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6 Reddit comments about Church of Spies: The Pope’s Secret War Against Hitler:

u/DionysiusExiguus · 11 pointsr/Christianity

If anyone is interested in this topic, I have to suggest two books:

Rabbi David Dalin's The Myth of Hitler's Pope: Pope Pius XII and His Secret War Against Nazi Germany

Mark Riebling, Church of Spies: The Pope's Secret War Against Hitler.

u/GregoireDeNarek · 8 pointsr/Christianity

I'd check out Rabbi David Dalin's The Myth of Hitler's Pope as well as Mark Riebling's Church of Spies. Also the Encyclical Mit Brennender Sorge.

u/Lou_Pockets · 2 pointsr/benshapiro

> (the church aided Hitler and he has wide support among the Christian German population

This is incorrect. He had support among many protestant denominations but not Catholics, and the pope most certainly did NOT support Hitler ( https://eppc.org/events/the-myth-of-hitlers-pope/ )

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Also, the Church of Spies is a good read on how the Catholic Church actively worked to undermine the Nazis.

I won't deny that Anti-semitism existed in Christian societies throughout history, but you are cherry-picking examples out of 2000 years of co-existence. I could just as easily argue the opposite by stating that more Jews were murdered in the secularized 20th century than in the previous few centuries combined. The historical persecution of the Jewish people transcend simple narratives about one religion being more welcoming than others.

Ben's point about Judeo-Christian values is that they are a combination of faith and reason. If you have faith without reason, you get a repressive theocracy like Iran. If you have reason without faith, you get Mao's Communist China and millions of citizens dead.

> The whole concept of judeo christian values seem to be made to intentionally exclude Muslim's

Not sure what the basis of this claim is, but I'd like to read your reasoning. It's also worth noting that both Judaism and Christianity pre-date Islam, so it's a bit odd to argue that their tenets were somehow purposefully crafted to exclude Muslims.

u/philliplennon · 2 pointsr/Christianity
u/Veritas-VosLiberabit · 1 pointr/Christianity

The historian Derek Hastings argues that in 1923 the Nazi Party had heavily Catholic roots, but with the reconstitution in 1925, the Party shifted to become anti-Catholic and anti-Christian. The Bible was added to the banned books list.

>Every German soldier's belt buckle still said Gott Mit Uns

And in the USA our dollar bills say "In God We Trust."

>The pope refused to speak out against the extermination of Jews, gypsies and homosexuals in gas chambers, even when he had compelling evidence that it was happening.

The Pope was a major source of covert intelligence for the allies, telling them about impending military movements and yes, the Holocaust. He authorized an assassination attempt on Hitler's life (https://www.amazon.com/Church-Spies-Pope%C2%92s-Secret-Against/dp/0465022294)

The Vatican was never safe until it was liberated by the allies.

u/luvintheride · 1 pointr/DebateReligion

Dude, you have a terribly twisted view of history and Chrisitianty. Here are a few books to start with: