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u/Tuskmaster88 · 10 pointsr/creepy

[Blind Man's Bluff] (https://www.amazon.ca/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/dp/1610393589) by Sherry Sontag covers (among other things) the loss of USS Scorpion, including the original search for the lost sub and the investigation into its loss.

u/papafrog · 8 pointsr/newtothenavy
u/mwatwe01 · 6 pointsr/AskAnAmerican

Speaking only for my specialty, Blind Man's Bluff is an excellent book.

It focuses on the Cold War, but you could easily apply it to whatever country you consider to be a threat to the U.S. today.

u/whibbler · 5 pointsr/IAmA

Excepting any authors here, two classic books to recommend are Blind Man's Bluff (https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/dp/1610393589/) and, for the serious geeks, Cold War Submarines (https://www.amazon.com/Cold-War-Submarines-Construction-1945-2001/dp/1574885308/).

I don't normally read any fiction but I just read a brand new book called Arctic Gambit by Larry Bond and Chris Carlson (https://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Gambit-Jerry-Mitchell-Novel/dp/0765334925/) and I very much enjoyed it. Possibly a future classic.

u/ididnotdoitever · 4 pointsr/WarshipPorn

Dude, do yourself a favor and pick up a copy of this book. One of the best reads ever.

https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/dp/1610393589

u/bbsittrr · 4 pointsr/HomeNetworking

>The cable isn't armoured so in theory someone could easily cut it and plug in a laptop to gain access to the house network for nefarious purposes.

Common things are common. It would be much more likely that someone would yank your cable out and take it to sell as scrap.

If there was an economic reason for you to have an armored guarded cable, you'd be able to afford an armored guarded cable.

It's much more likely someone will break into your home and steal stuff than someone would "tap into" an outdoor ethernet cable.

Incidentally, lightning hitting that cable, or near it, and destroying everything on your network is also much more likely than the Mission: Impossible team doing a cable tap.

The US Navy tapped into Soviet communications cables. It took AT&T and a billion dollar nuclear sub:

https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/dp/1610393589

Again, if you have super valuable data, an outdoor cable is not your first concern.

u/Dementat_Deus · 3 pointsr/nottheonion

>I'd still have some sort of low range ping to detect objects within like 20 feet.

The Los Angeles class subs (of which the USS San Francisco is a part of) is 362 ft long, 33 ft in diameter, displaces 6,900 tonnes, and has an official speed of 20 knots (which equals 33.8 ft per second). At that size and speed, they would need a couple thousand feet of detection range just to start to react, and a couple thousand more to actually avoid a collision. Any active sonar that would give a usable return at that distance is also powerful enough to be detected tens of miles away and thus give away the subs position.

>If there is an enemy sub 20 feet away...

If any sub is 20 feet away and it hasn't been heard on passive sonar then it is because it is dead in the water and a collision is less than 1 second away.

>What's the point of being a war sub that can't see nearby giant objects?

Depends on the type of sub. Missile boats basically just go park off someones coast and wait until they receive orders to launch their missiles towards preprogramed coordinates without ever seeing the target. Attack boats (like the San Fran) have a variety of rolls but generally speaking are not looking for silent terrain. Typically they are looking for other vessels, and they do that by listening for the sounds of machinery. Surface ships are noisy as fuck, and don't require any effort to track passively, but even really quiet subs can be tracked by a well trained passive sonar crew. Coastal defense boats are basically the same as attack boats, except they are smaller and have a more limited range. There are a few other types of subs, but the only type I can think of that might even remotely do what you suggest is sonar mapping subs, but those are not combat vessels and are typically operated by civilians.

I'm not really certain what else you think there would really be to "see". Terrain isn't normally a big problem in the ocean. It's just certain locations that should be indicated on depth charts that you would need to limit operating depth to stay safe and collision free. Else-wise, the ocean is pretty empty, and subs are surfaced when pulling into/out of harbor.

If you want to get a decent idea of what subs do, and how they operate, read the book Blind Mans Bluff. It's probably the most accurate non-classified accounting you will find. Also watch the movie Down Periscope. It's a comedy, and takes some Hollywood liberties, but gives a fair representation when it comes to looking around with sonar.

u/toufu_lover · 3 pointsr/singapore

This! Submarines are really underrated tools of surveillance and intelligence. Just look up the USS Parche.

9 Presidential Unit Citations, and it's records are still sealed til this day. Also, shoutout to Blind Man's Bluff if you want to know more about the hush side of submarines!

u/KapitanKurt · 3 pointsr/WarshipPorn

Nicely done /u/whibbler. Do you know if Parche replaced Halibut vis-a-vis Blinds Man's Bluff and Operation Ivy Bells? I am curious how that timeline all fits together.

u/DLS3141 · 3 pointsr/AskEngineers

Anything by Henry Petroski

Skunk Works by Ben Rich Military aircraft aren't really developed this way anymore, but the stories are amazing.

Blind Man's Bluff

u/grendelt · 3 pointsr/WarshipPorn

That sounds cool. Definitely gonna grab a copy.

Here's the Amazon link to "Blind Man's Bluff" for those that are interested in it.

u/John_Q_Deist · 1 pointr/worldnews

Absolutely. I would direct you to this for a great history of US and Russian submarine operations. It also discusses the current state of the Russian (and US) submarine fleet. It's a very accurate and interesting resource.

u/shortbaldman · 1 pointr/worldpolitics

to new depths.

Nope. US subs already did that 30-odd years ago.

https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/dp/1610393589

u/nvkylebrown · 1 pointr/worldnews

It's been done before, and probably many/most/all cables are monitored by someone.

For what it's worth, Blind Man's Bluff includes the story of the US tapping an underwater cable between Kamchatka and Vladivostok. The tap was found and is now on display in Moscow. Picture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells