Reddit reviews Evoluent VM4R VerticalMouse 4 Right Hand Ergonomic Mouse with Wired USB Connection (Regular Size),clear

Or just a vertical mouse

I've been using some form of the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard for a decade now.

My mouse is a Zowie EC2-A, but I also have a Evoluent VerticalMouse 4 for when I'm not gaming and my wrist acts up.

I don't have to use headphones, so I've had the same pair of Altec Lansing computer speakers on my desk for ten years now. Honestly probably closer to 15 years.

Edit: updated with links

I don't game with one but several co workers use something similar to This. There are a ton of different kinds of vertical mice that may help.

Have you tried vertical mouse like this one? I've heard this mouse can help with pain problems.

http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK

Get a vertical mouse, this is my preference: Evoluent Veritcal Mouse

Also get an ergonomic keyboard. The flat ones are killer.

Lastly, make sure you aren't using arm rests on your chair. Try to keep your elbows close to your side and your forearms straight away from your body. Elbows at a 90* angle. Looking straight ahead, you should see the top third of your screen(s).
Keeping proper posture is important!

so here are a few ergo mouse options. Along with that an mx red keyboard with orings will have about 2mm travel at about 55g of force to actuate. Couple these with proper wrist support and desk height, you should feel a lot better gaming and playing.

An ergo dox may even be better than a standard keyboard for you but a pricey endeavor.

Hope you get to share your passion with your daughter in the years to come!

maybe a new mouse?

trackball:

https://www.kensington.com/nl/be/4493/k72327eu/slimblade-trackball
vertical mouse:
https://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-model/dp/B00427TAIK

and this is nice software i found that reminds you take breaks:

http://www.workrave.org/

Just figured I'd post this as an alternative:
Ergonomic Vertical Mouse - inexpensive | midrange
| expensive

If you are interested in getting a mouse, I saw these last time i was shopping for a mouse and thought they were a very cool idea. I don't have any experience with them, so I can't say if they help, but they exist.


No hate for the controller though. I played on a touchpad for a very long time, so I understand the hate you might get. Since early in the beta, I've thought about trying to play Smite on a controller. Glad to hear they finally made it possible.

Depends on the mouse. At work I use an Evoluent v4 because without it my arm feels like somebody is driving screws through it. They are special circumstance and as such expensive. And older MX revolutions were 100 a piece.

http://www.amazon.com/Goldtouch-GTU-0088-Adjustable-Comfort-Keyboard/dp/B005ZLTNN4

Most of my development team uses the above split keyboard all at different angles and heights.

I pair this with a vertical mouse http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK lot of wrist problems went away after making the switch. Two years in still a happy coder.

I work in state gov so we got all that ergonomic assessment stuff. Some of it I think is pretty silly but the guy had some good advice as far as changing phone position to require less of a reach (or maybe you could put it across your desk so you have to get up to get it?), using a headset instead of the cradle (pretty bad for your traps), and I use one of those more neutral-grip keyboards and mouses like this actually so less internal rotation on average. If you can't get a standing desk, then maybe making a bunch of little changes like that could add up to help you out. Because yeah, no amount of mobility is going to fix 40+ hours in bad positions.

What exactly are your problems with the switches? Carpal tunnel and loss of strength on the fingers?

A vertical mouse might be better for you, like this: https://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK



For absolutely light weight, why not a touchpad? https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Touchpad-Multi-Touch-Navigation/dp/B005DSPLC6

I have just been diagnosed with RA, and still waiting for my appointment with the Rhuematologist, next month. I work in IT, and use a keyboard/mouse a lot. for work, I highly recommend getting an ergonomic mouse in addition to an ergonomic Keyboard. I have this one by Anker at home. It is very comfortable, but for more than 4-5 hours it caused my pinky to curl and get really stiff. I have this one from Evoluent at work, and I am able to work through my 9 hour day without too many problems, as long as I am using my ergonomic keyboard, which I use both at home and work. I hope this helps!

edit, to make more sense.

I have a couple ergonomic mice. The one you see is a cheap-o wireless ergonomic Tecknet mouse I just picked up. It's ok. I find the tracking a little off but I'm still playing with it and for the price you can't go wrong.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JJEC31C

However I also have an Evoluent vertical mouse that tracks better (I have the old wired version of that):

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00427TAIK

I think it's overpriced, but at the time it was the only vertical mouse I could find.

If it's not clear the vertical orientation on these mice is less stressful on your wrist. I had some RSI a while back. These mice helped eliminate it.

