Reddit reviews Dangerous Grains: Why Gluten Cereal Grains May Be Hazardous To Your Health

Dude if you want to make real money, write books that simply tell people that eating gluten is something they shouldn't eat. Even if they don't have any conditions preventing them from doing so.

http://www.amazon.com/Grain-Brain-Surprising-Sugar--Your-Killers/dp/031623480X

http://www.amazon.com/Wheat-Belly-Lose-Weight-Health/dp/1609614798

http://www.amazon.com/The-Paleo-Diet-Healthy-Designed/dp/0470913029

http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Athletes-Nutritional-Performance/dp/160961917X

http://www.amazon.com/Gluten-Connection-Sensitivity-Sabotaging-Control/dp/1594863873

http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Grains-Gluten-Cereal-Hazardous/dp/1583331298

http://www.amazon.com/Healthier-Without-Wheat-Understanding-Intolerance/dp/0976853795

http://www.amazon.com/Going-Against-Grain-Reducing-Revitalize/dp/0658017225

You're not alone. This may interest you though, as it helps explain why we shouldn't be eating gluten-based grains anyway given the number it does on our liver, pancreas, intestinal-tract, and thyroid. There's strong evidence to suggest that the grain-centric diets common in western world countries are largely to blame for a number of chronic illnesses like Celiac disease.

So you're saying that since we know very little about what early Paleolithic man ate (~2.5 million years ago up until 10,000), and despite the fact that we know our brains grew and stomachs shrank specifically because of meat consumption, we should eat vegan.

And that (RE: #3) because our day-to-day lives look very little like (in a literal sense) a hunter-gatherers life, we ought not eat meat? We may not run around and hunt our food, but how many of us run around all day, to this job or that, working overtime, etc. If anything, I'd think it would make more sense to streamline your foods for maximum efficiency - i.e., eat the foods that are most nutritious, which certainly includes a hefty amount of vegetables, but also includes a significant (dietarily) amount of high-quality meat product whose bioavailability or healthy fats and complete proteins (nevermind micronutrient breakdown) is virtually unmatched. That would only make sense in this over-worked and un-rested era.

(By the way, Paleo is all about quality. Only grass-fed/pastured animals, preferably that includes a hefty dose of the nutrient dense organ meat, as well as a short-but-intense exercise plan that would very much mimic that of a hunter-gatherer.)

RE: #4 - if you seriously can find me one piece of information that does not show very clearly an exponential increase in grain consumption in the last 100 years (that goes right along with the prevalence of diseases of civilization), I'd love to see it. I really don't think it exists.

Just a few examples (that aren't even talking about Paleo):

• Dangerous Grains
  
  
• The Great Cholesterol Con
  
  
• Trick and Treat: How Healthy Eating is Making Us Ill
  
  
• Food and Western Disease: Health and nutrition from an evolutionary perspective
  
  
• Gluten and Autism
  
  
• MS and Diet
  
  
• RA and Diet
  
  
• If those aren't enough, happy reading. I hate to break it to you, but even non-paleo dr.'s and scientists from across a host of fields are all coming to the conclusion - based on biochemistry and specifically how our guts, intestines, etc. interact with them - that grains are a far bigger problem than quality meats.
  
  Yes, every one of these will talk about shit-quality meats, but also extensively about "high-quality, whole" grains. And before you use the word "pseudoscientific" again, I'd just like to say I'm not sure that you know what it means. These citations are from scientists. I haven't yet seen you cite one scientist. And before you quote the China Study - don't. It's bunk, been proven to be bunk, by people smarter and more thorough than Denise Minger's pretty solid piece on Campbell's skewing of the stats.
  
  Get your learn on.
  
  Personally, I don't give a shit if you eat meat or not. But you're conflating a moral issue (of yours) with a health issue (of ours). I'll agree with you that the vast majority of meat that gets eaten in this country is crap. Factory farms need to go. Grain-feeding animals needs to stop. So do food subsidies for corn and grain. But beyond your morals, there's absolutely nothing unhealthy about eating a grass-fed steak, or a cage-free, chicken that's been allowed to run around outside and do its chicken-y thing. So long as you tolerate those well (food allergy tests - another thing I'm not sure you're aware of that's very, very popular in the Paleo community, and many people come back allergic or intolerant of many animal products).
  
  Anyway, I'm done here. You still haven't specifically told me what's pseudoscientific. You've linked to a group with an agenda and wikipedia, but have made all sorts of claims that imply you have some very specific knowledge relating to some damaging aspects of consumption of high-quality meats in a balanced diet with high-quality fruits, veggies, etc. I can link you studies and papers by scientists and doctors all day. You haven't cited one.
  
  Moreover, you make the claim that because we don't know what foods we're evolved to thrive on we shouldn't eat Paleo - all the while claiming Veganism is better. On what grounds if you can't say what we've evolved to eat? You can't have your cake and eat it too.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

2 years ago this month I had horrible seasonal allergies that seemed to ramp up my immune system. I got awful headaches after eating corn, almonds, eggs and dairy and suddenly, beef started making me puke. I wrote a guy named Ron Hoggan who wrote a book called [Dangerous Grains] (http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Grains-Gluten-Cereal-Hazardous/dp/1583331298) and asked advice on how I should go about doing an elimination diet to isolate things that were making me sick. He's a forerunner in paleo stuff, has been advocating it on the ICORS celiac listserv since I was diagnosed in 2003. You'll often find this excellent book referred to by more paleo authors who are more in the mainstream now.

Anyhow, he recommended I get off all non-ancestral proteins and every kind of meat I was used to eating. Since I'm of mainly British Isles ancestry, for about 6 weeks I only ate wild-caught ocean fish, lamb, and different kind of fowl (duck, cornish hens, quail, etc.) excluding chicken. After a few weeks I also added bison since I knew it wasn't something I'd become allergic to since I'd rarely had it in the past.

My headaches ended once I figured out all the above foods were causing me problems. I'd always been between half-assed and full-on SCD (specific carbohydrate diet that eliminates grains, starch and all but monosaccharide sugar).

in addition, joint pain went WAY down, I had more energy, could think more clearly, sleep better and was more even-tempered and generally happier. For most of my life my very narrow nasal passages would close up when I lied down so my mouth would get horribly dry from breathing through my mouth all night. That ended. It's remarkable after every big salad I eat that I can just breathe so much better; I totally believe in the anti-inflammatory aspects of the large amounts of fresh veggies we eat on paleo diet.

As a bonus, I lost 35 lbs I didn't need (although I wasn't hugely overweight, just getting chubby). There's no way that weight loss alone would have been enough to motivate this change, I'm just not vain enough, but it was a welcome benefit. edit: typos

They don't?
Have you ever went grain free?

If you live in south Florida, you likely don't have to worry about vit D.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/03/21/Can-Vitamin-D-Cure-the-Common-Cold.aspx

This book and many others come to the same conclusion about grains.
http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Grains-Gluten-Cereal-Hazardous/dp/1583331298

Grains have no vitamin C, D, A, or B12. The phytic acid flushes B vitamins and minerals from your body. That's why they're called antinutrients.