Reddit reviews Filter, MoCA POE Filter for Cable TV Coaxial Networking ONLY

Most splitters should be okay. I've run into a shoddy one here or there but they were probably old/broken.

Just make sure you get the MOCA POE filter if you didn't know already, it keeps your network from becoming available to your entire neighborhood.

And it probably won't be a big deal but I've found the Actiontech MOCA 2.0 adapters to be better than the Motorola's in terms of performance.

I’m renting a room, and the place has an arris router with built in moca from Comcast.

I went outside where the cable is split, and replaced the splitter with this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OTOEIGK

Added this filter to the “In” port https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DC8IEE6

Then I enabled moca in the router settings.

Finally I hooked up this adapter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D8Y4N5J

Working great, without the multi-daily disruptions I had from Ethernet over powerline. I have no idea what the full possible speed could be, as we only have ~100mbps line

A Moca device should be compatible with any other moca device. Where you may have problems is potentially with cable or voice stuff, but I can’t speak to that.

put a MOCA filter on the line behind the modem.

First, I would suggest this MoCA adapter. Cheaper and Motorola generally makes reliable equipment.

Motorola MOCA Adapter for Ethernet over Coax, 1,000 Mbps Bonded 2.0 MoCA (Model MM1000) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077Y3SQXR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8lL4AbTZQGZ04

Second, you just need to make sure the coax line your modem is hooked up to is split somewhere and also connected to the room you want the other adapter to be. You'll also want to purchase a MoCa filter to keep your MoCa in and block any other outside MoCa that others may not have blocked on their own.

Filter, MoCA "POE" Filter for Cable TV Coaxial Networking ONLY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qoL4AbWDKZV5D

You'll just need one on the input cable to your home. Best outside where the exterior cable line meets your interior cable line.

I work for a cable company that uses MoCa extensively and I'm a huge fan of it. I've seen MoCa give 200-300 mb consistently using MoCa 2.0. Next best thing to straight Ethernet.

Those are MoCA adapters and you need a pair of them to work. You would attach one on the LAN side of your modem / router, and then attach the other wherever you want your PC.

They use an unused frequency on the coaxial cable to communicate with each other.

FYI, It is STRONGLY recommended you also install a MoCA filter (http://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409066991&sr=8-1&keywords=moca+filter) where the coax enters your house, otherwise you'll be sending your MoCA signal back out into the neighbourhood

I've been using a pair of these to get internet to the second floor from my basement and they work wonders. You should also buy a POE Filter to put in where your coax enters the house.


Then you plug one into your router and attatch the coax. If you have a cable box, it has a built in splitter to let you hook that up too. Then you plug coax into the other one in the place where you want internet, and then the ethernet cable into your device.

Make sure you only get Moca2.0 adapters.

You'll need to get some filters to stop the Moca signal going back upstream.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=asc_df_B00DC8IEE65157404

You can do it yourself.

Assuming none of your existing equipment supports MoCA, you can get a two-pack of adapters like one of these:

Edit: Note that MoCA 2.x is newer and faster than MoCA 1.x, but other than that they work the same, and are compatible with each other.

• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7O3X0
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019MDRX5A
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008EQ4BQG
  
  If one of the devices already supports MoCA (TiVO, some Verizon modems, etc), you can just get a single adapter instead of the two-pack.
  
  You'll also need to get MoCA-rated splitters for your basement (or wherever the cable lines in your house run to). Either get one with as many outputs as your existing splitter and replace it completely, or get a smaller one and use it to split the signal from your main splitter into the cable for each room where you want to use MoCA. You want something like these, but there are many options with different port counts:
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00558UJTO
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00556LI1E
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M34OZ2S
  
  Finally, you need a Point-of-Entry filter to prevent your MoCA signal from leaking out to your neighbors through your cable connection. You put it on your cable line before your splitter(s) and it blocks the MoCA signal from passing through:
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DC8IEE6
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M4ODQTS
  
  
  Edit: My setup is cabled as follows:
  
  The cable tv / Internet line enters my home in the basement. I have the Point-of-Entry filter screwed onto the cable, and then into a MoCA splitter. Coax cables run from the splitter to various rooms in my house.
  