Eu ti-as recomanda scaunul asta pe care l-am folosit foarte mult timp, considera-l o investitie in sanatate. Daca alegi altceva, alge ceva cu cotiere reglabile macar pe inaltime, e foarte important sa poti sa tii coatele sprijinite la o inaltime adecvata. Scaunul trebuie neaparat probat inainte, indiferent cat de scump e s-ar putea sa nu fie bun pentru tine. Eu am renuntat la el in favoarea unui scaun vechi din lemn masiv care pur si simplu se muleaza pe mine si pe care am dat vreo 200 de lei.

Biroul nu prea conteaza cat timp se poate regla pe inaltime, au la ikea niste variante de birou reglabil chiar acceptabile.

Monitor as recomanda un ultrawide, dar ceva minim 34'', rezolutie minima 3440x1440. Daca nu planuiesti sa te joci, poti sa iei si un IPS cu refresh rate de 60Hz.

Ameteala e probabil din cauza ca ai nevoie de ochelari, dar ar fi bine sa consulti un medic pentru asta.

LE: Poti sa incerci un mouse vertical pe langa cel clasic si sa faci schimb intre ele din cand in cand ca sa nu stai cu incheietura in aceeasi pozitie. E foarte bun cel de la Logitech daca n-ai mana mare (pentru mine e prea mic), eu deocamdata folosesc un Trust Rexx care sta foarte bine in mana, dar mi se pare ca se apasa un pic prea greu butoanele. Acum astept sa imi vina un mouse de la Evoluent pe care l-am incercat la cineva si mi s-a parut perfect pentru mine.

i was having pain in my wrist and switched to http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Natural-Ergonomic-Keyboard-4000/dp/B000A6PPOK and a more expensive http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK and it really really helped, also you might just want to take breaks more often, and focus on if you have too much tension in your hand while you're typing.. maybe cut down on facebook too :)

I think ones closer to vertical are supposed to be better ergonomically. The really high quality ones made by Evoluent are nearly vertical.

http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1426885568&sr=1-1&keywords=evolunt+vertical+mouse

Evoluent VM4R VerticalMouse 4 Right Hand Ergonomic Mouse with Wired USB Connection (Regular Size) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00427TAIK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_793XDbFFNFHGE

There's a weird upright mouse I've seen an editor use, it puts your hand in a very ergonomic position, much like a tablet would. I can't remember the name of it for the life of me, but it's probably a Logitech product. Your hand is turned nearly completely sideways when using it, thumb facing up like you're shaking hands. EDIT: it's not this one, but it's the same general style. He swears by it. http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_1_0

>Will a driving record with two wrecks and a few tickets(no DUIs) bar me from all of those jobs?

Not unless it's like a Geek Squad or similar situation. I worked IT for almost a decade with no car at all and experienced no career issues.

>I just got diagnosed with carpel tunnel

First, talk with your doctor. A lot. Then go get a second opinion and talk to that doctor a lot. Please ignore all internet suggestions until you've done those things. But so long as you're prepared to listen to medical advice, and possibly wear some wrist/hand braces, carpel tunnel should not prevent you from working in your chosen field.

That said, I would suggest that you (and anyone in IT, really) spend some time researching and shopping for the tools which will best support your work, especially with regard to human interface devices. Here are a few jumping off points, all of which are expensive, but nonetheless are worth ten times the price if they fit your hands well and allow you to use them for long periods of time without discomfort:

https://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK

https://ergodox-ez.com/

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-ergodox

After thought - have you tried a vertical mouse, e.g. Evoluent VerticalMouse 4 Right Large

You could try a vertical mouse and a wrist rest they might take the pressure off your wrist?

Unfortunately the angle that most mice require for use is not the optimal ergonomic angle for our wrists. It requires us to twist our wrist so that our palm is flat on the mouse/table. However, many companies manufacture ergonomic mice which can help alleviate these issues. Here's Microsoft's offereing and an even more ergonomic design called the Evoluent Vertical Mouse. There are others, you just have to find one that fits your needs. Also, using a drawing stylus and a pad can also help transfer over some of the same motions from using physical media to the digital world

EDIT: Also, for free.99 you can make sure that your chair and desk height is in a comfortable position because if your chair is too high or desk to low, then your hand and wrist have to come in at a flexed angle to use the mouse, adding to the stress. (Sort of like this / where the flat part is your hand and the / is your for-arm. It should ideally be _ / where the / is your upper arm, and your hand is parallel with your for-arm.

Without a doubt: Evoluent Vertical Mouse http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK

For an experiment, holding your arm out, rotate your hand/wrist to its normal mousing position, and notice how your muscles have to work to maintain this position. This is the definition of "Repetitive Stress". A vertical mouse helps to minimize that motion by keeping your hand in a more neutral vertical position.

I had to find out too. I think an Evoluent: http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00427TAIK