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u/Zazuu94 · 18 pointsr/summonerschool

Yeeeeow nice post man.

If you're a bit of a reader, I think you'd like the following books:

Drive: http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805

Talks about where human motivation stems from. People are mislead by thinking that extrinsic rewards are the no. 1 motivator for people (e.g. money). However most studies are starting to show that intrinsically motivated people are the most productive and successful.

Talent code - http://www.amazon.com/Talent-Code-Greatness-Born-Grown/dp/055380684X/ref=pd_sim_14_6?ie=UTF8&dpID=41MunW5Js4L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL320_SR216%2C320_&refRID=168Q5YDYYGJGSE9QPMCJ

The practicing mind - http://www.amazon.com/Practicing-Mind-Developing-Discipline-Challenge/dp/1608680908/ref=pd_sim_14_17?ie=UTF8&dpID=41xIyq0O4wL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR100%2C160_&refRID=097CJ40FQXQ88KG5TDAS

Both of these books are great for instilling the fact that greatness isn't bestowed upon someone, it takes years and dedicated practice cultivate a valuable skill.

If you'd like these books, send me a PM because I have the PDF/Audiobook of them.

u/StrongishOpinion · 9 pointsr/financialindependence

I think a lot of people when they actually reach FI will be surprised that they encounter depression & a "what now" moment (or long series of moments). I personally had a long break from work recently, and it shocked me how surprisingly quickly I started thinking fondly about being at work.

I strongly suggest taking a look at this book:
http://smile.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805/

It's a book which touches on education, work, but most importantly, what it is that drives people to feel like they're accomplishing something in life, feel satisfied, etc. I think it particularly applies to those of us who will leave the structure of work (which provides to various degrees those things for us), and now we're forced to generate our own structure to ensure we feel motivated & accomplished.

Specifically to you, I think if you found something you could be great at, working in an industry for a time to learn would be a great thing. It'd also help you appreciate your lack of requirement for working. Also, considering "not needing to work" is a terrible reason to "not work", you should start thinking about what you wish to accomplish with life. Video games & movies is a terrible way to spend the single life you have (in my opinion).

u/Amonwilde · 8 pointsr/emacs

There's actually an interesting literature on extrinsic vs. intrinsic rewards, and the upshot is often that getting paid for something reduces intrinsic reward, which can be a powerful motivator. Getting small amounts of money could, counterintuitively, actually disincentivize work on Emacs.

There's an interesting book on this phenomenon called Drive: https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805

u/play_a_record · 6 pointsr/Anarchy101

Fellow market socialist here. There are a number of problematic assumptions underlying the question.

In the first place, you needn't accept the premise that risk-taking is inherently good and therefore "deserves" some sort of reward.

Nevertheless, let's contrast risk taking under capitalism with its market socialism counterpart. Under a capitalist model, if the owner's risk-taking succeeds, he may either pocket the success or recapitalize as he deems necessary. If he's a particularly benevolent owner his employees may, on a good spirited whim, see some reward, but this is unlikely and indeed, rightly so, says the capitalist--labor knew the terms of their wage agreement from the outset.

Now, if his risk-taking doesn't pay off, his employees will be the first to bear the consequences (think layoffs, relocations, pay-cuts, etc.), mitigating against any negatives he may incur. At the very worst, his risk-taking may land him squarely in the working class, on equal footing with his former employees (who are now also unemployed because of his risk-taking).

Alternatively, in a market socialist enterprise where ownership is shared among and managed by the workers themselves, those who take the risks and those who bear the consequences (good and bad) are the same.

As for innovation, which is a different matter than risk-taking, it's often, and today almost entirely, the result of collective endeavor and collaboration, built on the backs of the research of previous generations. The thought that there are singular, genius innovators who owe nothing to anyone and therefore deserve everything that their idea alone may potentially beget is idealist and Hollywood. This sort of thinking also mistakes what actually motivates innovators (autonomy, purpose, mastery). You can look to contemporary open source communities, or even public institutions, for evidence of this.

u/cracell · 6 pointsr/news

Modern motivation research has shown that such systems of reward actually lead to worst service overall.

Here's a quick article on a lot of the issues with tipping and how it doesn't improve service. Daniel Pink's book Drive compiles a lot of the modern research around motivation in a very accessible format. It covers the issues around tipping and why the system makes no sense along with a lot of other modern outdated practices.

u/Pas__ · 6 pointsr/worldevents

WTF? How is it speculation? I live in a country with national health care.

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Doctors quality is not directly tied to salary. Their salary is tied to supply and demand.

