Reddit reviews Hyper 212 Evo - Prozessorkühler

This will help a bit

Also, make sure to use Intel Burn Test, Aida64, Prime95. I use all of these while I was OC'ing, you should stress test with each program for around 1-2 hours and do around a hundred runs of IBT. Do not run these programs at the same time! Make sure you have a good cooler! I'd recommend:

Air cooler - CM Hyper 212 Evo I have this one, amazing bang for your buck.

Noctua NH-D15

AIO Water coolers - NZXT Kraken X61

Corsair H100i

I'd recommend getting a temperature app like Real temp, but it has been known to be a bit wrong (check your motherboard for temps and the idle temperature will be different) As a safety precaution I always made sure my CPU's temp stayed under 80°C (give myself a good 10°C) Anyway, try and run your chip on a 1.25V at 46X multiplier and if it boots to windows you've got a average chip, if it keeps BSODing drop the multiplier/raise the voltage or do both, then just fine tune it.

It took me a good 7 hours to do my first OC (i5 4670K 4.5GHz @ 1.232V) it's not been optimised yet, anyway good luck and have fun overclocking!

Well well well, frenchie.

 

> 1600 isn't available for a month

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  > It's the same price as the 650 and unavailable as well, lol
  
  
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The stock fan does the job, but they are very noisy, I assume you've taken it off for a clean, so there is no way of putting that back on without new thermal paste. I stress, do not put it back on without a new application of paste! (Small Pea sized amount in the middle of the CPU by the way) The CM 212 evo is the goto budget cooler, i installed it in my old rig, very quiet, and very efficient! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8

Sound card: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006LFXBB8/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

CPU Cooler: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0068OI7T8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

Power Supply: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001GLFD54/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00

CPU: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007RUZKK6/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00

Hard drive: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004CSIG1G/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i02

Motherboard: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005UDITT6/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i03

Case: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004HGE5Q8/ref=oh_details_o04_s01_i00

These last 3 are being dispatched, so cancelling will be harder. The rest can easily be cancelled!

WIFI card: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006PMX964/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00

Disc drive! http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003SM3HH0/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00

RAM: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00569K7LM/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

Sorry about it being such a mess :/ the case, motherboard, RAM, are all if I remember correctly the same as the list shown in my original post. I like that case.

Do you need the ability to Crossfire?

Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K - £176.10

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - £24.99

Motherboard: Biostar Z75B - £69.99

Memory: OcUK Value 2 x 4GB 1600MHz CL9 - £30.25

Storage: Crucial M4 128GB - £79.09

Storage: Western Digital RE3 750GB - £39.99

Graphics Card: Sapphire HD7870 GHz Edition - £199.67

Case: BitFenix Merc Beta - £32.65

Power Supply: Corsair CX500W V2 - £45.98

Total including shipping: £698.71

Overall that would save you over £100 and would give you better overall performance. I would certainly suggest the XFX 550W if it were in stock, but unfortunately it isn't.

Oh well nevermind .. i should have compared prices earlier to other shops, they seem quite good. If you want you can check out these sites and see if you can get away with less money.

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  Your build looks quite nice, although i would change a few things. I would swap the Noctua Cooler for a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, which is not listed in pcpartpicker for some reason. You also want to change the harddrive to a 7200rpm (thats either a seagate barracuda or WD Blue) drive and maybe go for 1 TB of storage since you can save a little bit there. Also you can go for a little cheaper RAM (G.Skill Ripjaw).
  
  I will post a list with changes later, if you want.

Yes but you want to get an aftermarket cpu cooler if you plan to get much of an overclock out of your cpu you want something like this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212X-17PK-R1-Heatpipe/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1478257905&sr=1-2&keywords=212%2BEVO&th=1

One of the best at this price range and you see it in a ton of builds

You are currently over budget, PPC didn't pick up the price of the Hyper 212, which is around £24, or the DVD drive (about £10).

I agree with /u/razetheworld about the PSU, other than that, nice looking build.

