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u/Tyrfinn · 1 pointr/MilitaryHistory

Where have I written that a doctrine is a set in stone battle strategy? Please quote me.

> Most military historians will agree that the operational level did in fact not exist before the first world war because of the advent of industrialization

Citation needed. Gerhard P. Groß disagrees with you here. True is the term "Operation" as we know it today can only rudimentarily be found in the 19th century. Nevertheless certain theories still existed even when under different names as e.g. "Grand Tactic". The maneuvers of French Corps ruing the Napoleonic wars outside of battle are neither strategical nor tactical movements, they are in fact operational. The same can be said for the movement of armies in the German wars of Unification and even for the US civil war.

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> There is a plethora of research and sources that I can give you demonstrating that bewegungskrieg can be treated as a doctrine because a doctrine is a mentality, [...]

Congratulations, you just proved my point: "Can be treated as doctrine" pretty much means the Germans didn't treat it like that. Thus you just admit that it isn't the German way of thinking and thus it isn't the German idea of warfare and as a logical result can't be their mentality. You thus compare apples with oranges while painting the orange in the color of the apple.

Quite honestly get this book and maybe this book. You will pretty instantly see how former German officers, who studied history and wrote for the German military history institute (and get their work peer-reviewed there) treat the whole aspect differently due to being raised in a different military culture. Especially the book by Gross is at that point quite a critique for German operational ideas and Frieser shows that several things Glantz wrote in "When Titans Clashed" are a very one-sided picture by Glantz.

Nevertheless the point stands: If you want to compare different systems, don't try to force one system into the other and than complain that it doesn't fit.

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> From what I understand you treat doctrines as solutions to quite specific situations whereas the video is not treating them like that, [...]

Again, quote me, because I'm pretty sure I didn't (or at least didn't mean it that way and can have expressed myself so that I got misunderstood).