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u/moonballer · 19 pointsr/running

80/20 Running by Matt Fitzgerald was where I learned the most about it. I've been using HR training for the last year and it's worked really, really well for me. Biggest thing is that it helped me learn that I don't need to set records on every training run, and running slower is actually better for long term performance.

u/i_am_just_curious_ · 6 pointsr/AdvancedRunning
u/jangle_bo_jingles · 4 pointsr/running

42 year old runner here - you're a ticking timebomb, and you're going to injure yourself if you dont slow down! - You're running way too fast, too often!!

And actually, all the science shows that running fast all the time is NOT going to make you faster. You should work towards making 80% of your running slow, and 20% fast. - I would recommend you have a look at this book - 80/20 Running



u/Thebrownster71 · 4 pointsr/C25K

Just be fully aware that running hills will add an extra stress, so it's even more vital that you slow your pace to account for that -- hill or no hill, at this stage you still want to be aiming for an easy, conversational pace.

Knowing that, if you fail a run it's definitely trying to do the repeat on a flat course, just to test without the added stress.

The way it changes your times is ... it really doesn't matter. Forget how fast you're going, just try to run as far as asked and keep it easy.

"I have a bad habit of trying to run rather than jog" ... This is very common — I definitely started that way, too — but it's the number one thing I'd encourage you to work on, especially if you struggled with week 3. What definitely helped me most was reading up on running, and seeing that pretty much all the major coaches devise plans that focus mostly on long, easy running, even for advanced racers. Check out something like 80/20 Running or pretty much any of Hal Higdon's plans and you'll see it repeated time and again.

For instance, even Hal's 5k plan for advanced runners mixes speed work with "easy runs" that he describes as "a comfortable pace, not worrying about speed or distance" where you "think minutes rather than miles."

"You should be able to carry on a conversation while you run; if not, you’re going too fast."

As a former sprinter, I'm pretty sure running fast is not the issue for you -- but running fast for a long time probably is. So work on the "longer time" stuff now and add that natural speed later.

u/acforbes · 3 pointsr/AdvancedRunning

Check out 80/20 running here:
80/20 Running: Run Stronger and Race Faster By Training Slower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IIVFAEY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1kiODb39SVX58

I follow the 80/20 Triathlon book for tri training. There are many more workout types beyond your list, a lot of great explanation behind each workout type and when to incorporate them.

u/YellowFJ · 2 pointsr/running

I second this. A good read on running and how running to fatigue every run affects you is 80/20 Running by Matt Fitzgerald. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IIVFAEY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2WaZCbHAB0KPA

u/sasubpar · 2 pointsr/running

It's a reference to this book by Matt Fitzgerald: http://www.amazon.com/80-20-Running-Stronger-Training-ebook/dp/B00IIVFAEY

u/ropepaelgen · 2 pointsr/running

There is a book actually which I'm guessing has plans in it, but the concept can be brought into just about anything. So formal or informal, there are options.

u/Tidus77 · 2 pointsr/running

>Which books, magazines or blogs have you found useful in your training? What about them did you find useful?

Currently reading 80/20 Running by Matt Fitzgerald and it's been a game changer for my approach to running and workouts. I used to always push myself, e.g. no pain no gain mantra, but Fitzgerald's approach has really helped me bump up my mileage, reduce a lot of heavy running I've had, and generally reduce the amount of pain/injuries I was getting. Not really sure what the running community as a whole thinks of this approach and/or Matt Fitzgerald, but I'm seeing problems go away that I had in the past as well as improvements in my form. Definitely worth a look.

Also been enjoying watching Adam Stevens on youtube. He's got some fun stuff, his own ideas about running, and lots of inspirational videos to get out there!

>Do you tend to follow training programs from books or do you find them online or write your own programs?

Currently just working on building up my weekly mileage to at least 50 mi/wk, but will probably start looking into more specific training programs after that. I guess you could say I'm going by feel at this point.

>Do you read books about running that aren't focused on training? If so, what was your favorite one?

Nope.

>Bonus media: Which running podcasts do you listen to, if any? Do you listen to them while running?

It's not a running podcast but I love listening to This American Life. It's so interesting, though I probably look lazy since sometimes it makes me laugh/smile haha.

Gear Purchases

Just got the new fall MEC Nitro Jacket for some cold fall runs. Seems like a pretty sweet softshell and looks nice to boot. I would have liked to wait for it to go on discount but wasn't sure my size would still be around, not to mention it probably wouldn't go down until the spring...

They still have last year's model on discount here: MEC Nitro Thermal Run Jacket if you're interested in it but note that it runs quite long in the torso. I'm 5'6'' and it was like a dress on me lol. The newer model has rectified the length issue.

Also got the Arc'teryx Actinium Sleeveless a couple of weeks ago and was running in it for warmer weather. Pretty happy with the air flow and large mesh holes for hot and humid summer runs.

Planning on buying some gloves/hats for this fall/winter soon too.

Stuff I've Tested

With the recent drop in temperatures, I've been running in my Rab Aeon T's and they do perfectly with slightly cooler than summer temperatures. Most of my runs (longer, slower paced) I feel as though I never sweat because of how quickly the fabric is wicking away the moisture. Very pleased.