That looks like a pretty ok build, tho you don't seem to have a cpu cooler.
Are you planning on buying an aftermarket cooler or just using the stock fan intel provides?
I would recommend getting an aftermarket cooler, if you will not be overclocking i'd recommend the hyper 212 evo.
The cooler is way better and more silent then the stock cooler and only costs around 30 euros (I've seen it sell for 20 euros also, but only in the netherlands.) Cpu cooler

Also the ssd seems a bit pricy for what you are getting,
if you are willing to pay 90 euros for that one I'd rather recommend a Samsung evo 850, it has better read and write speeds and it's 10 euros cheaper on amazon.de
SSD

Hey again! Okay, couple things: what's your budget? Do you have any older components that you can transfer to this build? Things like monitors, keyboards, mice, hard drive, CD drives, etc. can really knock down the price of the total build and allow you to get better quality components. It looks like you have a few things that you could upgrade or downgrade based on what you're going to be using it for and how much you want to spend. I think you're missing an optical drive above?

Basically, whenever you see something you don't understand about anything, google it and you'll find all sorts of other people who don't understand it too. Things like motherboard chipsets/sockets (H61, H67, P67, Z68, Z77, LGA 1155) take a while to sink in, so just lurk around BaPC and read forum posts and things will start to make sense.

i5 vs i7: The only real difference between these is the availability of what's called hyperthreading. Hyperthreading (available only on an i7) allows a CPU to simulate more cores than it actually has, and in 3D modeling programs like Maya or 3D Max it looks like you might actually get a fair bit of a boost, as well as any programming that can do computations in parallel. Not to say that an i5 is bad at these applications--you have to decide whether it's worth the £68 to you.

The commenter who said to upgrade to an "K" series processor mainly did so because the i5-2500k/i7-2600k processors are champion overclockers that have unlocked multipliers (basically meaning that you can change the set operating frequency from the stock 3.3/3.6 Ghz to 4.2-4.5 Ghz without sweating, making things run faster).

If you want to try overclocking, you're going to want a better motherboard. Do some reading about what kinds of motherboards allow overclocking.

Your CPU cooler is a bit overkill, especially if you have a non-overclockable processor. Processors always come with their own stock coolers.

Large SSDs usually only come on pretty expensive builds, as they're pretty cost-prohibitive, and usually are accompanied by a "storage" HDD anyway. You can get a ton more space for a lot less money with a normal HDD. Use the money you save, for example, on a better GPU.

You also have to decide how much beef you want on your GPU. The 560 Ti is a very capable GPU along with the equivalent AMD card--look into it, but for using a "viewport" in 3D modeling, nVidia consumer cards might be better than AMD? Quick searching didn't tell me anything. Check out the Best Graphics Cards for the Money link in the sidebar to get the most of your budget. Note that this guide is for gaming only.

Note about PCpartpicker: In your build, many of the components you've chosen aren't listed as being able to be bought anywhere in the UK, so they're not listed as having a price. If you can find a particular component on a site somewhere, it's just that PCpartpicker doesn't list that site, so feel free to include it anyway. These guides are a great place to start to start with a budget and begin putting parts together.

Here's what I put together that would be a sort of higher-end build (budget based mainly on the one you showed):

Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor | £168.18 @ Scan.co.uk
Motherboard | ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard | £113.12 @ Amazon UK
Memory | Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | £32.00 @ Maplin Electronics
Hard Drive | Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | £89.99 @ Maplin Electronics
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card | £198.84 @ Ebuyer
Case | Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case | £76.99 @ Maplin Electronics
Power Supply | Antec 650W ATX12V Power Supply | £73.55 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive | Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer | £13.67 @ Scan.co.uk
Monitor | ViewSonic VX2253mh-LED 22.0" Monitor | £117.86 @ Scan.co.uk
Monitor | ViewSonic VX2253mh-LED 22.0" Monitor | £117.86 @ Scan.co.uk
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) | £100.85 @ Ebuyer
Keyboard | Gigabyte KM7580 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse | £19.00 @ Dabs
| | Total
| Prices include shipping and discounts when available. | £1121.91
| Generated 2012-04-13 18:40 BST+0100 |

Keep in mind that if you have any monitors coming in, you'll probably greatly reduce the price. I'm a fan of the processor, motherboard, GPU, hard drive specifically. Corsair makes good cases, but you could definitely get a cheaper one that would serve your purposes. I'm not particular about the memory, optical drive, power supply, monitor, or keyboard/mouse combo. If you want to overclock, you're also going to want a cooler (cheap but very loved cooler here, but not on PCpartpicker for some reason) Also, you can use an Windows 7 upgrade DVD for a full install, and you can get a student-priced Windows 7 Professional upgrade for cheap through Microsoft.

