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u/OmNomChompskey · 6 pointsr/Art

Check out [Bargue's Drawing Course] (http://www.amazon.com/Charles-Bargue-Jean-L%C3%A9on-G%C3%A9r%C3%B4me-Ackerman/dp/2867702038) . The original course was put together by Charles Bargue and Jean Leon Gerome in the 19th century intended for training students at french academies / decorative arts schools. The book consists of many plates of lithographs made after famous greek/roman sculpture and drawings by various masters.

It teaches the artist how to begin a drawing such as this one by blocking in simple shapes and gradually refining those shapes, eventually into light and dark. The final drawings can be quite complex.

There is zero concern with perspective in this approach, which is entirely devoted to developing the artist's ability to draw from his or her visual field. Objects are not seen as 3 dimensional, but as a collection of 2 dimensional shapes that the artist must reproduce. The course is also concerned with instilling s classical taste in the student. It is also a great prelude to drawing a physical cast.

u/TheeSweeney · 4 pointsr/Documentaries

If anyone is curious about the drawing book at 37:35, it's called Cours de Dessin (Drawing Course) by Charles Bargue

Edit: I got that book for Christmas after putting it on my Amazon Wishlist. It's fascinating!

u/thebestwes · 3 pointsr/IWantToLearn

Oh, I forgot! If you're interested in drawing people, get a copy of Bridgeman's Guide to Drawing from Life, and any other Bridgeman books you can get your hands on. He draws in a way that's very exaggerated and bizarre looking, but it's to emphasize subtleties that you wouldn't otherwise know to look for. Don't be fooled, he's a master at depicting the human figure in all its subtle glory. Definitely grab a copy; it's one of the few books it's worth dropping some money on as a beginner. Check around on ebay etc. or see if you can find a PDF somewhere (I think it's in the public domain). If you really want to hit your life drawing skills hard, pick up The Charles Bargue Drawing Course. It's co-authored by Gerome, and is the method that Van Gogh used to teach himself art. It's not much fun, though, and a bit difficult to do without direction, so you may want to take a year or two and see how serious you want to get about things.

EDIT: Also, be very selective with what you read and look at. There's a LOT of shitty art out there, and just because it's published doesn't mean it's good. Teach yourself to look for good art, and art that you want to emulate. Something like this may look good on its own, but it's not very proficient, which becomes noticeable when you compare it to this piece by my instructor. Don't be fooled, the fact that you're a beginner doesn't mean you shouldn't be selective about who you take advice from. Obviously hardcore expressive realism may not be your game, but find what you like, and then figure out what is the best stuff in that area and look at it as much as you can.

u/sareteni · 3 pointsr/homestuck

In the meantime, draw everything. Everything. EVERYTHING.

Keep a sketch book with you always! Draw people waiting for the bus, cars parked outside, city blocks, landscapes, trees, ideas, concepts, doodles, nonsense.

Take pictures of things and use them for reference. Constantly! Can't figure out how an arm looks like in a certain pose, get someone to pose the same way and take a shot with your phone. Its not "cheating" and most artists worth their salt will stare at you like you're insane if you told them to do a large scale project with no live or photo references.

Go to figure drawing meetups. There's usually some at art schools or in any big city. You will be terrible at first but drawing people is a good way to train your eye.

Copy your favorite artist. Not just draw from, but try to copy a whole piece of art, from start to finish, line for line, as closely as possible. Do this a lot! It will help you understand why they put this thing there, and put that thing here, and drew that thing like this.

Its the same reason musicians practice other people's work before they start composing their own!

Figure out who their influence are, and do the same thing with them.

If you're looking for books to get you started, here are some good ones.

u/fishpuddle · 2 pointsr/learnart

Which artists would you say you like most? Would you ever like to create artwork in a similar fashion?

I think you dodged a bullet by not getting into the design college. I know plenty of recent graduates who found it to be a waste of time and money, not to mention not finding any decent work.

If you can afford it, I would highly suggest buying the Drawing Course by Charles Bargue and Jean-Léon Gérôme. It will give you great advances in drawing skills that you can apply to any sort of drawing. You could easily draw one plate once per day, or even week.