Also been running in the Darn Tough Tab No Show Light Socks with the cooler temperatures. They're pretty comfy for sure, but definitely on the heavier/warmer side of things and seem to provide decent support/cushioning. I'm glad I didn't try these during the summer as I can tell they would have been too hot for my liking. I generally run with very very lightweight breathable synthetics that have minimal cushioning during warmer months.

u/zebano · 2 pointsr/running

So first off (the basics) I'm assuming you're using a HRM given that you know your max HR, if not please find one or use the conversation test when running (i.e. can I hold a conversation at this pace as that tends to correlate very well to Z1 and Z2 running.

The reason you can't find most information is because all the best stuff is in books. Specifically, I think the first few chapters of Faster Road Racing by Pfitzinger or [Hanson's Marathon Method by Humphries would help you (I'm sure there are other sources but I've read these two ... I believe Jack Daniels' book also covers this ground). One other way to find this is to actually search for cycling tips as they seem to be the crew that first adopted the HRM methods, though the general ideas tend to carry over pretty well to running.

All that being said I'm curious what particular benefits you really are shooting for, off the top of my head the size of the left ventricle increases, allowing you to pump a greater volume of blood, the size and density of mitochondria increase as well as training primarily type I muscle fibers.

I'm not sure why you would need HIIT since your goal is a bit nebulously stated. I'm kind of assuming you lift or do something similar based on those CDC guidelines and therefore HIIT is a bit redundant but some strides would certainly improve your running economy.

The general rule that seems to be emerging for endurance sports is 80% easy running (i.e. your HR target) and 20% intense work per week (strides, sprints, tempo runs, fartleks, hill sprints etc.). Look for Matt Fitzgerald's book at the library for more information.


Regarding the slow pace... you will improve quickly as a not overweight 22 year old with no other major health conditions. Just be patient. For more information about HR aerobic training taken to an extreme where we still see a lot of progress, google "Maffetone method".

u/[deleted] · 2 pointsr/triathlon

Run daily and increase distance running by 10% each week. These don't need to be incredibly hard runs, they should be in "zone 2" where you are 65-75% of your max heart rate, or be able to talk while your run. Your going to run slower than your used to. Once a week or so you can do "pace" or "tempo" training at a higher heart rate.

Here's a book that dives into it.
https://www.amazon.com/80-20-Running-Stronger-Training-ebook/dp/B00IIVFAEY

Here is Mark Allen (easily one of the best triathletes) story about building his aerobic base
http://duathlon.com/articles/1460/


u/Waksman · 1 pointr/running

If she's like me she's probably running too fast. This at some point makes it REALLY hard to add miles without getting burned out or injured. I recently read: http://www.amazon.com/80-20-Running-Stronger-Training-ebook/dp/B00IIVFAEY and he makes a very convincing argument that 80% of miles should be VERY easy.

u/hubo85 · 1 pointr/Swimming

Might be jumping into this discussion too late - but, I'm a 35 year old returning to swimming after a ~15 year hiatus. I've been running in the meantime, and have followed an '80/20' plan for running, meaning 80% of my running is at low intensity and 20% is at high intensity. This seems to be a pretty popular breakdown in the running community. I believe mainly influence by this book: https://www.amazon.com/80-20-Running-Stronger-Training-ebook/dp/B00IIVFAEY

I've been structuring my swims similarly. Is there any I should avoid this breakdown and do more high intensity swims? For both running and swimming I'm focused on distance as I figure my endurance will taper off less as I age than strength and sprinting.

u/anatomizethat · 1 pointr/running

You should read 80/20 Running by Matt Fitzgerald. It will help you understand the click bait articles (as it's probably the reason they were written).

u/IndividualCharacter · 1 pointr/trailrunning
u/thinking0utl0ud · 1 pointr/fitness30plus

Probably plantar facciatas.

How often do you run and workout? Have you put in and built up to the high intensity workouts? Check out 80/20 Running (link below). Basically you need to put in a lot of low impact time to have your feet and body adapt/ready for high intensity work. 80% slow runs 20% fast runs.

We're the same age, if I don't allow my body time to adapt I get injured. It a patience and consistency game the more we age.



https://www.amazon.com/80-20-Running-Stronger-Training-ebook/dp/B00IIVFAEY

u/HtotheZ · 1 pointr/running

Awesome you'll do great! The two books I used to get an idea of my custom training plan were https://www.amazon.com/80-20-Running-Stronger-Training-ebook/dp/B00IIVFAEY , Runner's World Run Less, Run Faster: Become a Faster, Stronger Runner with the Revolutionary 3-Run-a-Week Training Program https://www.amazon.com/dp/1609618025/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_tgoNybD4BWG66 and you could use the running chapters from Be Iron Fit: Time-Efficient Training Secrets For Ultimate Fitness https://www.amazon.com/dp/1599218577/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_AhoNybMDF2E54. I'd recommend reading and then blending to make a plan that works for you. I didn't agree with all the run fast tips so blended with others. Also try and get these in paperback as there are charts and such that are hard to read via ebook version.

Good luck!