Quite high-end:

Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | £236.60 @ Scan.co.uk
Motherboard | ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard | £113.12 @ Amazon UK
Memory | Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | £32.00 @ Maplin Electronics
Hard Drive | Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | £89.99 @ Maplin Electronics
Hard Drive | Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk | £73.00 @ Ebuyer
Video Card | Asus Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card | £217.70 @ Scan.co.uk
Case | Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case | £76.99 @ Maplin Electronics
Power Supply | Antec 650W ATX12V Power Supply | £73.55 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive | Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer | £13.67 @ Scan.co.uk
Monitor | ViewSonic VX2253mh-LED 22.0" Monitor | £117.86 @ Scan.co.uk
Monitor | ViewSonic VX2253mh-LED 22.0" Monitor | £117.86 @ Scan.co.uk
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) | £100.85 @ Ebuyer
Keyboard | Gigabyte KM7580 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse | £19.00 @ Dabs
| | Total
| Prices include shipping and discounts when available. | £1282.19
| Generated 2012-04-13 19:12 BST+0100 |

Again, I'm a fan of the processor, motherboard, GPU, and hard drives specifically. I added on a SSD, because it's pretty nice on a higher-end build to have the SSD as the boot disk (windows boots up in less than a minute!). Upgraded to a i7-2600k (note that you could put this processor on the previous build and it would work just fine, obviously), put up the graphics card.

So chew on that for a while, read some more posts about stuff, figure out how much you can spend and how much you actually need, make more posts here, and lemme know how it goes!

Hyper 212 EVO is an 'upgraded' 212+, you should be able to find that (amazon link)

tbh you might even be able to manage 4-4.2Ghz on stock cooler at a push. 4.5Ghz is easy to reach though.

1050ti is weaker than your 1060

Imo your best option for now would be to buy a new cpu, a new motherboard, 16gb ram and a cpu cooler (assuming you don't have one

And when you can, upgrade your gpu.

I'm assuming your case etc.. is fine

There are two heatsinks in the photo. The closer one to the camera is marked "CM" (cooler master) on the top, and is a Hyper 212 evo with no fans on it. The other one is a noctua NH-D14 and will fit in most ATX cases. It however will cover the first ram slot on most motherboards, requiring RAM used in the slot to be put in first, and be under 44mm high.

im not sure of the name it was a cheap case i had purchased years ago the width of the case is aprox 17 cms. I was considering this
CPU Cooler
as it seemed to be 5cm smaller than Hyper 212 evo. What do you think?

So, a 980Ti would perform better then a 2x970 SLI setup?

Couldn't find the "K" version from the 4590 but I did found the 4690K. 40€ more, is it worth it?

The 167mm Hyper 212 Evo would be a nice fit then?



Edit: I saw PCMasterRace Builds and the "End-All" says a R9 380 8GB would be a recommended. I'm I missing something? Since I do know that AMD is a better bang for your buck but I saw some Benchmarks and the R9 seems to be under the NVidia equivalents (mainly I guess to how the current market is made)

This is a much better system than earlier :D

The power supply won't be a problem (the CX series is really nice), and the semi-modularity of it really helps out with cable management.

Just check whenever you're looking at video cards that it won't be too long for your case.

Finally, other than an SSD which has already been mentioned, I would get a better cooler. AMD's stock coolers are really loud compared to most others. My personal favourite for cost:performance is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Again though, since your case is small, check the dimensions.

If you've money left over, you can always get a bigger case anyway. You can see cases here.

Yeah, having the airflow be all in one direction should help with circulation. I'd actually recommend something at about twice the price, the Hyper 212 EVO. It's probably the most-recommended air cooler, because it performs extremely well for the price you pay and actually rivals a lot of lower-end water coolers. It will work with the 650 and most new sockets on the market. It's really a phenomenal cooler and you can keep it for future upgrades.

Looks all good. Might recommend swapping that CPU cooler out with something like a Evo 212. Similar performance for half the price.

Did something similar yesterday, just without the OS.