  In the room with my modem and router, I have a cable from the wall jack to the "coax in" side of a MoCA adapter. I have a short cable from the "tv/stb" side of the MoCA adapter to my modem. There is an ethernet cable from the modem to the WAN port on my router (this gives my router its Internet connection), and then an ethernet cable from a LAN port on the router to the ethernet port on the MoCA adapter (this gives the MoCA network access to the Internet).
  
  In the room with my TV, I have a cable from the wall jack to the "coax in" side of another MoCA adapter. I have don't actually use cable TV service (just Internet), but if I did, I would have a cable from the "tv/stb" side of the MoCA adapter to my TV. There is an ethernet cable from the MoCA adapter to my Roku to provide it with Internet access through the MoCA network.
  
  I actually use this adapter: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CZ6WC3A by my TV rather than one of the smaller ones, because it has four ethernet ports instead of one. I bought it before MoCA 2.0 devices were available. If you only have one ethernet port on your adapter but need to connect multiple devices, you can get a small network switch instead. I was just trying to avoid extra boxes next to my TV.

If you can't run an ethernet cable directly, MoCA is usually your best bet. Other options include ethernet over powerline or wireless (but both of those are less reliable than MoCA). Ethernet cables can also run a pretty decent distance (~300ft), so you could look at whether running the cable up through the attic and back down (along the same path as the coax) is an option.

Yes, you will need 2 MoCA adapters. On both sides, they convert ethernet<->coax. So on the router side you'll plug the moca ethernet port into your router and you'll have a bit of a loop: Coax->Modem->Router->MoCA Adapter->Coax. On the office side it'll just be coax->ethernet.

It's also often recommended to get a MoCA filter, something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6. Install this device as the first thing on the cable that enters your house. It's designed to filter out the MoCA signal so that your network doesn't travel up the cable and into your neighbor's houses. You want your MoCA network to be active on all the coax within your house, but not leak out past that.

One final small note is that MoCA works as more than just a point-to-point network. If you have more rooms to connect that have coax, you can just add adapters and they'll all join the same network.

Here's a youtube video that covers moca pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhCaZqxVAJE

The only moca adapter you need is where the cable comes into your house. The Bolt has moca built in. I just completed my setup. 1 Bolt and 3 minis.

Filter, MoCA "POE" Filter for Cable TV Coaxial Networking ONLY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_Wj9CwbB1WB7XB

They do make moca amps, but I didn't need one.

Good luck!

The fact that it was possible to move the modem/router means that you probably have Coaxial cables run throughout the house. This is a very good thing. What you need are MoCA adapters, they basically let you run Ethernet over Coaxial cables. This is the one to get, also available in pairs. At the very least, you'll need one where the modem/router is currently located and another upstairs where it used to be located.

At the modem/router, you'll disconnect the Coaxial cable from the modem/router and connect it to the input of the 2-way splitter that comes with the MoCA adapter. Then connect the Coax In port of the adapter to one of the splitter's outputs, and the modem/router to the other. Finally, connect the MoCA adapter's Ethernet port to one of the router's LAN ports.

Upstairs, where the modem/router used to be, simply connect the existing Coaxial cable to the Coax In port of the MoCA adapter. Connect the adapter's Ethernet port to an access point, such as this one.

That's the basic setup, but you can take it much farther. You can add a MoCA adapter anywhere else you have a Coaxial cable connection. In any room where you have a Coaxial connection and stationary devices on Wi-Fi (PCs, game consoles, TVs etc) you should add a MoCA adapter and gigabit switch, then connect those devices to the switch. This gets them off Wi-Fi, so in addition to giving them perfectly reliable connections it speeds up the Wi-Fi for the devices (phones, tablets, laptops) that actually need it.

Oh, one last thing you need: a MoCA filter. This goes at your cable's point of entry to your house, before the first splitter, and prevents your MoCA network from going outside your house and potentially being accessible from other nearby houses.

