Reddit reviews Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full Spectrum 180W LED Grow Light for Plant Growing

They're under this Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full Spectrum 180W LED Grow Light from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_wvS4DbB3R91HY) about 11 - 12 hours a day.

The soil is a 60/40 ish mix of Miracle Gro cactus mix and bonsai jack. I sifted a thin top layer to create a finer layer of dirt for the seedlings to root into initially.

Temperature fluctuates, but I would estimate that they're kept between 67-74 depending on the season.

I also grew them in the KORAM 10 Sets Seed Starter Trays (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LX0JBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HDS4Db30AQAJR), so I kept the soil moist pretty much constantly until recently when I've been able to neglect them more and let it dry out a bit. I admit my watering is kind of arbitrary and I've been hoping for the best since this was my first attempt at growing from seeds lol. I have another more detailed comment somewhere else that I could find if you need more info 😊

I followed /u/spkmoneky's lid build and it's been phenomenal.

I bought this light: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And this muffin fan:
https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-Cooling-Ventilation-Projects/dp/B009OWRMZ6/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=ac+infinity+muffin+fan&qid=1558105478&s=lawn-garden&sr=8-2

And followed this write up: https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceBuckets/comments/8ktr9b/my_ufo_bucket_lid_installation_tips_instructions/

Fits like a dream and works wonderfully!

I added a speed controller for better noise control and it's been spectacular: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00809BQZG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So I'm gonna be that guy and tell you the answer you don't want to hear which is that you're not likely to be able to achieve what you're trying to do in the location you want without some major drawbacks.

Your seeds aren't thriving because they're not getting enough light. You can tell because your sprouts are so leggy (i.e. tall and thin with few/no leaves). When plants first sprout, they come pre-packaged with leaves that are part of the seed that expand as the plant absorbs water and are what collect the initial light energy which the seedling will then use to construct its own true leaves. If the starter leaves are not receiving enough energy, the plant will delay growing new leaves and instead try to grow taller so that those leaves get better light exposure. That's what causes leggy plants, which bring a host of annoying problems, hence why its usually easier to start fresh and make sure they get light from the get-go. Seeds which are getting enough light will produce very little in terms of stem height but will instead use that energy to start producing more leaves right away. Here's a shot of some lettuce (on the right) with zero legginess and bell pepper seedlings sprouted with minimal legginess. Note that the bell pepper seedlings on the left could probably use yet more light.

Artificial lights put out nowhere near as much as natural sunlight unless you get into the really high caliber stuff. To give you an idea on artificial lighting requirements, here's what's lighting part of my herb garden. That fixture has four 24 watt fluorescent bulbs, coupled with angled reflectors above them to maximize the amount of light hitting the plant. If you're interested, here is that light fixture on Amazon. I recommend this regularly to anyone trying to grow using artificial light. Lux output (a measurement of the amount of light per sq ft) from that is ~15,000 lux at an appropriate distance from the plant, which is about what these herbs need to grow. A single 15 watt bulb like yours probably gets into the 3,000 - 5,000 lux range. You also seem to have a cover over the light, which probably reduces the output as well. Another thing to note is you want your light as close as possible to your plants. They shouldn't be touching it, but they should be (for flourescents at least) maybe a few inches from it. Light saturation decreases rapidly with distance, so the further they are, the less oomph they're getting from it. Your lower hanging plants are getting less light for sure.

Keep in mind that different types of plants have different lighting requirements. Leafy plants light herbs and lettuces can sustain themselves off of something like I showed just fine. However anything that produces a fruit or vegetable will need even more light. Like three or four times as much light as the fixture I showed earlier.

Back in the day most people used something like this, a high pressure sodium light, for their indoor fruits/veggies. This one puts out about 45,000 lux. Think like football stadium lights. These things get painfully bright and also get very hot, plus they require a large ballast (power source) to run. You want your plants at least 2 ft from these otherwise they'll burn. Regardless, it's definitely not something you'd want under your sink, since you wouldn't be able to be in the same room when it was on or else you'd be blinded.

The more recent alternative in artificial light is LED lights. These things put out way less lux, but the light they do put out is concentrated on very specific wavelengths which are ideal for plants. I'm using this one to grow tomatoes and bell peppers, and one light is about enough for one, maybe two plants. They don't get hot at all, but their light output is still uncomfortably bright and the color is just dreadful. Imagine a pink so searing that it makes your head hurt. Here's a picture of some bell peppers, taken from the relative shade under the canopy. Definitely not something you want in your kitchen for the same reason as the HPS: you wouldn't want to be in the room when it's turned on. I grow the bell peppers in a light-opaque grow tent and the tomatoes in a closet I converted for that purpose.

My recommendation: forget about the veggies for now. You're not going to get them to grow without a light source which will be impractical under the sink. Stick with herbs, which work just fine under fluorescent light. Up your light output by getting a higher output light fixture. Rearrange how they hang so that all four of your planters are much closer to the light. And start from scratch once you've done so. You might potential save that batch if you got a new light right away, but they'll have gotten a leggy start, so they'll always be slightly deformed.