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There are many many cheaper ways to get good quality health care other than to offer ludicrous amounts of money to some doctors. ( https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805 http://freakonomics.com/medicine-healthcare/ )

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And, maybe you have missed all the rest of my comment, but even if you keep salaries of doctors constant, if you remove the rent earned by current HMOs, you get a ~40% cheaper system.

u/JohnnyBeagle · 6 pointsr/PoliticalDiscussion
u/BetterThenCash · 5 pointsr/Bitcoin

Read the story concerning Microsoft encarta vs wikipedia.

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

Then read and comprehend this: http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805

I would not be worried about what the bankers are doing, obviously they see a threat in Bitcoin but firing up an altcoin will not work in the end.

It would be analogous to all the media and newspapers joining together and creating a second internet after the first one has been established.

u/brikis98 · 4 pointsr/programming

Supply and demand works if we are perfectly rational actors. But there is considerable evidence that we're not: see Predictably Irrational and Thinking, Fast and Slow. Salary in particular is known for irrational behavior. See the discussion of motivation in Drive or the short version in Daniel Pink's TED talk. Programmers are already fairly well paid and while I would certainly love to be paid more, I'm not convinced that alone would significantly increase the supply of developers.

The evidence for the talent gap is both anecdotal--every company I've worked at and many others I've interacted with complained extensively about lack of good developers--and some limited data (example 1, example 2), though it's not clear how to properly measure something like this.

Finally, I'm not sure that merely having 10x skill is enough to guarantee 10x pay. Perhaps in a perfect market with perfect knowledge and perfectly rational actors, it might be, but that's not how the real world works. You need not only 10x skill at your job, but also at turning that into money, which may be a completely different set of talents. For example, a 10x writer might make less money than an average writer if that average writer had their book turned into a popular teen movie. Similarly, the way for a programmer to make 10x the money is usually not to focus on salary (although there were some stories of Google and FB offering millions to retain some developers), but equity. And there, an exec-level programmer can get 10x the equity of a normal dev, though there is obviously a lot of luck as to whether the equity ends up paying off.

u/Burnsidious · 4 pointsr/politics

Its more from a management and leadership in the workplace angle but Drive gets into some of these ideas:
http://smile.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1463244399&sr=8-2&keywords=drive

The basic idea though is that at best rewards and punishments (carrot and the stick) only motivate someone to do just enough to get the reward or not get punished.

You could probably get most of the good parts from his TED talk : http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pink_on_motivation?language=en

u/[deleted] · 3 pointsr/management

My most recent reads in no particular order:

Project Management: A Managerial Approach http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470226218

Project Management http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0136065619

Crossing the Chasm http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060517123

Product Design and Development http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0073101427

Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0071401946

The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743269519

Portfolio Management For New Products http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0738205141

Operations Management http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0324179391

Third Generation R & D http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0875842526

Being the Boss http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/142216389X

Drive http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594484805

Authentic Leadership http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0787975281

Good Boss, Bad Boss http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446556084

Outliers http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316017930

Seven Lessons for Leading in Crisis http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470531878

The Upside of the Downturn http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002XULXOM

Negotiation Techniques http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EP2DZ6

What Every BODY is Saying http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061438294

Ackoff's Best http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471316342

Tough Conversations With Your Boss http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HKM7UE

u/emilwallner · 3 pointsr/productivity

This is the rationale behind the argument:

  • Your learn slower if you don't see the value/usefulness. Procrastination is a function of four elements: (Expectancy x Value)/(Impulsiveness x Delay) = Motivation. If you reduce expectancy, value, and increase delay you increase procrastination.

  • You have to depend on extrinsic motivation(fear/rewards) if you don't see the value/usefulness. This harms your psychological wellbeing in the long-run and depletes intrinsic motivation. Source

  • To simplify, we have two types of intelligence, fluid intelligence (iq), and crystallized intelligence(facts). Many believe we increase our fluid intelligence when we study, we don't. You can increase your crystallized intelligence if you memorize facts. If you don't retain the facts you acquire throughout life, you don't increase your crystallized intelligence.

  • Using knowledge for a real world problem has four benefits: 1) You use the knowledge in spaced intervals, which retains your knowledge. 2) The knowledge becomes engaging, which also retains knowledge. 3) You understand how you can combine the knowledge with other ideas. This increases the amount of ideas you can form with the knowledge. 4) You add direct value with the knowledge.

  • Learning knowledge for an exam you don't see the value/usefulness for has three disadvantages: 1) You will not naturally use the knowledge in spaced intervals after the exam. You have to create a spaced repetition system to retain the knowledge. This is time consuming and takes willpower to maintain. 2) It is not genuinely engaging, which is bad for retention. 3) It's almost certain that you will forget the knowledge, and thereby not adding any value with it.