Thanks. Will these work?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OTO99VY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AYOSS4PW7QE9I&psc=1

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POE Filter. Very cheap, like $9 on Amazon. It just keeps your home network closed to the coaxial network outside your house (your neighbors, etc.).

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DC8IEE6?ref_=sr_1_1&qid=1450547819&sr=8-1&keywords=poe%20filter&sa-no-redirect=1&pldnSite=1

Responding in the order encountered, rather than by priority...
 

> POE Filter can be found here. That is on the line right as it gets into the house.

The "PoE" MoCA filter would ideally be installed on the input to the initial splitter, as doing so provides a performance improvement over having any length of coax between the "PoE" MoCA filter and the initial splitter's input. (This would provide a slight performance improvement and should be implemented, but isn't likely the cause of your Basement MoCA issues.)
 

> That goes into an Antronix 3 way splitter 5-1002MHz Model #: CMC2003BH-A Each output shows -5.58dB out

You'll want to upgrade this splitter to a MoCA-compatible model... such as this Holland balanced 3-way model. The existing splitter may not be blocking your MoCA signals, but may be contributing more loss than desirable.
 

> Output 1: Home Phone/Kitchen TV (Non Tivo Connected) Antronix FRA1-1510 Forward/Return amplifier/Splitter to get my home phone to work, One of the two Coax cables goes to power the modem for the home phone, the other for the non-TiVo TV

If you don't have any MoCA devices down this coax line, you should install a MoCA filter on the "Output 1" port to prevent MoCA signals from wastefully running down this line... especially since that in-line amplifier could create some unpredictable effects on the MoCA signals.
 

> Output 2: CommScope 2 way splitter Model SV-2G 5-1002MHz one goes to the guest bedroom where we previously had the other Mini and it worked fine (one we moved to basement) and the other goes to the Master Bedroom where a Mini that works fine currently is

Could upgrade to MoCA-compatible (e.g.), though shouldn't have any effect on your Basement MoCA issue.
 

> Output 3: Same two way splitter as Output 2. One goes to the cable modem I provided details for above and the other goes to the Tuning Adapter Model Cisco STA 1520

Per previous posts on recommendations for the tuning adapter setup, you'll need another 2-way splitter or switch to a single 3-way splitter, either balanced or unbalanced depending on your signal strength requirements. I'd prioritize upgrading this splitter, along with the initial splitter, to MoCA-compatible models -- though you might as well upgrade 'em all.

Also as covered in the previous tuning adapter setup recommendations, you'll need a second MoCA filter for your setup, here, installed as a "protective" MoCA filter on the input of the tuning adapter. (This would make it 3 total MoCA filters for your setup, if you also implement a MoCA filter to block-off Output 1 of the initial splitter, as suggested above.)

Further, if looking to boost the signal received at the cable modem and DVR a bit (i.e. 'Output 3' of the main splitter), at the expense of the other outputs of the main splitter, you could opt for an unbalanced 3-way as your initial splitter, connecting the low-loss output of the splitter as "Output 3." (Given the prices, you could order 2 each of the balanced and unbalanced 3-way splitters, then resell whatever you don't use.)

But don't forget to add a filter at your dmarc.
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If the detached unit has a coaxial cable run, you can try MoCA adapters, which work better than powerline. They're a bit pricey, however. You will also need to put a cheap filter like this one where the cable comes in from the street, otherwise any neighbors with MoCA adapters may be able to access your LAN.

If you have good line of sight from the location of the router to the detached unit, you can use a wireless bridge, e.g. Ubiquiti Nanostations. The smaller ones aren't that expensive.

What kind of "Cable TV"? Most likly they won't conflict, but some ATT and Direct TV systems use MoCA, so if you also use MoCA on the same band, they might conflict. Even if it does work, make sure you install a MoCA filter at the point your cable TV goes outside to the street. This stops your signal from getting out and causing problems with other people's systems.

Sounds like you're more educated on the matter than the average person.


