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u/SupremeReader · 19 pointsr/KotakuInAction

In Germany they were being sterilized.

>non-slavic

A plenty of German Nazis were of Slavic descent and with Slavic names.

There were also a large number of part-Jewish soldiers, especially before 1941. Up to 150,000 or so in total. https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Military-Paperback/dp/0700613587

u/lud1120 · 7 pointsr/europe

Uhh... this is what various immigrants that want to integrate and blend into an other society has done for centuries. Long list here for those that moved to the USA or Great Britain for example some relatives of mine changed their name from a Polish Jewish name to a Swedish-sounding name, and nobody thought they were Jewish after that, despite one of them was leading a watchmaker organization. A bulk of German and Polish jews also considered themselves German or Polish first and foremost, but thousands of German "half-Aryans" were spared of life to serve in WW2 and sometimes even granted "full-Aryan" status such as field Marshal of the Luftwaffe, Erhard Milch while half-Poles and even quarter-Poles were sent to extermination camps as if they were fully Jewish. An acclaimed book was published on the subject by Bryan Mark Rigg

u/zenmasterzen3 · 5 pointsr/conspiracy

Good question, I haven't read the book:

>Contrary to conventional views, Rigg reveals that a startlingly large number of German military men were classified by the Nazis as Jews or "partial-Jews" (Mischlinge), in the wake of racial laws first enacted in the mid-1930s. Rigg demonstrates that the actual number was much higher than previously thought-perhaps as many as 150,000 men, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals.

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587

u/swampgiant · 4 pointsr/politics

"“He is seriously a globalist Jew, there is no question,” Trump continued. “But you know what, in his own way he’s a nationalist supporter of our fascist ideals because he loves our country.” In other words, yeah, he's Jew, but he's one of the good ones because he plays on our team.

This kind of talk reminds me of Hitler's honorary aryans. There's a book called "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers" that goes into detail with plenty of historical examples about the Third Reich's policies to make exemptions for certain "Untermensch". Trump's talk is straight out of Hitler's playbook.

For those interested: [Hitler's Jewish Soldiers] (https://smile.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587?sa-no-redirect=1)

u/Drooperdoo · 4 pointsr/todayilearned

No, my point was that he was a largely "irrelevant player". This movement preceded him. It was funded by very powerful people [like Rockefeller and Carnegie] back when Hitler was a starving hobo.

Hitler is now the poster child for the movement, but the reality is that he had very little to do with it.

We're all programed today to lay everything on Hitler's doorstep, and to do otherwise is treated as a thought-crime. It's not even permissible to show a wider context.

(Why can't we show this wider context? Because our side gets implicated in the larger dragnet. So we're encouraged to isolate Hitler. To pretend as if he acted alone. As if all these ideas of 'scientific racism' were original to him.)

I myself was shocked when I watched a BBC documentary on the Holocaust, and to see Germany's enemy [England] make a very textured case. According to the documentary, Hitler was a drug-addled basket-case with Parkinsons when the Holocaust took place. He would sleep in till 2pm in the afternoon. Most of the administrative decisions related to the Holocaust were actually carried out by Himmler. We have a direct papertrail to Himmler. Where not a single memo or document bears Hitler's signature, we find direct and unambiguous documentation leading to Himmler.

According to Albert Speer (and almost every other person who was there at the time) Himmler was the "true believer" in racial theory, whereas Hitler was a hypocrite. A demagogue, who (in his private life) acted quite differently than what his "official positions" were. Evidence of Hitler's hypocrisy even makes it into the mainstream media, at times. Like the fact that Hitler [unlike Himmler] took steps to protect certain Jews that he liked. For instance, his bodyguard [Emil Maurice] was part-Jewish. As was his cook. In addition, consider this Reuters article: "Hitler Protected Jewish World War One Vet": http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-hitler-idUSBRE8650G620120706

Hitler also infuriated Himmler by having Jews in his top cabinet. Men like Erhard Milch, Wilhelm Keitel, Walther von Brauchitsch, Erich Raeder, and Maximilian von Weichs.

You'd never know this from Hollywood movies, but Hitler also had 150,000 Jews in the Germany army. See Mark Bryan Rigg's documented work on the subject: https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Military-Paperback/dp/0700613587/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467915611&sr=8-1&keywords=hitler%27s+jewish+army+rigg

The reality is: What we're operating on in a Hollywood caricature of what actually took place.

We're told "Hitler was this racial hardliner, who never deviated one iota from his stated ideology."

The truth?

The truth is that that narrative gives him too much character. It attributes to him a twisted morality, but an iron spine that refused to deviate from that moral code. The reality, however, is that he was a hypocrite and a demagogue, who didn't really believe his own rhetoric. And he definitely didn't act on it.