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor | £84.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | £24.80 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ | £67.99 @ Dabs
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | £41.77 @ Amazon UK
Storage | WD 1TB Blue SATA 6GB/s 7200RPM 64MB| £49.99 @ Dabs
Video Card | MSI GeForce GTX 760 1006MHz 2GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI OC | £194.35 @ Dabs
Power Supply | XIGMATEK 500W Tauro 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply | £32.31 @ Dabs
Case | XIGMATEK Asgard 381 Mid-Tower | £32.98 @ Dabs
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) | £64.98 @ Amazon
Total | | £594.16

The case and the PSU are great, the PSU is actually £50 on amazon, so it's a great deal. Xigmatek are a Germany-based company, so I have strong belief they have good quality control, even if they don't make their PSUs themselves (neither do Corsair, for that matter).

PSU reviews: Review 1, review 2, review 3.

While Corsair is a reliable brand, there seems to be a general consensus that their CX Builder range is a bit crap. Xigmatek PSU uses cheap components too (as do all budget PSUs), but I'd say they're not the worst. Xigmatek use Teapo capacitors. In contrast, Corsair use Capxon capacitors.

(Approximate) quality hierarchy (descending order):
+17 Nichicon,
+16 Rubycon,
+15 Sanyo,
+14 Nippon Chemi-Con,
+13 Matsushita (Panasonic),
+12 Fujitsu,
+11 Teapo,
+10 EPCOS/SIEMENS,
+9 OST,
+8 Jamicon,
+7 CapXon,
+6 Hitano,
+5 Hitachi,
+4 ELNA,
+3 Samsung,
+2 Vishay,
+1 Samwha,
0 Daewoo,
-10 Tayeh,
-11 Rulycon,
-12 Lelon,
-13 JPCON,
-14 Evercon,
-15 CHOYO,
-16 Chhsi,
-17 Licon,
-18 JPCON,
-20 G-LUXON,
-21 GSC

Case is good, space for cable management, front USB 3.0. Of course you can still go with your Zalman, about the same price. There are a few options for cases in that range (30-40).

Case reviews: 1, 2

The ram here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0050119O0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1420239288&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=41djPpli2jL&ref=plSrch
The cpu cooler here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0068OI7T8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1420239489&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=51BtlnPPHSL&ref=plSrch
The hdd here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00FJRS6FU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1420239589&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=511mA6si5UL&ref=plSrch
The kb & mouse here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00CUBQH3G/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1420239702&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=41M0EyYjrCL&ref=plSrch
And the gpu here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00NPRH3P0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1420239842&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=51HrfjqONzL&ref=plSrch

I'm running this cooler: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0068OI7T8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00

Running at standard 4ghz, not overclocked.

First get an i5 6500 and a new motherboard . Then later get 16gb of ram and a newer gpu like a gtx 1060 6gb. Edit: you should also get a good CPU cooler, and a 144hz monitor.
Also, I just noticed the part asking what would affect performance the most the CPU and CPU cooler would be the biggest difference, then the gpu, then the monitor, then the ram.

i have the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO and i dont overclock the cpu

Id go £60 on the CPU, I also have https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0068OI7T8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 If you are interested in a different cooler for it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0068OI7T8

SO, would you go for:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00PJSFR7Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

Or

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0068OI7T8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&th=1

Can anyone recommend a decent white CPU cooler for around £30?

Or are they easy to paint? Like this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0068OI7T8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Get a better cooler

and the extrem4 is subpar, I recommend the GD55

Get a Hyper 212 EVO for the CPU cooler as well as a Noctua thermal paste for the CPU. The GPU is no problem, it can handle itself. Both GPU have dual fans.

Glad I helped.

Your temperatures seem to be completely safe. 71 degrees is absolutely fine for your components, and you shouldn't worry about it. You should only be concerned if temperatures start exceeding 75-80 degrees.

As /u/Dyzleksi suggested, you could move the PC out of the furniture if you have room. This most likely will make the PC slightly cooler, and therefore a little quieter. If you want to make a huge difference to noise and heat, there are many options for cheap but quality fans:

You should start with a CPU cooler like this. This is one of the most popular ones on the market, I have one myself and it is silent.

Any aftermarket case fans will typically do the job much more effectively and quietly. Noctua is a good choice, as is Corsair. If you aren't willing to spend that much, cheaper options will also be a large improvement.

Bear in mind that case fans greatly affect overall performance. How many case fans do you currently have? (These are the fans attached to the case itself, not to components.) Most cheaper cases come with only 1 fan on the front (intake). You should install at least 1 more on the rear or top of the case as exhaust, for a total of 1 intake and 1 exhaust fan.

