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4 Reddit comments about Countercoup: The Struggle for the Control of Iran:

u/bbmm · 32 pointsr/europe

> The USSR invades Afghanistan, ...

Which the US strategy guy at the time saw as his success: http://dgibbs.faculty.arizona.edu/brzezinski_interview

> The people of Iran revolt against a US backed dictator...

Not just backed, pretty much installed. The CIA guy in charge wrote a book about it: https://www.amazon.com/Countercoup-Struggle-Control-Kermit-Roosevelt/dp/0070535906

> Is there any country in the middle east where US actions resulted in good?

Dunno about good, but in terms of not being destroyed completely, maybe Saudi Arabia and Israel?

u/Ro500 · 19 pointsr/ColorizedHistory

He wrote a book that reads like his own personal spy thriller about it. Countercoup

u/Aerioch · 1 pointr/worldnews

How about you read Kermit's own words ... and begin your real education.

Countercoup: The Struggle for the Control of Iran

Author: Kermit Roosevelt

http://www.amazon.com/Countercoup-Struggle-Control-Kermit-Roosevelt/dp/0070535906

u/carrierfive · 1 pointr/AmericanPolitics

Sorry the below is so long, but you might want to actually read and ponder this rather than do absurd smears like calling me "comrade."

I'm guessing that's text from a Wikipedia link, a site laden with spin and now used by many to wage propaganda wars. (Remember, our government admits that we wage propaganda campaigns on the Internet and in social media.)

Let's add some other things into that that your post omits.

  • The "diplomat" in question, Nuland, admits the US poured billions into Ukraine. Supposedly that was to "promote democracy" but that is a standard euphemism for "funding dissidents" and giving money to pro-US groups -- a standard tactic when we fund so-called "colored revolutions."

  • US diplomats/politicians like John McCain and Nuland passed out cookies to "protesters" and directly encouraged rebellion against the elected government.

  • The violent revolt was started by supposedly the Ukrainian police shooting at protesters, however EU diplomats questioned that story clearly thinking it was bogus. It's worth noting in other "colored revolutions" the US has used violence like that to spark open revolts.

  • The new puppet regime that Nuland had installed immediately moved to outlaw the use of Russian as a language. Ukraine is the original site of the ancient Russian culture 900 years ago and having literally been part of Russia for many centuries this means the vast majority of its people speak Russian. Over 1/2 of Ukrainian households speak Russian at home, and the most popular TV shows are Russian. Thus, the eastern -- most Russian -- areas revolting should not be completely surprising. The new neo-fascist regime we installed then wisely backed off outlawing the Russian language.

  • Russia sent that aid convoy into Ukraine after Ukraine reneged on a deal to allow it through, and after that convoy was inspected by int'l observers to ensure it had no weapons in it. It's pretty clear Russia has no problems sending weapons into Ukraine and doesn't need to use an aid convoy to do that.

    But of course, little details like that which shows our skulduggery are omitted from the list of events you cite above. Lies by omission (see the Zinn quote above).

    I'd recommend reading the book by Kermit Roosevelt (yes, directly related to those Roosevelts) Countercoup: The Struggle for the Control of Iran about the way we overthrew the democratic Iranian gov't in 1953. That book is a classic.

    Roosevelt details a lot of the dirty tricks used in our "colored revolutions" -- some still used today. My favorite of our Iranian skulduggery was in paying Iranian women to protest. The men were too expensive for us to buy, since we would have to pay them more than they would earn at their normal jobs. So the US instead "paid" Iranian women to protest and we "paid" them with new pots and pans! But the sight of Iranian women marching down the street "protesting" and gently banging their new pots and pans together deeply offended Iranian males in that conservative Muslim culture -- sheer evil genius!

    Of course, after we overthrew the democratic Iranian government and installed a brutal, torturing dictator, things did not turn out so well when the Iranian people overthrew our puppet dictator in 1979 -- but that's another story.

    Back to Ukraine, it really doesn't matter what happened in Ukraine. The Russians will never allow Ukraine to become part of NATO -- period.

    The Russians see a NATO-member Ukraine as literally an existential threat. Think of the meaning of that word, as I mean it literally.

    No matter what you or I want, no matter what the US government wants, or for that matter, no matter what the Ukrainians want, Russia will simply not allow Ukraine to have a government hostile to Russia -- they'll literally wage nuclear war before they allow that to happen. That's not my opinion, that's the opinion of most US experts on Russia. (We would feel the same way about Canada.)

    Right now, we should be thankful Russia has only backed the rebels in eastern Ukraine with weapons and minimal direct assistance by the Russian military.

    As Putin pointed out as a simple matter of fact when we were falsely claiming a "Russian invasion" of Ukraine, Russia could take over the entire country in a couple of weeks if it wanted to.

    > "The greatest crime since World War II has been U.S. foreign policy." -- Ramsey Clark, former U.S. Attorney General.