In the BBC documentary I watched, they related an anecdote where Hitler gave an order to "Germanize" the new Polish territory they'd taken over. Every new governor of the region interpreted "Germanize" as rounding up racial minorities and sticking them in camps. One governor interpreted the order to merely mean 'Hand out German passports to all the populace.' When Himmler heard of this "outrage," he demanded that Hitler remove him immediately. Hitler refused.

It was Himmler (not Hitler) who was the racial hardliner, the true believer. And that's why it's significant that when Hitler was incapacitated with Parkinsons [and on 37 different drugs, including meth and cocaine], all the orders related to the Holocaust emanated from Himmler's desk.

And this is the problem with the whole Hollywood time-travel fantasy of a sniper going back into the past to assassinate Hitler to stop the Holocaust. The reality is: Unless that man was shooting Himmler, the Holocaust would still have happened.

Hitler could never have been born and Germany would still have had eugenics programs from the Rockefeller Foundation.

He didn't invent any of this shit. (Though it's popular nowadays to pretend he did--to exonerate our side.)

  • Footnote: The reflexive impulse here will not be to refute any of what I've said (or any of the links I gave as my sources and citations). But to bypass logic and reason by invoking emotional arguments: "Why, you . . . you . . . you just like Hitler! That's what this is all about!" "You're just a Nazi apologist!" On the contrary. I despise Hitler. I just don't grant him the dignity of turning him into Darth Vader, with all the dark brilliance of Satan. I see him as more akin to George W. Bush, when the torture scandal broke in Iraq. Read "Mein Kampf". It's not this brilliant work of evil genius, stuffed with diabolical insights like Blake's "Proverbs From the Bible of Hell". It reads more like the incoherent ramblings of a Sarah Palin. We have this image built up of Hitler which gives him far more dignity than he deserves. Camus wrote, "The West's ideal of masculine beauty of Milton's Satan". So by turning Hitler into this "evil genius," we're imbuing him with a certain measure of "masculine beauty" and "badboy glamor". He doesn't deserve that lionization. He was a severely limited man, and a hypocrite. And toward the end [when the Holocaust happened] he was a Parkinson's-addled basketcase, cut off from almost all administrative decisions. A figurehead.
u/myndzha · 4 pointsr/ImGoingToHellForThis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Goldberg - a half Jewish soldier of Nazi regime that became so popular and famous he even became a poster boy.


The Jews who fought for Hitler: 'We did not help the Germans. We had a common enemy'


When Hitler Honored Jewish Soldiers, as many as 100,000


Hell, there are even books written on this with all the proof you could ever want.


foto of African Nazi soldier


The idea behind the holocaust was not to exterminate the Jews but take the wealth away from wealthy Jews. War/genocide is the best disguise and the elite never cared how many peasants will die.
These aren't even my juicy sources, i was too lazy to dig them up.

u/CAPS_4_FUN · 3 pointsr/NoStupidQuestions

As many as 150,000 actually did:
http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587
Many were allowed to simply just go back to Palestine:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

The rest were considered traitors for starting the civil war of the 1918 and agitating the allies and turning them against Germany. Why would you allow your enemy within your armed forces?

u/Nomandate · 3 pointsr/politics

Instead of spending your time on people like him, read some interesting books. https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587

u/Wikkoe · 3 pointsr/ShitWehraboosSay

I couldn't name a specific source off the top of my head, but I just remembered seeing a statistic of like 3500 being thrown around. So I decided to go looking. In my search, I found an article Rense.com that says there were 150,000. But Rense isn't exactly what I'd call reliable.

However, there's also this book that puts it at 150,000 Jews. As it says in the description, "mischlings" are included in the total number. But I haven't personally read it, so it could be shoddy and terrible for all I know.

However, like the "muh diverse waffen-ss" people, to imply this is in any way indicative of the Nazis being tolerant, cool guys is completely erroneous. I mean, it says right there further into the description that they ended up fucking over even the Jews that fought for them as well.

u/WarHymn · 2 pointsr/todayilearned

Hitler's Jewish Soldiers by Bryan Mark Riggs

http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587

Shows how Hitler personally reviewed up to 150K records of men who were part jewish and signed the papers (that we still have) clearing the way for them to serve in the German military. So this does not prove anything about Hitler's family but add in the DNA evidence we now have and the fact that Hitler destroyed his father's home town by turning it into a artillery target range it seems clear to me that Hitler thought he was part jewish and hated the idea quite a bit.