  • Your personal and professional life is all about solving problems. You memorize a set of facts that enables you solve problems. If you know the specific problem you want to solve you can rationalize, discuss, and optimize the set of facts. If you don't apply it to a specific problem, you don't have a rationale to optimize the set of facts for. Hence, subject based knowledge acquisition is ineffective.

    drunk_kronk/jimmwr, I'd love to hear your angle on it. A quick outline of the support for learning things that you can't see the value for and is not directly useful.
u/NoOtherOnes · 3 pointsr/MMA

The book Drive dives into it and sites many studies.

https://www.amazon.ca/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805

u/purhitta · 3 pointsr/productivity

Hey friend, I'm in the same boat (graphic design.) I need to build my portfolio to change jobs & move this year, but I've been severely lacking in all forms of motivation & discipline. While design is my career & passion and I truly do love it, I never learned the self-discipline tactics to stay on a schedule. Any schedule I've made for myself in the past falls apart almost immediately. And when I do get into the right mindset to work, it's hard for me to focus for long periods of time. The work that I usually love becomes dull and the sweet siren songs of Youtube & reddit beckon me away.

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I've been procrastinating on this for two years now. I know. It's bad.

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A few months ago I realized I'm almost always inadvertently waiting for a "breakthrough" in my mental state. I'm essentially closing my eyes and hoping that a gush of motivation will wash over me. That all my previous excuses will suddenly stop making sense & my brain will eagerly jump forward with all the energy and ambition I'm missing. I've become somewhat addicted to self-improvement tactics, testing every new theory in hopes that it'll be my "big break." It feels like something is off in my clockwork, and if only I could find the one widget or gear to fix it, all my internal hangups, procrastination, fear, and demotivation will be solved.

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Well, it's been two years. A breakthrough hasn't arrived yet. I've realized it's not coming.

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I've exhausted so much self-help that I'm exhausted by all the self-help. I'm tired of tricks and quick-fixes to getting work done. Because they don't work in the long term (a quick-fix, by definition, is temporary.) It's becoming abundantly clear that I cannot manipulate myself into doing work that I don't want to do. I just have to do it.

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So I'm retraining my brain's habits. When I sit down at my desk, I almost physically crave distraction. I don't want to be faced with my work and all its failures (actual & potential.) I literally grit my teeth and visualize the new neural pathways forming in my brain (or at the very least, the old ones breaking.) The only way to solidify new habits is to DO THEM, because they get easier with time. And it's worth it to remind yourself that if it's difficult today- if everything in your body revolts at the thought of putting pen to paper- this is the worst it's going to feel, and you CAN push past the resistance. Repetition breeds ease.

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I'm a perfectionist and a procrastinator. Creating stuff scares me to death. Putting it into a portfolio for the world scares me to death. Also it's just hard work. You know as well as I do that art is just as much a job as anything else. It takes effort- effort that we often don't have or want to conjure. So I'm relearning how to fall in love with the boredom, and how to crave a flow state, and how to sit down and focus instead of throwing an attention-span tantrum about how I don't want to do this.

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Because there will never be a perfect day, or a perfect mood, or a perfect time. You will never feel insanely motivated and inspired to do your work (I mean, you might, but give up that vision as a solution. It's not reliable.) People romanticize dedication to a habit (have you seen the fans of fitness gurus on Instagram?) but you can't romanticize the work. It's dirty and frustrating, painful and exhausting. But it's meaningful, and that's why you resist it- because it's important to you, and maybe you're scared it won't live up to your expectations or that your goals are unattainable. It's okay to feel afraid. It's okay to feel uninspired, or bored, or tired, or hungry, or grumpy. It's okay to feel like you want to do anything but the work.

Do it anyway.

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Despite my earlier claim that all my self-improvement research has been more stifling than helpful, there ARE some resources that have helped me:

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- Drive by Daniel Pink - on why intrinsic motivation is essential for getting anything meaningful done

- Deep Work by Cal Newport - how to slow down and focus

- Talk to other artists. Seriously. Like, in-person. I'm the most introverted hermit you'll ever meet but when I'm struggling creatively, just TALKING to another designer pumps up my spirits. I hate small talk and I hate social interaction (hello, social anxiety) but its benefits are exponential

- Therapy & medication - 'cause you can't muscle through a neurological or psychological problem (without help at least)

- Just start. Draw one line.