As a guess, you might be able to "segment off" part of your coaxial cables with a MoCA filter or two. These effectively block off the frequencies used by MoCA from passing through that segment of the cabling. Obviously YMMV when it comes to integration with all of your existing equipment.
https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6

Thank you! Very helpful reply. I've just started reading up on this sub, and it seems like a MoCA is a better implementation of a powerline. Actually, it sounds exactly like a powerline, except that instead of using the house's electrical wiring, the MoCA uses the coax connection. Am I understanding the technology correctly?

I do have one coax output in my room (where desktop 1 is located) which goes straight to the modem. This room is also where the router is located.

In the living room, I do have another coax output for where the cable box for the TV should go. Since I've currently cut the cord, we stream TV from the Xfinity app, and I've returned the cable box. This means I do have a coax cable free in the living room.

What I can do is connect a MoCA in the living room, and use my existing wifi extender to broadcast a signal from the MoCA.

Additionally, I can also get a small unmanaged switch (maybe 2-3 ports) and use that to directly hardwire the playstation that is sometimes used for video streaming! The MoCA to switch shouldn't have too many issues, right?

Are there any MoCAs that you'd recommend? Amazon has quite a few.

I'm also seeing a MoCA filter.. However, I do not have access to the exterior cabling, so would this be of any use to me?

Actiontec is one of the primary vendors in this area. A few things to keep in mind:

1. If you have any cable splitters between the two MoCA adapters, you need to make sure they support the MoCA frequency range.
   
   
2. Place a MoCA point of entry filter at the main coax tap coming into your home to block external household MoCA traffic from coming in and interfering, as well as to prevent your MoCA signals from exiting your house.
   
   A few sample devices:
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200K02/dp/B013J7O3X0
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Holland-Electronics-GHS-2Pro-M-Splitter-5-1675Mhz/dp/B00P6VHLP0/
   
   

You totally can! You MUST use a MoCA POE filter somewhere between the ONT and where it goes into the splitter to go out to the rest of your residence though. Even if your coax is isolated from the outside world, having that filter is what made MoCA work for me everywhere I’ve ever used it.

Here’s the Amazon link...


Filter, MoCA POE Filter for Cable TV Coaxial Networking ONLY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_.wIVDbBHGWF0E

They will work in more than just pairs. What you would want to do is put a MoCa filter on the line where it comes into the house. That would stop someone from being able to put another adapter on the line and getting on your network. Here is one on Amazon but you can get them on ebay for pretty cheap also.

https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6

Get a MoCA filter as well, since your Internet comes in over Coax. This will prevent your LAN traffic from being leaked outside of your Coax runs and potentially pissing upstream MoCA equipment off that's upstream of your WAN connection.

https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6

I have Eeros and am a big fan, but it sounds like you need some hardwired connections. One option that worked well for me was using the preinstalled coax cable in my last apartment. Every room seemed to have coax hookups, and I could run it over the same coax that spectrum was running my internet connection on.

What you'd want is a MoCA adapter (or really, at least 2, one per end) to inject ethernet over coax and then pull it off elsewhere in the house. Had 450Mbps at my Xbox 2 floors away from the modem, and an eero beacon on the other side of the room for wifi devices.

I used these from Amazon with great success. You'd also want to put a high-pass filter on the incoming connection from the street to keep your network private.

As for wiring it up: Modem <--> Eero <--> MoCA <--> Coax Cable (the same one the internet was going to the modem on) <--> MoCA (in another room on a different floor) <--> switch <--> TV, Xbox, Receiver, etc. And the filter on the coax splitter outside coming from the street.

Get two PCs/laptops with Gigabit Ethernet NICs, and use IPerf. IPerf is the go-to tool for quick performance tests between two machines you own.

First try the two devices directly connected (with crossover cable if neither of your NICs does auto-crossover/auto-MDI-X) to make sure you get about 942Mbps of TCP-over-IPv4 throughput, which is the theoretical max of what you can get over gigabit Ethernet.

Then hook one device up to one MoCA adapter, and the other to the other MoCA adapter, and see what performance you get.

Note that MoCA speeds can vary greatly from one coax outlet to another, depending on cable lengths and splitter topology and many other factors.