Grounding should not affect the temperatures or cooling at all. It is a precaution you can take while handling the components to avoid damaging them with static electricity. Many people (myself included) do not bother with grounding and get on just fine. In future, though, you should tap a metal object such as the side panel of the PC before touching any hardware.

If you have any more questions, I'm always here to help.

No problem. Also, that CPU fan is perfectly fine, but it might get a bit noisy when your CPU temperatures get high. If the sound is too much for you, this is a much quieter fan at a really good price: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=lp_430499031_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1426309260&sr=1-2

Also if your case doesn't have grills on its top, you can always leave the side panel off as that CPU fan will be blowing it out the side obviously.

I wouldnt get a Seagate HDD. Seagate have the highest fail rate out of the major manufactures. I would go with this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/1TB-inch-Internal-Hard-Drive/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1426430414&sr=8-2&keywords=1tb+western+digital+black

Also get this CPU cooler instead of the TX3. It provides better cooling for only a couple of pounds extra: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426430458&sr=8-1&keywords=evo+212

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

I recommend the 212 evo

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0068OI7T8/?tag=pcp0f-21

Yeah, sorry lol. Checked what you were on about and found this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1427314030&sr=1-1&keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+plus#productDetails

seems pretty decent! Was just unsure if it might fit my motherboard (since it says it matches the pins but I'm a bit concerned space wise.

http://gyazo.com/f21aca0030890b7e0391216393c3783f

Here's my build http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/xJM3yc

In Germany They are being sold for 30 euros a piece though. https://www.amazon.de/Cooler-Master-CPU-K%C3%BChler-Heatpipes-RR-212E-16PK-R1/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_4?keywords=Hyper+212&qid=1554137787&s=gateway&sr=8-4-fkmrnull

Would maybe this also do the trick? https://www.amazon.de/ARCTIC-Alpine-Rev-2-voraufgetragener-W%C3%A4rmeleitpaste/dp/B002D2H9W0/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=Arctic+Alpine+11+GT&qid=1554133009&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmrnull#

If not, then I'll get the Hyper.

Modular means you can remove the power cables from the PSU that you are not using. Semi-modular is the same, except the 24-pin power connector cannot be removed. Non-modular works the same way and is a good £14 cheaper, but it adds to wire clutter.

You can overclock it somewhat using the stock cooler, but you're right, it would be a lot better with a CPU cooler. I didn't include one in the build because you don't need to overclock it right away, and I was unsure of you/your friend's experience with overclocking the CPU. This CPU cooler would allow you to overclock quite well, if his budget can stretch a little.

Well if you have the room, and it sounds like you do, get a big tower cooler like the hyper 212 evo. It'll give you about 90+% of the performance of the expensive coolers at about 30-50% the cost.

This cooler seems fine. Sorry if I'm asking really basic questions, but I'm new to all this stuff.

I have this cooler, slightly annoying to set up but a good cooler for the price.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-16PK-R1-Performance-Universal/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449654244&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+evo
Used to have this headset good quality sound and the mic sounds good, simulated 7.1 is good aswell for the price.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plantronics-GameCom-788-Gaming-Headset/dp/B00LNJZTTY/ref=pd_cp_147_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1PY9QKDZ31F262YH8NGT
WIFI adapter is just a generic one from amazon it's fine for the price really
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-A6210-100PES-AC1200-802-11AC-Adapter/dp/B00OT586RQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1449654430&sr=8-2&keywords=wifi+adapters
Keyboard there are some options but for £20 you might not get a great one I would recommend saving and getting a decent mechanical keyboard, it really is worth it. This corsair is a good shout at £65 but it is tenkeyless if that bothers you.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CH-9000040-UK-Vengeance-Performance-Mechanical/dp/B00DOTQ15M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1449654646&sr=8-2&keywords=corsair+keyboard
Edit: added wifi card and keyboard bit

not even?

one GHz overclock is a pretty significant overclock..

please, don't do it at all until you get an aftermarket cooler such as the Cooler Master 212 EVO.

I would get this fan instead http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-16PK-R1-Performance-Universal/dp/B0068OI7T8

That CPU cooler. You might want to get something better. It kinda sucks. This performs far better. Shame UK doesn't seem to have 212 Plus or 212 Evo. They outperform much more expensive coolers.

Buy the 212 Evo.

I wouldn't buy that graphics card from scan.co.uk. At amazon, the Asus gtx 560 TI 1gb is £60 less at only £164.

