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u/richieclare · 14 pointsr/running

They are all broadly similar in that you run a whole bunch of miles. There will be an increase in the number of miles you run in a week (called weekly volume) and a increase in the longest run of the week with most peaking at 20 miles in a week as a nice round number. Sometimes the plans are described in how many weeks they take to complete and what the peak weekly mileage will be ie Pfitz 18/55 is an 18 week plan with a peak week of 55 miles.

A plan will normally have a recommended base - this is the amount of miles you are currently comfortably running in a week. This might be something like 25 miles a week. Then over the 18 weeks (or however long the plan is) there will be a progression from the base mileage to the peak which is normally 10-14 days before your race. The last week or so of the plan is normally called a taper and it is when you do a little less volume to get your legs rested. The progression of the plan is normally balanced so that you get a rest week every 3 weeks ie you run a little less to give your body a chance to recover.

So that is the basis of most plans - they will tell you how many miles to run on a certain day. Variation comes in when different ideas of training come into play and each flavour of a plan will be a little different. A simple Hal Higdon plan will typically have a strong bias towards the long run in that most of the miles ran in a week will be in one run. Some people consider that to be an injury risk. It is a good starting point because the initial weekly volume and long run is quite low.

A more complicated plan like Pfitz will balance the long run with higher weekly volume - as a general guideline most coaches say your longest run of the week should account for 20-30% of your weekly volume. Pfitz also likes to do a midweek run that is longer than your average run but not as long as your longest run.

These kind of complicated plans will also introduce different types of runs like recovery (run super slow), intervals and marathon paced runs.

A plan like Hanson has similar mileage to Pfitz but with lots of runs at marathon pace to get you used to the speed you will run at. It also caps the long run at 16 miles but has an emphasis on 'cumulative fatigue' meaning your long runs are always ran on tired legs to replicate the last part of the marathon. But it is still basically similar to Higdon and Pfitz in that you are running a bunch of miles.

The purpose of all the different types of runs that the more advanced plans have is to train your body to behave in certain ways that will benefit you during the marathon. This is really the main difference between a complex and a simple plan and the difference between a successful marathon and surviving a marathon. You train more specifically for the stresses put on your body whilst running a marathon.

For me Hanson is a perfect blend of simple but specific to marathon training. If you want to get hold of their plan and have more information about the purposes of all the different types of runs then I recommend their book Hanson Marathon Method. The Pfitz plans are found in Advanced Marathoning. Both books cover similar information and are a great resource.

I hope this helps? Don't forget to come back if you have some more questions

u/Sintered_Monkey · 8 pointsr/AdvancedRunning

Ones I have read and recommend:

Jack Daniels
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F0X7U2S/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

Pfitz
https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Marathoning-2nd-Pete-Pfitzinger/dp/0736074600/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510544635&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=Pfitinger

Yessis
https://www.amazon.com/Explosive-Running-Science-Kinesiology-Performance/dp/0809298996/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510544911&sr=1-1&keywords=explosive+running

Noakes
https://www.amazon.com/Lore-Running-4th-Timothy-Noakes/dp/0873229592/ref=pd_sim_14_5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=3QK52ZDHZVX4K6QW383Q

Fitzgerald (one of several)
https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Training-Runners-Revolutionary-Endurance-ebook/dp/B000VMHHBW/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510544985&sr=1-1&keywords=brain+training+for+runners

Ones I have not read but have heard good things about:

Hansons
https://www.amazon.com/Hansons-Marathon-Method-Your-Fastest-ebook/dp/B01C6FBGHW/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510544663&sr=1-3&keywords=hansons+running&dpID=51L6b5-M7OL&preST=_SY445_QL70_&dpSrc=srch


Bill Squires
https://www.amazon.com/Speed-Endurance-Bill-Squires/dp/0977250504

Peter Coe
https://www.amazon.com/Winning-Running-Successful-Racing-Training/dp/1852239972/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510544703&sr=1-1&keywords=peter+coe&dpID=51lmDYFDyLL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

There is also an out of print (I think) book by Arthur Lydiard that is really good. And for that matter, I am not sure I linked the correct Bill Squires book. One is really good, while the other is an awful, watered-down version.

I have a pretty similar background. I ran in high school, then DIII in college, quit running for many years, got back to it as a pre-masters/masters runner. People kept asking me questions, so I started coaching for free. Then on a spare weekend, I got certified as a USATF level 1 coach, which is really fun. I really recommend it, since you're a T&F fan.

u/zebano · 2 pointsr/running

So first off (the basics) I'm assuming you're using a HRM given that you know your max HR, if not please find one or use the conversation test when running (i.e. can I hold a conversation at this pace as that tends to correlate very well to Z1 and Z2 running.

The reason you can't find most information is because all the best stuff is in books. Specifically, I think the first few chapters of Faster Road Racing by Pfitzinger or [Hanson's Marathon Method by Humphries would help you (I'm sure there are other sources but I've read these two ... I believe Jack Daniels' book also covers this ground). One other way to find this is to actually search for cycling tips as they seem to be the crew that first adopted the HRM methods, though the general ideas tend to carry over pretty well to running.

All that being said I'm curious what particular benefits you really are shooting for, off the top of my head the size of the left ventricle increases, allowing you to pump a greater volume of blood, the size and density of mitochondria increase as well as training primarily type I muscle fibers.

I'm not sure why you would need HIIT since your goal is a bit nebulously stated. I'm kind of assuming you lift or do something similar based on those CDC guidelines and therefore HIIT is a bit redundant but some strides would certainly improve your running economy.

The general rule that seems to be emerging for endurance sports is 80% easy running (i.e. your HR target) and 20% intense work per week (strides, sprints, tempo runs, fartleks, hill sprints etc.). Look for Matt Fitzgerald's book at the library for more information.


Regarding the slow pace... you will improve quickly as a not overweight 22 year old with no other major health conditions. Just be patient. For more information about HR aerobic training taken to an extreme where we still see a lot of progress, google "Maffetone method".