Tip: Always install a MoCA "point of entry (POE)" filter where the coax line from the Cable TV provider comes into your home (before the first splitter on your premises). It not only keeps your signals from getting into other people's homes, it reflects your signals back onto your home's coax tree, which helps MoCA signals traverse splitters.

okay, connected adapters directly with short coax cable and lights flashed up

not sure what you mean, can you clarify?

this is the filter

I took the filter out completely (I need to ask my parents where the the cable enters the house at), and tried getting a signal downstairs again and it wouldn't work, any ideas?

OK, I really tried to do the Dropbox thing but I failed miserably ... and I suck at Reddit formatting, so please excuse me but I appreciate your help and expertise.

POE Filter can be found here: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DC8IEE6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That is on the line right as it gets into the house.

That goes into an Antronix 3 way splitter 5-1002MHz
Model #: CMC2003BH-A
Each output shows -5.58dB out

Output 1: Home Phone/Kitchen TV (Non Tivo Connected)
Antronix FRA1-1510 Forward/Return amplifier/Splitter to get my home phone to work, One of the two Coax cables goes to power the modem for the home phone, the other for the non-TiVo TV

Output 2: CommScope 2 way splitter Model SV-2G 5-1002MHz one goes to the guest bedroom where we previously had the other Mini and it worked fine (one we moved to basement) and the other goes to the Master Bedroom where a Mini that works fine currently is

Output 3: Same two way splitter as Output 2. One goes to the cable modem I provided details for above and the other goes to the Tuning Adapter Model Cisco STA 1520

Here is a problem ... in doing all of this I realized I can't trace back the coax to the basement one that is having issues, but hopefully with all of the information I have provided maybe some steps can be taken to alleviate that.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

what i meant was...

MoCA POE Filter for Cable TV Coaxial Networking

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DC8IEE6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Amazing, also is this what your're referring to with a point of entry filter? Would I just need one and where would I want to put it in regards to my coax lines?

Yeah, it should be a splitter. Do you know where it is? You'll want to make sure its frequency range is at least as wide as the first splitter. While you're at it, you'll also want to install a MoCA filter, like this in order to prevent the signal from leaking back into the street.

I believe this is the answer I was looking for thanks!

For the filter, something like this?

https://www.amazon.ca/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6

And I'd put that in between the outside world and my splitter?

I assume that you have a coax splitter wherever the cable reaches your house. That might be in a box outside or somewhere inside the house. From this splitter, coax cables run to the various outlets in your house.

It looks like there is only one coax port on the TG1682G: https://fccid.io/UIDTG1682-3/External-Photos/External-Photos-2853842

This means that the MoCA communication signal is sent back out through the same coax wire that the DOCSIS signal providing your internet access comes in. MoCA would then travel back to the splitter and out to all coax outlets attached to that splitter. Hopefully the splitter doesn't block MoCA signals. If so, you'd need to replace it with one that allows them through. Ideally you'd add a MoCA filter to the coax coming into the house before it gets to the first splitter in order to prevent your internal MoCA data from leaving your home.

You would then use a single MoCA 2.0 adapter like the Motorola MM1000 in your home-office with the incoming coax connected to its Network coax plug and your ethernet devices (via a switch or wireless access point) connected to its ethernet plug.

Yes, you need a splitter. The main line entering your house will lead to a 2-way splitter. One leg of the splitter will feed your modem, the other leg would feed the cable outlet where you have the adapter.

You want to use a POE filter BEFORE the splitter. Again, make sure you get a splitter that is MoCA compliant; it should be labeled 5-1675 MHz.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008EQ4BQG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These are the ones I have. I put them in myself. They were pretty easy to install. You go to the modem, and disconnect the coax going into the modem. Plug the coax from the wall into the moca adapter in. Then plug the moca adapter coax out cord into the modem in. Your router should be already hooked up then you just plug an ethernet cable from your router to the moca adapter.