Positronics Auto Express...a little over an ounce. Nice herbal scent. Bought from Sensible Seeds.

Happy Frog Potting Soil 70% Fafard Perlite 30%...get them BOTH at True Value Hardware store for less than twenty bucks. Order online, pick up at the store.

Did not use any medial light strips. DID use Low Stress Training.

Used "The UFO That EVERYBODY Has."
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00FGFW0XO&linkCode=as2&tag=spacbuck-20&linkId=CCK4BF7UHRYLUSOH

But watch it, keep an eye on it, this is OFTEN on sale.

Used Modified Lucas feed starting one month in...this means a teaspoon of Maxibloom per feeding.

Grew in the basement, and my casa is big enough that I didn't need a carbon filter...kept an ona block outside the door, but I don't know if I even needed that.

This was a nice plant. Well behaved, quiet, low maintenance. Kinda like a Golden Lab without the blonde hairs.

Such a nice plant that I even took it for an occasional walk.

Tin

Honestly I thought the same thing, but it was a lot easier than I thought. Without having to wire anything, it was all pretty common handiwork with a drill or a Dremel saw. It's a GardenMate 8 Gal grow bag

Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073NJYCFJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1


I used an Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full Spectrum 180W LED Grow Light

Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Fans:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C82SYZ0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here’s my light set up

https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO


https://www.amazon.com/lights-LEDMO-Upgraded-Waterproof-300LEDs/dp/B01FFWQEPW

Using this thing.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_cr_ryp_prd_ttl_sol_0

No problems with it so far! Just flipped the fan around so it works as an outtake instead of intake and good to go.

>Is this the older 5mp RPi camera? Or the newer 8mp one?

This is the new v2 8mp camera. So far, it is a giant POS. Terrible focus.

>How long is this video capturing?

This video covers roughly 12hrs with 6hrs of darkness removed

>What lights are doing the heavy work of nourishing the plant?\

Primary grow light is an [Apollo 180w UFO] with [Warm White LEDs].

>what language is the code?

Simple Python script I found [here]

>Are you just cron-jobing the image capture, and stitching the photos together by hand? Or is the gif/time lapse created automatically?

With my first setup, I was using ffmpeg to capture with a cronjob then combining them in Adobe After Effects. Now, I'm using the Python script to automatically capture ever 2min to a network share. From there, I combine it with After Effects and convert to GIF with photoshop which is then uploaded to Imgur.

I'm sure there is a way to automate the workflow but I kinda like doing the edits.

How about this one?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FGFW0XO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1418191620&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40#immersive-view_1418191663041

For my spacebucket I use this light Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full Spectrum 180W LED Grow Light for Plant Growing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_tisQCbW3PBARR

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077YK18TP/ref=twister_B07JVPSVD9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 thats the one I used in the spacebucket. but if I could do it again. I may have gone with the apollo one https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=180w+led+grow+light&qid=1556217120&s=gateway&sr=8-3

My new mini tent I got a 300w Marshydro eco now though.

I'm using the cheap UFO LED that can be had from Amazon (usually for around $100 US).

https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO

I'm using the Apollo. It's awesome. I was originally going to go CFL, but after seeing everyone's grows with LED I was convinced.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NL9UZA2/


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FGFW0XO/


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MZ3JOM1/

I use 138w for Veg, 180w for Veg and Flower, and 270w for Flower.

Well, I figured those who planted directly in bucket just remove the spacers to get to the plant for trimming/LST/etc? I got my 3 gallon pot, was just wondering what's the easiest way to do this as the 3 gallon pot is gonna leave some fingers pinched getting that guy out (was thinking about drilling holes in the side and leaving some rope tied onto it so I can just lift it out by the rope).

I'm using this 180w UFO here (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and figured with that much punch, some light escaping wouldn't be a big deal. If it starts to stunt growth in flowering, I'll tape it up but it's a nice night light for the dining room right now. Unless you think it'll cause problems already?

I've been using this in a 5gal bucket and growth has been amazing:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

full build with plant photos, keep in mind I'm only just over 4 weeks in:

https://imgur.com/a/cQEwUEI

Here is the link from Amazon

Tl:Dr 104 bucks

Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full Spectrum 180W LED Grow Light for Plant Growing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Jbw9BbQC8XC32

Yeah I had this light too close for a little too long. Raised it for the last couple of weeks. Now I know for the next grow!

Smell was stronger than I expected, smelled great though. Seemed to have a citrus smell too it while trimming.

Here’s my LED recommendation as for the light strips

Thanks for asking! The plant shown in the imgur album has a 180W (not sure it's actually putting that much out) UFO light, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have that light and it is not enough to grow a plant under. Check out /r/spacebuckets for more bucket/small grow info on something the size of a mini fridge. This or This will grow plants in a small space, I've grown under both.