- Accountability- if you're good with client deadlines but not your own (raises hand,) get someone to check in on you. Sometimes we just need someone else nagging us to get our lives in line

- Downsize your responsibilities- human beings are very very bad at multitasking & juggling a lot of things at once. For something to take priority, other things need to take a backseat

- Sleep! I was diagnosed with sleep apnea in February. Got a CPAP and who knew I could feel so awake and energetic in the mornings?! It's nuts. But even if you don't have a sleep disorder, sleep is way WAY more important than people realize.

-Red Lemon Club- this is a site/blog/group of people (we have a Slack group) started by this guy named Alex who just gets it. The instagram is worth following alone

u/adshad · 3 pointsr/agile

There's plenty of literature that promotes the same things:

Drive by Daniel H. Pink

[Antifragile by Nassim Nicholas Taleb]
(http://www.amazon.com/Antifragile-Things-That-Disorder-Incerto/dp/0812979680/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465069079&sr=8-1&keywords=antifragile)

Organize for complexity by Niels Pflaeging

Reinventing organizations by Frederic Laloux

Management 3.0 by Jurgen Appelo

Agile is a paradigm, not an instruction guide, and so all of these including the one you mentioned can be incorporated. Agile is not some stubborn point-by-point fieldbook, its a general attitude.

Many of the books I mentioned never make a single reference to Agile, because its being implemented in fields completely unrelated to software engineering (nurses doing homecare for seniors, auto part manufacturing, etc..)

u/Aechzen · 2 pointsr/marriedredpill
u/kwitcherbichen · 2 pointsr/sysadmin

First, congratulations!

It's different work and while it's still technical it's now about people but it can be learned. Find a mentor who is not your boss. Seriously. It's good to have one or more advocates in the organization because there are limits to what "push" vs "pull" can achieve but it's their advice that you need to reduce your mistakes and effectively review them afterward.

I'll add to the book recommendations already here (The Phoenix Project, Team of Teams, Leaders Eat Last) and suggest:

u/seouled-out · 1 pointr/business

no I don't, but if I remember correctly this book highlighted 2-3 studies with such findings http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805

u/nomic42 · 1 pointr/aspergers

Lots of great posts here. You certainly hit a hot topic that we all relate to quite well.

I had quite the opposite experience with my parents. I was not expected to go to college or do at all well. My highschool grades were meager and I never studied well. It was up to me to either succeed or fail. It's mostly because people pissed me off by saying I couldn't make it that I put in the effort to show them wrong. In my first semester, I got straight A's. After that I did manage to fail a class. I asked the professor to fail me so I could retake it next year. I got over 100% that next year and added a major in the subject. Sometimes failure provides a wake-up call to solve an important problem in ones own life.

I don't know what to advise for him. It's great that he has a parent that is patient and listens. He'll have to find his own motivation and find his own way to make it all work.

Here are a couple books I at least found interesting:

The Power of Habit

Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us

u/Korshay · 1 pointr/intj

Career Management: Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us. I used to be extremely judgmental, angry and confused about how a career was "supposed to" work. This book has been a goto of mine since early 2010, and I refer to it often when evaluating my career path.

Self-Improvement: The 4-Hour Body. As someone who has struggled and given up on weight-loss for more than a decade, I mastered my body composition for the first time in my 40+ years by losing 60#. This is my proudest self-improvement goal, by far.

Operating System: The Obstacle is the Way: The Timeless Art of Turning Trials into Triumph. This was my introduction to stoicism, which I've adopted as my "operating system" for life. I found this to be more accessible than Seneca's On The Shortness of Life or Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, both of which are difficult for me to digest.

u/PLEASE_USE_LOGIC · 1 pointr/AskMen

Drive by Daniel Pink

u/Aliencorpse_ · 1 pointr/worldnews

Drive

Mindset

These are really good books, please read them. You need the knowledge that these books provide. They will also have a nice byproduct of increasing your income.

> As for the Eurostat numbers you said the AfD were the leeches not the economic migrants.

Did I? You might want to double check that.

> The numbers showed that yes the migrants were leeches

The survey said that a majority of them want to work and are struggling to find it.

What's your education level?

u/batbdotb · 1 pointr/TheMindIlluminated

Procrastination was solved for me by a paradigm shift: Motivation is not a prereq for action; but rather, motivation comes from taking action.

This book talks about it.

I'm also currently reading Drive which seems to debunk to the carrot and stick paradigm.

u/satanic_hamster · 1 pointr/CapitalismVSocialism

> No, of course it's possible, but it's representative of cronyism rather than free market capitalism.

So then by your own admission, just because it's cronyism, doesn't mean it's not capitalism.

