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u/[deleted] · 4 pointsr/programming

There is a lot of books on this topic.

EDIT: here's a couple good ones:

Free Culture

Here Comes Everybody

or anything by Noam Chomsky or Robert W. McChesney

u/carlio · 3 pointsr/technology

Despite his silly name, Clay Shirky has written some fascinating articles about the Internet's effect on culture and content, probably the most insightful of anyone I've read. There's one about cognitive surplus, which unfortunately I can't find because he's since written a book called that and reviews of it are drowning out the rest of the results! Here is the TED talk he gave though. Here Comes Everybody is also a great read.

u/Aenemius · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

I can make a few general points, yes;

  • The people who do go guildless tend to do so for their own reasons - meaning having someone "above" them doing the organizing simply doesn't appeal. That makes any attempt to recruit moot, because they're unrecruitable.

  • That unrecruitability generally ends up in one of a few categories; inconsistent schedule, willfulness in terms of play objectives, a preference not to get invested in the community of a game, personal/social issues such as anxiety, or (very very rarely) not believing any group is good enough for them.

  • When you do come up with a value proposition for them, it needs to perform perfectly without exception. They won't develop loyalty to the model, so a single incorrect payment or bad raid will instantly prove your failure, not their own, and they'll go back to pug life instantly, likely blocking and never providing feedback on why or what happened.

  • The managers of this kind of group tend to be very well-meaning, but that actually makes it harder. A "why can't we all do it together?" attitude, especially about distributed play like mercing, becomes either hard to maintain or frustrating to people who just want to do their own thing.

    Granted, this experience comes from competitive gaming rather than PvE, and it's not specific to merc work, so perhaps your mileage will vary.

    But "organizing the unorganized" is not ever a thing one person can enforce or structure. There's actually a huge amount of sociological work in this area with social media being what it is. (EDIT: Book recommendation, "Here Comes Everybody" by Clay Shirky - it set the bar for this kind of thinking.)

    The outcome of this is that if you're going for this model, you need team players who haven't found a team and don't want one. That's a heavy, deep contradiction that I just can't see getting mass behind it.
u/coconutcrab · 1 pointr/sociology

Hm. I hope this is in the arena, but Clay Shirky's Here Comes Everybody might be of interest to you!