Then on the other end, where you want the internet, you just plug the other moca adapter into the coax, and an ethernet cable from your moca adapter to the computer. Sounds complicated, but was really pretty easy to hook up. I did have some problems where they stopped working a couple of times. I think it was related to the fact that if you don't have a terminating filter the signal can go out of your house, I got one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00DC8IEE6&pd_rd_r=KV9MW2G56NMKNDZY9FD9&pd_rd_w=Kicrs&pd_rd_wg=BnTIO&psc=1&refRID=KV9MW2G56NMKNDZY9FD9

And plugged it in in my outside cable box and they have worked trouble free for me since October 2015. I like very much not having to depend on wifi

I recently utilized Moca at my parents house where they had DirecTV throughout the house. You can usually look up your modem model. However if you have Spectrum they do not support Moca. You can however use these adapaters wherever you want to utilize connections (one as a pass-through to your modem with the router connected to the Ethernet line) and the other where you want other connection.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7OBUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9JOMDb0X5DAX8

My coax lines were not connected on the back end so I had to trace the cables from where they terminated (attic of all places) using a Coax tracer tool:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ULX9C6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BNOMDbX347AAX

The COAX line coming from the street into your modem will need one of these MOCA filters to prevent your connection from bleeding out into other Coax lines in your area:


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BKOMDbWGSCMFN

You will also need one of these Moca splitters to connect your Modem and your other Coax line where you want the other Moca adapter to connect to:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0113JAN8K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_oMOMDbYY9R53C

If you have coax cables in both rooms, you could use one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013J7O3X0/

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I have a similar set up in that I have my router in the living room and my desktop in my office. I have coax in both rooms, but no cat5 connection. I used those MoCA adapters and they work wonderfully (including streaming games from my desktop back to my living room). You will also want to invest in a MoCA filter as well. I think this is the one I got: https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6/

the one "hardware" exception is you should make sure you have a MoCA filter at the edge of your house where your coax is... The MoCa configuration is by default set up without any encryption, you need a physical filter in line with your coax cable to "stop" it from going out beyond your own house back over where your cable comes in to your house. Otherwise your neighbors within 300' of that wire (or so) can buy a $12 device on Amazon to connect right to your network.

You can buy a MoCA filter on Amazon : https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1540161311&sr=8-3&linkCode=as2&tag=model30f-20 -- just install this then where the coaxial comes in to your house, or if you have a place in your house with a splitter that you know you don't want beyond that or what not, on one side of that.


Which, as it turns out can work as a convenience to you as well if you're just wanting to extend your household network's wifi too... you can buy one of these for $12 : https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Dual-Band-Wireless-Extender-Ethernet/dp/B00FKTMWDE/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1540161554&linkCode=as2&tag=model30f-20& and connect it to the same coaxial cable your Layer3 is connected to; it will use the MoCa from your main layer3 to extend the network over that... and then it will broadcast its own wireless network from there (2.4 and 5ghz). I have set two of these up, one of them outside in a utility enclosure box.

Make sure you're getting one that won't interfere with your cable signal. This one should work fine and won't require splitters.
You'll want one of these for the line coming into the house.

Unfortunately this is not my area of expertise. My experience with MoCA has been as a point to point connection which strips out nearly all of the complexity.

From what I can tell they aren't rare for multidwelling units.

The solution is to get a filter and place it anywhere before your unit and anothers'.

https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6

The following are the tools I used to add a new cable line for MoCA to an old room on my land:

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*NOTE: THIS SETUP DOES NOT APPLY TO A FIOS SERVICE PROVIDER.*

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(optional) MoCA POE Filter for Cable TV Coaxial Networking - This goes onto the incoming COAX Cable. Sometimes your provider does use the same frequency as the MoCA signal to manage with its devices. So This makes sure that your signal is safe to use, and doesn't interfere with your providers own management. This is optional because it depends on your layout. If you live in an apartment complex or area with multiple houses connected (wall to wall) , I HIGHLY recommend you purchase this to prevent your neighbors from receiving and possibly connecting to your network. You should connect this as follows: |Incoming COAX > MoCA POE Filter|