Also, the 2500k is only £2 more at amazon and as other people have stated is fully unlocked. And with the money you saved on the graphics card, you could buy a cheap aftermarket cpu cooler to overclock it. I'd recommend the CM Hyper 212 Evo £28.

You might also want to purchase an SSD if you have the cash to drastically speed up load times. A small 64 gb crucial M4 is only £60 and you can combine it with intel SRT for good results cheaply.

Links to 2500k, 560 TI, Hyper 212 and Crucial M4.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004FA8NX2/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004K8R8DA
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0068OI7T8/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004W2JKWG/

http://www.amazon.de/dp/B0068OI7T8/?tag=pcp05-21

Okay thanks a lot for your suggestions, I'll consider this carefully! I already have a good cooler that I can re use I think, it's this one.

Which cooler would you suggest:

• Liquid Cooler
  
• Air cooler
  
  Edit: I'll have to see what discounts I can get. The values given are only estimates! I know I can get about 50% off some CPU's

This one?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-16PK-R1-Performance-Universal/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452358753&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+evo

Thanks for your help, I would've comlpetely overlooked that

Coolermaster hyper 212 evo

is there any difference between these two versions?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-16PK-R1-Heatpipe/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481374339&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+evo


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212X-17PK-R1-Heatpipe/dp/B01ARGVNV6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1481374339&sr=8-2&keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+evo

Sorry one quick question, is it worth buying an aftermarket cooling system for this build? I don't mind spending an extra £30 on something like this if it's appropriate.

Have a look at this motherboard.

If you are not overclocking then stock CPU cooler will be fine.

But if you DO want a CPU cooler, then this will be excellent.

I don't check that much in game, i would say it might, but the cooler im getting makes it cooler than a polar bear's toes. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-16PK-R1-Performance-Universal/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1450889971&sr=8-2&keywords=cpu+cooling)

You can get 212 Evo for £25.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0068OI7T8

I'm looking to save up towards upgrading one piece of my build to make myself a bit more 2019/2020 capable. It's tackling everything I want it to, but I'm noticing that I'm having to make sacrifices (Very High > Medium etc). I've bought RDR2, waiting until they fix it before I even try to install it! Hopefully aiming for 100fps on a mix of medium/high settings but doubt it given how shit it's been :/

This is what I'm currently working with (minus the PSU as I can't find the exact model from memory, but it's a 750W)

Ram:
HyperX HX316C10FRK2/16 FURY Red, 16 GB, 1600 MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM (Kit of 2)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J8E90WS/ref=twister_B07TKM85RY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

CPU:
Intel Core i5 4690K Processor (3.5 GHz, 6 MB Cache, LGA1150 Socket)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-4690K-Processor-LGA1150-Socket/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=i5+4690k&qid=1573398043&s=computers&sr=1-1

GPU:
MSI NVIDIA GTX 980 GAMING 4G Twin Frozr V Graphics Card - 4GB
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-msi-gtx-980-gaming-4g-twin-frozrv-pcie-30-7010mhz-gddr5-gpu-1216mhz-boost-1317mhz-cores-2048-3x-

Motherboard:
MSI Z97 GAMING 5 Motherboard
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-z97-gaming-5-intel-z97-s1150-ddr3-pcie-30-(x16)-2-way-sli-3-way-crossfirex-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-atx

CPU Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooling System
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Cooling-System/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hyper+212+evo&qid=1573398375&sr=8-1

I know it's an old boy now but is my 980 still capable of doing good? I've been told by someone that I should upgrade my CPU first. Also, none of my components are overclocked, so maybe that should be my first port of call before I do anything else.

Thanks!

Another thing you should probably post is your motherboard model, as that can determine what you can do with the CPU upgrade.

I use a CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO for my FX-6300, which works really well. You might want to consider upgrading to the FX-8350 if your motherboard can handle it. You'll also want to get some good thermal paste for your CPU/Heatsink, here's what I use.

I don't know enough about laptops to suggest one, I've been looking for a good midrange laptop I can use at school as well but doesn't exceed about £400 (~725 Canadian Dollars).

I'd go for this over your current select. I would then replace the fan it comes with with this.

This ram is the same price but faster than your current select.

As for the GPU, if you like MSI, stick with it. I've had no issues with mine and it runs like a dream.