To me the fact that he signed all the waivers indicates he wanted to give other young men that were part jewish a path similar to his own after he fought in WWI for Germany.

u/TTrns · 2 pointsr/holocaust

>I think you totally lack sense of proportions when you lament this as a "serious crime".

It is, by my standards. But it pales in comparison to the crimes of the Allies and Soviets.

>Rather, the Jews were victims of circumstances of war - circumstances they were not exactly innocent of bringing about.

Remember that some Jews were just regular people doing honest work. (A minority, I think 5-10% were manual laborers by NSDAP estimates.) Some probably remained NS supporters, even after the 1935 race laws.

The German Jews tried to get the international Jewish groups not to wage economic war on Germany. Emigration was obviously encouraged by NS policy, but it wasn't possible for everyone.

Some Jews had deep roots in Germany, and had fought in the first war... many mischlings fought for Germany against the Soviets and Allies.

(Although obviously we're not just talking about German Jews in the camps, but hopefully you get my point that we can still consider them as individuals.)

u/wiking85 · 1 pointr/AskHistorians

The German Jewish situation is quite complex, as IIRC there weren't nearly as many as 600k German Jews that identified as such, more like 500k.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005276
Over half fled the country before the war started and escaped the Holocaust.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005468
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005469

The tricky issue is that many managed to assimilate via 'Aryanization' process, perhaps as many as 300k:
http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587
The Nuremberg racial laws suddenly made a lot of people who didn't identify as Jewish Jewish and all sorts of things occurred to change their legal status.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws#Impact

u/Battle4Hypocrisy · 1 pointr/Israel

Group 13

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Judenrat

Jewish Ghetto Police


Abraham Gancwajch



Stephanie von Hohenlohe

Stella Kübler

Alfred Nossig

Chaim Rumkowski

Henric Streitman


Józef Szeryński

Ignaz Trebitsch-Lincoln


Hitler's Jewish Soldiers


Uncovered: new evidence of Jewish movie moguls’ extensive collaboration with Nazis in the 1930s


The Collaboration: Hollywood's Pact with Hitler

>"To continue doing business in Germany after Hitler's ascent to power, Hollywood studios agreed not to make films that attacked the Nazis or condemned Germany's persecution of Jews."


The Transfer Agreement

>The Transfer Agreement is Edwin Black's compelling, award-winning story of a negotiated arrangement in 1933 between Zionist organizations and the Nazis to transfer some 50,000 Jews, and $100 million of their assets, to Jewish Palestine in exchange for stopping the worldwide Jewish-led boycott threatening to topple the Hitler regime in its first year.

u/JohnM565 · 1 pointr/samharris

Kapos still supported the system. Whether they got a nice chocolate bar out of it or not.

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They knew this and they still supported the party. That's not getting into the Jewish German military members whom also supported the Nazi party.

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502748528&sr=8-1&keywords=Hitler%27s+Jewish+Soldiers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Gancwajch

Just because a group can find an Uncle Tom [a self-hating gay person like Milo] doesn't mean that they suddenly can't be bigoted.

u/diogenesbarrel · 1 pointr/todayilearned

The book cited is this one

http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587

Some 150,000 Jews served in the German Army in the WW2, even generals (Rommel wasn't one of them).

also

http://www.amazon.com/Racial-Ambivalence-Germanys-Military-Establishment/dp/1934703516/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1319870234&sr=1-1

Doesn't really fit the myths about the WW2.

u/BoozedBlaster · 0 pointsr/history

> Hitler put of resources to round up and burn million of innocent people was that too keep Germany warm?

German Jews had something Hitler needed - wealth. Yet another wealth redistribution.

There was enough Jews serving Nazi Germany, and apparently Hitler didn't mind

u/GigabitSuppressor · 0 pointsr/samharris

If that's the case why was there no Holocaust in the middle east against the Jews? Why weren't they completely exterminated?

In reality, of course, Mideastern Jews lived in relative peace in the region and were completely integrated until the white supremacist Ashkenazi colonial invasions of the late 19th and 20th century.

Many of these white Ashkenazi Jews were white supremacists and some were outright Nazis.

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587

u/drunkredneck2 · -2 pointsr/worldnews

Trust me i have. One of particular interest is a book called "hitler's Jewish Soldiers" Which states over 200,000 jews served in the nazi armed forces. The creator of the feared "Anti Semitic" SS division of the nazi's was created by Emil Maurice a jewish man. Also the financial director of nazi germany national bank throughout the 30s was a jew "Max Warburg". Gee For hitler to be such a violent Anti Semite there sure were alot of jews rushing to join him. :)

u/Nort_Portland · -38 pointsr/PublicFreakout