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2-Way Coax Cable Splitter Bi-Directional MoCA - This allowed me to split my incoming cable so that I can reuse the same line leading to the outside of my house. You can also use it if all your lines are internal, but I digress. It allows you to split and connect multiple rooms (while being safe for MoCA signals). Ideally it goes: | Incoming COAX > MoCA POE Filter > MoCA Cable Splitter > Every room you want connected (including router) |

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MOTOROLA MOCA Adapter for Ethernet Over Coax, 1,000 Mbps Bonded 2.0 - This is what you use to connect both ( or more) ends of the MoCA network. At the end of it all, this is how your network should look:

The internet comes into your house via | Incoming Coax > MoCA POE Filter > MoCA Cable Splitter > COAX Cable leading to MoCA Adapter > MoCA Adapter > Modem > Router (WAN port). |

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At this point your router is connected to the internet. The connection to the rest of your house is a follows: | Router via LAN port > MoCA Adapter that's connecting to your Modem > MoCA signal travels down your internet Coax > returns to the MoCA Cable Splitter > Coax split from cable splitter, leading to other section of house > MoCA Adapter > Device or switch |

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(optional) QUAD SHIELD SOLID COPPER 3GHZ RG-6 Coax Cable - I needed to order cable because the room I connected had no coax leading to it. If you need to buy cable, make sure you measure the distance away from the splitter, BASED ON the path you plan to lay the COAX cable on. Then add a few feet "just in case". If you don't need to run new cable, this is a non issue, and can be safely not purchased. Also, this particular cable was not pre-terminated, so I had to terminate and crimp the ends myself which may not be for everyone. Pre-made cables are available, albeit a bit more expensive.

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(optional) Waterproof Connectors Crimping Tool - This is the tool I used to crimp my COAX cable. If you don't need to terminate your own cables, you don't need to buy this tool.

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(optional) Rotary Drill Bit - I only needed this because I had to drill in from the outside (old house). You may also need to use this if you have to add a new hole in your wall, for a brand new coax connection. Needless to say, this is optional.

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(optional) Coaxial Wall Plate - I used this to add the coax cable to my wall. It makes it look nice but isn't "technically" necessary. Use it as you see fit.

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(optional) 3ft BLACK QUAD SHIELD SOLID COPPER 3GHZ RG-6 Coaxial Cable - This connects the coax wall plate to the branched off network (and devices) Use as you see fit.

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*NOTE: THIS SETUP DOES NOT APPLY TO A FIOS SERVICE PROVIDER.*

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If you have any questions, let me know. all the items I listed above can be swapped out for cheaper or more locally accessible items at will. Just be sure yo do your research first.

Would these require a POE device?

Filter, MoCA "POE" Filter

Does the Frontier modem have built-in MoCA capabilities by any chance? I had a similar situation in a three story townhome. Each room had coax, and instead of running Ethernet to each of the floors, I utilized a MoCA adapter to provide internet connectivity to the rooms over coax, since each room was already wired for coax. The cable modem provided by Comcast had built-in MoCA capabilities, so all I had to do was ensure all of the coax outlets were on the same splitter, and add a MoCA Ethernet adapter on the other floor to extend network connectivity to my office. Below is my current setup.

[Outside Incoming Coax]
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[Coax splitter in the Attic]
| -> (Cable modem on 2nd floor) <-> den switch
| -> (MoCA adapter on 1st floor <-> office switch

However, if the Frontier cable modem doesn’t have built-in MoCA capabilities, then you’ll need a second MoCA adapter to terminate the MoCA connection at both ends:

[Outside Coax]
|
[Splitter]
| -> (Coax Outlet #1) -> MoCA Adapter -> Frontier Cable Modem -> switch/router
| -> (Coax Outlet #2) -> MoCA Adapter -> Ethernet Switch

I recommend this kit: “Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax Adapter, 2 Pack (ECB6200K02)” https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013J7O3X0/

You’ll also want to install a MoCA filter on the outside incoming coax line so the MoCA network demarc terminates there and doesn’t extend outside of the home: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DC8IEE6/

Hope it works out! Let me know if that doesn’t make sense, and feel free to PM with questions.