Are you going to be using an ethernet connection? If not you might want a wireless card :)

Nope, one of these. Not bad for 25 quid.

Would this be adequate for an AMD FX-8350 with some overclocking down the line? I don't mind the noise levels
Edit: I'm an idiot

looking at building pretty much the same thing, but without liquid cooling (this cooler). would it be recommended for this to have a micro-atx board/case or should I go with a larger case to avoid bad temps/noisy fans?

Yeah I was also looking at a Noctua NH-U12S But that is the same price as the Seidon. What you would recommend? Doen't have to be any of the ones I linked.

I guess the next step down would be a CM Hyper 212 EVO

you'll need a cooler.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Heatpipes-Connector-RR-212E-16PK-R1/dp/B0068OI7T8

That will work fine. Keep things nice and cool and is cheap.

Doesn't seem like it, found it for £23 + £4.50 postage. Scan has it listed for £27. That is more expensive than buying the 2600x. You might argue that you could get better temps or quieter performance with one or the other, but that's neither here nor there.

alternatively you could buy a https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0068OI7T8/?tag=pcp0f-21 this is cheap and quiet when not overclocking

Hey did a bit of additional checking. The Evo should just fit your case like this guy here - http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1605291-Looking-for-a-cooler-that-will-fit-my-SPEC-03

Your case is quite compact. The Scythe Mugen Max is 2mm taller, so it might just touch.

Seeing as you have proof that above the EVO fits, and is cheaper and not that much worse in performance, get that instead.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-16PK-R1-Heatpipe/dp/B0068OI7T8

Can anyone recommend a good cooling fan for my CPU on my pc? Issue is I'm not sure what sort of details I need to give for this.

I've been using my stockfan for sometime in my PC but it's now got super loud and my computer is randomly restarting, leading me to believe that its time to upgrade to some better cooling. As well as replacing the thermal paste which hasn't been done in a few years. But I know what to buy thermal paste wise.

Thinking of going for this as I can get it very quickly: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-16PK-R1-Heatpipe/dp/B0068OI7T8/

Yeah just get this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398115886&sr=8-1&keywords=cpu+cooler

It's widely regarded as one of the best coolers for the price.

Yeah sure! It's going on a ryzen 2400. The PcPartPicker website says it requires a mounting bracket
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooling System https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7.YACbVJX5VBF

Not much and they are awesome! Just a little on the tall side. If you need to go shorter, go with the T3 or T4.
P.S. You're welcome. Glad to help :)

Imo don't use stock cooler, especially when you want to OC.

Make sure if you buy 1 it's AM4 compatible.

Best price/quality comes with the Evo 212 (using it myself on my 1700x):

https://www.amazon.de/Cooler-Master-Hyper-CPU-Kühler-RR-212E-16PK-R1/dp/B0068OI7T8

Edit: (Didn't know it was the German Amazon..)

buying it all now but seems that ram is out of stock now. will any do providing its 1600mhz, dimm and ddr3?
like this?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-1600-Beast-Desktop-Memory/dp/B00A77202C/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1407254280&sr=8-5&keywords=8GB+DDR3+1600MHz

and this is the right fan/heatsink right?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0068OI7T8/ref=gno_cart_title_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Thanks for feedback :)

you mean this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/VTX3D-270-X-Edition-DisplayPort-Accelerator/dp/B00HEUL2ZG/ref=sr_1_10?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1411136902&sr=1-10&keywords=270x

http://www.amazon.co.uk/VTX3D-270-X-Edition-DisplayPort-Accelerator/dp/B00HEUL2ZG/ref=sr_1_10?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1411136902&sr=1-10&keywords=270x

and this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1411137026&sr=1-1&keywords=hyper+212+evo

Right?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1409527521&sr=1-1&keywords=heatsink

want something nice and quiet

Going to buy this or do you think i will need something better ?

Cheers dude

After reading through some benchmarks for CPU scaling on skyrim, i'd say to go for an aftermarket CPU cooler and an overclock to squeeze the most out of your system.
A Hyper 212+ would work well for £26.75, putting you at £601.26 or the Hyper 212+ EVO for £28.05 leaving you at £602.59

On the other hand, BF3 is almost purely GPU load, and an overclock won't help much on that.