Would this be enough light for the whole bucket? http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1454074121&sr=1-1&keywords=led+ufo

Hey, sorry edited my first post a couple times as I was going down each item and realizing I can't buy it.



http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00RXAJ466?keywords=UFO%20light&qid=1449809523&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1


http://www.amazon.ca/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_56?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1449809635&sr=1-56&keywords=Grow+Light

Or what are the differences between these 2 lights? Both 180W but an $80 difference.

Gotta love no reviews on Canadian shit.

well I recently bought 2 of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421426521&sr=8-1&keywords=led+ufo

As for why I posted is I just got an email from the site that I posted above that they are having a sale on a lot of LED's. Figured that they are probably no good, but thought I'd ask and post for others. Maybe someone can find something useful on there. :)

I have five of this type 4100K, mine are all 300W equivalent. (considering getting one more) https://www.1000bulbs.com/category/300-watt-equal-compact-fluorescents-4100K/

and one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_2?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1418429616&sr=1-2&keywords=apollo+led

Apollo 180W UFO LED

Info: Samsquanch auto from Mephesto 5 gal smart pot with ocean forest. Popped on New Year’s Day. Last two watering have been ph’d water at 6.8 exactly. Previous watering before that included less than a quarter strength of fox farms big bloom and a 1/4tsp of calmag that is 2-0-0 all ph’d at 6.8 with ph down.

For water I’ve been using both purchased gallons of spring water or tap water which is fairly alkaline at 8.0ph. Usually takes over 15 drops of ph down in a gallon of water to adjust. Does that sound about right? Worried the ph down is affecting the plant.

The top of the plant is showing a different deficiency, which from what I can tell is possibly manganese (the random brown splotches on newer leaves). The lower leaves were browning from the edges, but that has since stopped.

Edit: this is my cob led from amazon. light Says 800 Watts, but I don’t believe it’s even 300 true watts. There is also a 180 watt ufo led in there but not directly over the plant. UFO Light

On the spacebuckets website someone recommends using the following

and I went back to amazon and searched for one with white LEDs. I found only this one

Do you have one that you could recommend?

from spacebuckets website

I prefer to DIY my own lights, but it can be slightly more costly if you don't already have tools and material laying around.

LED UFO from amazon. gg&wp

something like this, but in your local Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO

Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

One of these? :P
http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1416401403&sr=1-1&keywords=180w+led+grow+light

If so, how's it work? I've been considering buying one, but I'm leaning towards the 300W rectangle light by Apollo, as it's only $40 more.

Thanks for the reply. Given the draw number you're referring to, two of these (one over each plant):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO

Would provide 109 watts (draw) per unit, or 218 total. Does combining lights this way achieve the same goal?

This one?

If so the t5 has more power and should for sure be the primary light. I would use them both top mounted and as low to canopy as possible.

I would look into upgrading your lights. If you want to go the LED route, I would look into getting a ufo grow light like this one.

If you don't want to drop the money on an LED grow light, you can always go the CFL route. There are numerous builds on here that you can pull inspiration from.

I think that will work, I might spend a little more for a this one here for about 30% more power/draw but what you have chosen will also work.

Hi everyone, here is an update on my first ever grow. So far my plant hasn't been as vigirous as I would have liked, I would love to hear what you guys think. Below is all the information on my setup.

Light: 180W Apollo ufo

Side Lighting: None

Growing Medium: scotts osmocote plus organics vegetable and herb mix mixed with 1/3 perlite

Temps: 21-24C (70-75f)

Humidity: 35-55%

Distance from top of plant to light: 30cm (12 inches)

Water ph: 6

Runnoff ph: 5.5

Nutrients: None (3 months of feed was advertised in the soil I used)

I fim'ed roughly 7 days ago. Is that supposed to dramatically change how the plant grows? It seems as though the plant is back to growing normally just with slightly shorter leaves on the top two nodes. I also lst'ed last week by bending over the main stalk. Finding a place to wrap the plant wire around without blocking nodes was kind of hard as it is very short and bushy.

Based on the pictures and information do you guys have any recommendation to increase the rate of growth? Also how should I be preparing her for flowering?

Unknown about the wall. Probably less than that. The 180 UFO I have is the Apollo. I forgot to mention I also have 1 strip of LEDs wrapped around the walls.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_e75dAbSP24Y96

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_iGGyDbMT56X1P

here is a cheaper link direct from manufacturers shop on amazon.

I recently bought this one http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL60LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00FGFW0XO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407520148&sr=8-1&keywords=apollo+led+180 and put some CFL's down low for complete coverage and so far so good!

Well a gift card u just scratch off and put in the code.. I could give scratch it off and give you the code myself.. But I mean I'm sorry I don't mean to insult.. I'm just not very patient lol.. And have like no experience with reddit either..
Now I came across this fairly cheap LED light... Will this work?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FGFW0XO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1412955760&sr=8-1#

And also I heard the wattage per sq foot is different depending on what kind of light.. Is that true? And it doesn't matter how many plants, just sq ft? And how far away do I out them from the plant?
And what do u mean by extraction and a filter exactly?

If that LED is this model then it's 109 watts and definitely not adequate for two plants. Barely even for one plant. Getting a better quality light would be a very good idea.