First off - if you are going to run cable, don't run Cat 5...do Cat 5e at least...preferably Cat 6 or Cat 6a (you don't want to have to pull it out and run it again in the future).

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For my personal situation, it was near impossible to run the cabling without ripping up ceilings and walls. I ended up using strictly MoCA 2.0 adapters (the 2.0 are faster than MoCA 1.0 adapters)...specifically Actiontec bonded adapters (Amazon Link).

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I had to change out the splitters (get MoCA bandwidth ones...Amazon Link), and you want to add a MoCA point of entry filter where the cable comes into the house (Amazon Link). The RF cable in my house was high quality, low loss cable. If your house was built mid-1990s or later, it's most likely low loss cable. You can look at the information printed on the cable, and Google it to find its properties.

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After I changed out the splitters, I get 1 Gbps transfer between all MoCA 2.0 endpoints (I currently have 6 in the house). The MoCA devices themselves do all the magic, and allow you to have up to 16 devices running on the same RF coax lines.

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If you have satellite TV, you most likely cannot use MoCA as the MoCA devices use the common frequencies that satellite TV use over RF coax lines. However, cable TV uses the spectrum below 1 GHz, so you can run MoCA and cable TV at the same time. Just be cautious if you have the "whole house DVR" thingy, as the DVR devices communicate with each other on MoCA (usually MoCA 1.0...and your MoCA 2.0 devices will drop to 1.0 speeds if on the same RF coax line as 1.0 devices).

• Yes I made sure each smart tv does in fact have ethernet ports to connect to. So I am good there. The tech guy really confused me when I asked him if my hypothetical setup would be sufficient which is how I found this sub lol. He mentioned the installed booster might conflict things???
  
• Switch description states "Gigabit Ethernet Easy Smart Switch."
  
• The Moca I linked states in the description as bonded. I asked him if the moca filter would be necessary as well. He just shrugged at me.
  
  
• Which would you think to be the more ideal setup - switch or moca?

If you aren't familiar at all with how the coax is run in your house then I wouldn't worry about it and just get a MOCA filter. It's probably best practice overall anyways to go ahead and get one.

Here is a cheap one on Amazon with prime and free shipping https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00DC8IEE6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_M6jmDbVFF06WB

You can do a Google search alternatively for MOCA filters or check at a local Walmart or electronics store for them. This will connect at the Point-of-Entry to the residence where your ISP brings in their coax cable line to your house and before your modem.

I specifically know about the MoCA protocol devices but I imagine DECA and HPNA works the same or in a similar way too. Below video shows someone connecting multiple DECA transceivers together to create a bridge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xuAiP_qcUs

Note, I connected 3 MI424WR devices together which all use the same MoCA protocol. The protocols are not compatible with each other and if you choose a specific device with a specific protocol, you better stick with that protocol on future devices or it won't work. I chose the MI424WR as I had one already with my FiOS install so I decided to buy 2 more on eBay for my TV's when I cut the cord. Keep in mind, you don't need FiOS to have these routers/transceivers work in your home. I do recommend getting a MoCA filter and connecting it to where your cable comes into your house/apartment.

https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6

There are multiple versions of the MoCA protocol. MoCA 1.0 has a speed of 100Mbps, 1.1 is 175 Mbps, 2.0 is 500 Mbps, and bonded 2.0 is 1Gbps. Devices are backwards compatible and will slow itself down if there are any lesser devices on the MoCA network. YMMV due to the type/length/condition of coax wiring ran through the house. My coax going through the house is older (I believe RG59). This along with other factors unknown to me, the speed my routers report is around 220 Mbps throughput. This isn't the magic number 500Mbps or 1Gbps but its still fast enough for me to stream my DirecTV Now and Youtube without any buffering issues simultaneously on multiple TVs which is good enough for me.

** More information on MoCA Standards
https://www.actiontec.com/wifihelp/wifibooster/difference-moca-1-0-1-1-2-0-bonded-2-0/

This is what worked for me. Prior to purchasing anything, do a little research and see what makes sense for your setup.