Sources:
CPU scaling for Skyrim
CPU scaling for BF3

If you do get the ebay one, make sure you also get a decent cooler like the 212 EVO

You could go for the Hyper 212 for slightly less and you could save on the SSD or ditch it which if I'm honest is definitely the best option. SSDs are a luxury not a necessity. At least IMHO.
You could stand to wait for Haskell you're not going to lose anything except gaming time.
I have the Fractal R4 and love it. Spending money on a good case is never wasted as you can always use a good case again. I plan to keep mine for many future builds. Read the reviews on it.

I'd change that PSU to something a bit better like the XFX 550w http://www.dabs.com/products/xfx-550w-core-edition-80--bronze-psu-8K0S.html?utm_source=awin&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_content=AW00&awc=3044_1371733810_7db70d1a1f24e8f96f99a688dc0b7bec

That will also save you some money too. Money which can be put towards a better cooler like the Hyper 212 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371733863&sr=8-1&keywords=hyper+212

I would change out that RAM too for some lower profile stuff, those silly fins on that Corsair stuff are unnecessary, be it something like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008W6AK0O/?tag=pcp0f-21 or this http://www.dabs.com/products/patriot-memory-8gb--2-x-4gb--ddr3-1600mhz-viper-3-black-mamba-dimm-cl9-89V5.html?utm_source=awin&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_content=AW00&awc=3044_1371733960_8cc87971a000a75fba36c3826a8db7d3

Consider too maybe swapping the motherboard to the MSI G45 Gaming.

Nice dude, I only just started OCing my cpu on monday actually, it was at stock but as I have the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Cooler I heard I should be able to go further than I have, i'm gonna try and get at least 4.5-4.6. I'm gonna grab a H80i soon too as they're quite cheap + go for 4.7-4.8 ;D, you on air or water?

This case which comes in different colors and is much cheaper. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-Design-Define-R4-Case/dp/B008NFWNFO
If you don't plan on over clocking just get the regular 4670 processor, if you do I would recommend getting a non-stock cooling system such as http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0068OI7T8/?tag=pcp0f-21

You could buy some better fans and replace the stock ones that come in your case. As for a CPU cooler, if your not overclocking the stock cooler should be just fine, but if you want to be safe I'd get a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Cheap and effective.

Sweet.

Would a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO work fine?

This one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394974930&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler+master+212+evo
It doesn't say Socket 1150. My old CPU was a Socket 1155 on the board, and the old fan could fit there fine. Not on my new Socket 1150 board though.

its a fan not a cpu cooler

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this is a cpu cooler https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Cooling-System/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_3?adgrpid=57235164926&gclid=CjwKCAjwqNnqBRATEiwAkHm2BOw6wBnjQzIFF5nThyIKOIBNa4FnHkjsmTJlasSb0vboWoOiubfebhoCeGUQAvD_BwE&hvadid=291386135707&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1007901&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=3289967880305781309&hvtargid=kwd-296674820048&hydadcr=8430_1758239&keywords=cpu+cooler&qid=1565981788&s=gateway&sr=8-3

I found the same cooler (€110) for about 35, is it right? I'm not sure it's the same but it appears to be as far as I can see. Link here.

There's also a 212X for the same exact price.

Will the stock cooler suffice? One of my mates suggested this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/?tag=logicaincre05-21

Worth the money? What do you think? He also said i might want to take the 750 W power supply thats why I asked...

So Amazon.de or Uk should deliver to you. This is a very good cooler https://www.amazon.de/Cooler-Master-Hyper-CPU-K%C3%BChler-RR-212E-16PK-R1/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472931825&sr=8-1&keywords=hyper+evo

Would you think that this cooler would fit in the second case?, the description doesn't say that there would be space for 120mm fan

You're in luck because this is on sale

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0068OI7T8/?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Even if you just go for the CM Hyper 212EVO it is better than the stock cooler, and not that expensive, obviously you can go stupid but this should cool adequately for gaming. Use the stock if you like, but it will run hotter. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372692118&sr=8-1&keywords=coolermaster+hyper+212+evo

While ,if I remember correctly, the i5 6600k does come with a heat sink and so you should be fine.

However, (I will assume that you want to overclock as you have the unlocked version) the stock cooler will be pretty awful for overclocking and it is heavily recommended that you purchase an aftermarket cooler for that purpose.


Here is a link for a pretty good one.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-16PK-R1-Heatpipe/dp/B0068OI7T8/ref=sr_1_1_m?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1483403664&sr=1-1&keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+evo