> Free market capitalism opposes government intervention, thus any cronyism that involves utilization of the government cannot be defined as free market capitalism. Maybe we have different ideas about what exactly "free market capitalism" means, but it's a term that literally implies lack of government intervention. Plus, if all property/resources are 100% privately owned and individuals have complete ownership over their land and society is only based off free trade, there can be no state. If you don't give the government what it needs to fund cronyism, it's going to have a pretty hard time doing so. When the government, which is publicly funded, is given less power (and less power to engage in cronyism), and private individuals take its place in certain aspects of society, that could be seen as leaning more towards free market capitalism.

If we're going to argue over free market capitalism, it's fair enough to say that government intervention isn't representative of that in practice. However I'll go one step further, free markets not only can't exist, but they never have. Not in the early history of the US, not anywhere.

> Not capitalism. Government spending is not capitalism. Government spending in a capitalist country still ≠ capitalism.

So now you've switched here between saying that it's not free market capitalism, to it's not capitalism at all. Capitalism doesn't stand in contrast to government participation in a market system, and State capitalism has been known to be a real phenomenon.

> I believe the point you're trying to make is that the implementation of capitalism itself is what has led to the government we have now, is that correct?

No, what I'm saying is idealized attempts to implement free markets in practice, never end up the way that libertarians and anarcho-capitalists want them to. That's why in other threads I've said, while it's not a perfect example by any means, aren't countries like Somalia and Mozambique far closer to a free market system in action? Some of them even think Hong Kong and Singapore are closer examples, but it's simply not true, and profit is rarely the factor (at least in the psychological literature) that drives most of us to do what we do.

> Describing government as a corruptible actor is understating it. The government itself is a very active actor, and at the very heart of it is corruption. The fact that it has a monopoly on the legitimized use of force and is allowed to use violence to achieve its goals is the problem. It takes a certain mindset to allow any entity (even if it symbolizes the public) to have this kind of power, and that is at the heart of the problem. All people, whether they’re business owners or regular workers, are susceptible to greed. This greed can emerge as an incentive to produce, or it can lead to cronyism. The worst thing to do would be to justify allowing the government to act as some sort of medium for cronyism. It is the government which people are okay with being taxed and governed by, not businesses.

Right, and as you admit, this is no more peculiar to government than it is to big businesses, so to single it out for special criticism is simply mistaken. If anything in the absence of governments, corporations essentially have free reign, and the incentive structures in capitalism are perverse enough, that I view it as ultimately unsustainable in the opposite direction.

u/t__p · 1 pointr/socialism

Since there are no sources here, you might like this book: http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805

It is not at all socialist, and the author is very pro-business rightwing. However, it counters myths about money motivating people and has references to psychology studies. I think the ultra rich understand capitalism as well as socialists, they just are fans for the other side...

I'm sure you can find a pirated copy online, or in a library, if your region has a good library system.

u/SoundLizard · 1 pointr/politics

If that were actually the truth I might agree with your conclusion, however your 'truth' differs from the evidence I've found. It's this assumed value set that is the issue - it keeps us from moving forward to a better way of life, not the lack of technology or flaw of the human condition.

From what I've researched on the topics of competition and motivation, competition hurts motivation and money hurts motivation in creative tasks.

These books are relevant:

No Contest: The Case Against Competition
by Alfie Kohn



Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us
by Daniel H. Pink

u/GorillaDownDicksOut · 1 pointr/GetMotivated

> Do you have any recommendations on motivation and feelings of accomplishment? Nowdays I have zero motivation to do anything and I don't get any feeling of accomplishment or joy from accomplishing what I had thought were my goals.

> I got the same feeling from getting a promotion as I did when I just slept and stayed in bed all day.

This may be a case of every problem looking like a nail when you've got a hammer, but it sounds like philosophy could be beneficial. Motivation is something that I've always struggled with, and there's no effective way that I've found to really manipulate it. What did work is really thinking about what I want out of life, what my goals really are, and what I value. After I figured that out (on going process), motivation was a lot easier becasue I had a clear target and knew what I wanted to do.

I didn't get any joy from practising the guitar because it wasn't what I really cared about. But when I know what I'm doing is getting me closer to what I really want in life, then the sense of accomplishment comes easily. If you're not getting a sense of accomplishment from getting a promotion, then that's likely becasue you don't think that that gets you closer to living the life you want.

Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us could be a good starting point, and then I'd follow it up with The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck for an easy introduction to stoic philosophy.

EDIT: Stoic philosophy is what helped me, but that doesn't mean it'll do the same for you. I did a fair bit of reading on other subjects before finding something that worked. That's why it's important to just put the time in; it's the only way you'll find what works for you.