At the very least, you could devote 15 minutes per day, just sketching whatever catches your fancy. You got a new puppy, sketch him! Also, don't feel like you have to share your sketchbook with anyone. I found that by being very particular about who I show my sketches to, I can be more free to make necessary mistakes without worrying about scrutiny. Critiques are definitely overrated, especially if you can see what mistakes you've made. I know if what I drew was crappy, I don't need others to tell me.

Remember that you will have days where you draw really well and days where you draw like complete crap. You did a drawing, that's all that matters. The more practice you get, the better you'll be. Even artists who've been selling art for decades still need to practice often to keep their skills sharp.

A side note: Artwork that has agriculture and livestock as the subject tend to sell really well in certain markets. So if that's something that interests you, it may prove lucrative!

u/jefftalbot · 2 pointsr/learnart

This looks like it was a study done following the methods laid out in the Charles Bargue Drawing Course.
Here's the book on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Charles-Bargue-Drawing-Gerald-Ackerman/dp/2867702038

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I'm not sure of the exact terminology, but you'd basically do a simple lay-in (like a simplified version of the body), heavily measured from your reference. Then you go in and add or remove shapes making the forms more complex.
The process would be similar to this but on a larger scale: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0319/2345/files/bargue_2_large.jpg?589

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Hope that helps.

u/AAARRN · 2 pointsr/learnart

Wow thanks for the answer. I'm amazed that I could get such advice from a simple post.

The stick approach is something I discovered looking at Matisse
I was always losing myself in details and never focusing on the whole. This helped immensely in my process. I also noticed a lot of people tackle this process with a projector and rendering it bit by bit. But I didn't feel this would learn me that much. I treated the enormous paper as a sketchbook page that needs enlarged tools to do so. Now it's very rewarding experience that I can draw portraits from people posing for me.

Interesting you write about adding and subtracting mass. I recently graduated in architecture but to learn to draw portrait I had to turn off all that spatial/constructional/sculptural thinking from model making to really see values, contours and negative space. I hope by adding it back in it will help me in future projects.

Hair is something where I have a real issue with. I always start off trying do it very detailed to then realise it sucks, erase it and go roughly about it with some tones. A lot of books and teachers say that the haircut is an extension of the face but it doesn't seem to stick with me. Maybe seeing it as shapes will help me.

The background I'm also not sold one entirely. I wanted something else but eventually defaulted to the strategy of adding a dark tone next to a light (hair).

Thanks for again for the advice. It always helps to get some kind words to keep going. For practising proportions I was interested in the Bargue excercises. But I don't know if it is really helpful to copy away for 200 pages.

u/[deleted] · 2 pointsr/pics

I just saw your pic on imgur and clicked into the reddit comments (I'm usually a not-logged-in-silent-lurker ;) Not too shabby! I was going to remain silent, per usual, but I'm also a classical painter (well neo-classical, I guess?) and the way you're describing wanting to start drawing is actually the way I draw. The craziest and most helpful advice I can think to tell you is to get blending paper stumps, and NEVER THROW THEM AWAY. The nastier they are, the better. I've had the same ones since college. Use them instead of trying to force pencils to do light shading. Basically you'll be shading with residue from all of your other drawings.

oh, and get a copy of this http://www.amazon.com/Charles-Bargue-Jean-L%C3%83%C2%A9-G%C3%83%C2%A9r%C3%83me-Ackerman/dp/2867702038/ref=dp_ob_title_bk post haste

and good luck :)

u/Rawdays · 2 pointsr/Art

This is also a really great book, you can download a PDF too :)

u/drymedia · 1 pointr/learnart

It is helpful to make you more accurate. However most people dont spend the correct amount of time on them. They are suppose to take hours and hours and hours of refinement making them super accurate. The project book is here but it has slowly gotten more and more expensive it seems. or maybe it was always this expensive its just shocking me for the second time i look at it lol.
http://www.amazon.com/Charles-Bargue-Jean-L%C3%A9on-G%C3%A9r%C3%B4me-Ackerman/dp/2867702038

u/bobthefish · 1 pointr/ArtCrit