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u/AZ_R50 · 7 pointsr/unitedkingdom

Did you read what I said? in the Quran (neither in the Bible) the very word homosexual does not exist since it's a 19th century western concept. Columbian professor Joseph Massad even stated in his book until the modern era Islamic nations were better for homosexuals as they weren't punished. If you're too lazy to open and read a book about it them here is information on wikipedia

>The Ottoman Caliphate “ruled the Sunni Muslim world for centuries.” It was “much more open-minded regarding the homosexual issue” than is the current Turkish government although it “claims to emulate” the Ottoman Caliphate. “The Ottoman Empire had an extensive literature of homosexual romance, and an accepted social category of transvestites.” It could be argued that the Ottoman sultans “were social liberals compared with the contemporary Islamists of Turkey, let alone the Arab World.”

>Before the modern era, Islamic nations were not so opposed to same-sex relations. For example, a ruler in Persia in the 11th-century advised his son “to alternate his partners seasonally: young men in the summer and women in the winter.” Many eighth-century love poems by Abu Nuwas in Baghdad and by other Persian and Urdu poets seem to have been “addressed to boys.” In mystic writings of the medieval era, such as Sufi texts, it is “unclear whether the beloved being addressed is a teenage boy or God.” European chroniclers censured “the indulgent attitudes to gay sex in the Caliphs' courts.”

>The modern rejection and criminalization of “homosexuality in Islam gained momentum through the exogenous effects of European colonialism. . . . ” European thought at the time treated homosexuality as “against nature.”

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>"characterized by a marked deficit in gender equality in family law. The notion that men are women's keepers and have a degree of command over them is sustained in Islamic scriptures. In legal practice, this has translated into laws requiring husbands to support their wives financially, laws ordaining wifely obedience, laws granting men alone the right to dictate divorce and laws granting men the right to the compulsory return of their wives in the event of a revocable divorce " source

Clarionproject is a known organsation that projects a dehuminising and demonizing caricutures of Muslims to justify western wars that leave hundreds of thousands dead. There advisory board for stance include Frank Gaffney who is known for conspiracies like the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrating the US government and CIA and accusation of Obama being a Muslim.

>I'm saying if you look at Islamic law, the penalty for apostasy is criminal sanctions up to and including the death penalty source: Law Library of Congress

Even here just because there is a law it's rarely been implemented a Lebanese atheist Abu Khalil even criticised this concept of apostates regularly being massacred by Muslim mobs to be silly. He is alive after all.