Reddit reviews Iwata-Medea Eclipse HP CS Dual Action Airbrush Gun / Gravity Feed
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Features a 0.35mm needle and drop-in self-centering nozzle combination comes with a large 1/3 oz gravity-feed cupGenerous 1/3 oz sized cup is designed with a new funnel shape, which makes for easy clean up and more efficient paint flowThe Eclipse CS sprays heavier acrylics and Medea Textile Colors, while maintaining high-detail spray characteristicsSingle cut-away handleSpray pattern - hairline to 2" (50-mm) round
I believe the aero spray is modeled after the famous Iwata Airbrush in real life: https://www.amazon.com/Iwata-Medea-Eclipse-Action-Airbrush-Gravity/dp/B000BQKFAI
I did a lot of research/reading reviews/watching videos when i was getting my airbrush. I think I waited almost 3 months before making a purchase. The two that everyone always suggested to start with is an Iwata Eclipse or a Badger Patriot 105. I decided on the Badger. Then it sat on a shelf for a year because i was trying to decide on a compressor. Never really wanted to invest the money for a nice silent one. Instead, I bought a 10 gallon tank and some fittings and plummed it up. I fill it up with our compressor in the garage. It lasts me about 2 hours til I have to fill it back up.
If you are not worried about the noise, you can just buy a cheap pancake compressor from a local hardware store. I do suggest getting one with a few gallon tank though so that it doesn't kick on as much since they are loud as fuck. You will need a filter whatever route you go since non-airbrush ones usually don't have one.
List of the things you will need to buy:
I also suggest you invest in:
I am by no means an expert on this subject. I am a hobbyist and enthusiast at best. I always suggest you do your own research. Let me know if there is anything else I can answer for you.
I think it's cool you want to pick up a hobby your father had. It will be a nice reminder every time you pick up the gun.
I use this 100% for miniatures, and it works great!!
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Alright, here is the list I bought. It's a bit more than you want to spend, but this will ensure you can get going right away, and not be frustrated. I did a fair amount of research on different forums, sites, and youtube videos. If you want to know why I chose something, feel free to ask. I was going to bold the ones that you absolutely need, but I would say everything in the first set are a must.
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For the compressor, I keep mine at about 18-20 while doing miniatures and it's perfect.
I do 1 drop Improver, 5 drops thinner, and 6 drops primer and have perfect flow.
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Feel free to ask any questions! Good luck!
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Honestly would recommend the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS. Yeah it's a more expensive airbrush but it's a fantastic piece of equipment.
Pretty much would recommend these to start you off:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BQKFAI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001738DXU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
EDIT: I know the topic says cheap but with airbrushes, you pay for what you get.
Vallejo Model Air and Game air are both good lines for airbrushing your models. If you're new to airbrushing then buying airbrush paints are probably the best way to get started, but you can also just thin down your regular paints too. I don't recommend starting by doing this as it's better to learn to control the airbrush with paint that you know should be working properly before you throw in the new variable of paint thinning.
As for airbrushes, I always recommend the Iwata Eclipse. It's both a good starter brush as well as a brush that you will continue to use as you become a more skilled airbrush artist.
Go for it mate! I went with this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eclipse-0-35mm-Action-Gravity-Airbrush/dp/B000BQKFAI
Seems to be a fairly solid all rounder, really struggled to find a bad word said about it.
I recently got back into the scene and invested in an airbrush... I love it. It makes priming and base coating much quicker and I have now started using it to apply the layers.
I live in the Uk and went for this compressor
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Badger-BA1100-Airbrush-Compressor/dp/B00I68KJPO
I would think that you could probably get a cheaper one but it was on offer when I got it and only cost about £55
For the brush I went with http://www.amazon.com/Iwata-Medea-Eclipse-Action-Airbrush-Gravity/dp/B000BQKFAI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417043599&sr=8-1&keywords=IWATA+HP-CS+Eclipse
Ordered it from Amazon.com and it came from Japan, total cost about £80 a lot cheaper than I could find it in Uk
You will also need to buy a hose
Buying an airbrush is kind of like buying a guitar. If you buy a super cheap one it's difficult to get any good results out of it and it can put you off for life. So invest a little bit would be my advice.
I can personally recommend the following.
Airbrush: iwata hp-cs - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eclipse-0-35mm-Action-Gravity-Airbrush/dp/B000BQKFAI
Compressor: - https://www.amazon.co.uk/ABEST-Professional-Compressor-Multi-Purpose-Airbrushing/dp/B01I2ZUKYU/ref=sr_1_1?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1538751820&sr=1-1&keywords=airbrush+compressor
The Compressor comes with a cheap airbrush so if you want to try with a cheap one go ahead, but you will want to upgrade sooner or later and that Iwata HP-CS will last a life time if you look after it.
This is also a must - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00RVZG4X4/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B00RVZG4X4&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_p=8e5be0e3-b258-4b06-8b6e-695b24f935a4&pf_rd_r=4PP45CTWFKT5WD7KR20K&pd_rd_wg=pFBRH&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=j5dUp&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=d08662fa-c8af-11e8-a4e7-5f4df7c134b5
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But if you want to invest, I'll save up and buy from the big brands such as Iwata, check their 'eclipse' range. About £120 for mid-range. Then buy a compressor for about £60 to £80.
Check out reviews on YouTube
Iwata eclipse
Iwata-Medea Eclipse HP CS Dual Action Airbrush Gun / Gravity Feed https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000BQKFAI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HPuCDbNJMQDQN
Compressor
ABEST Complete Professional Airbrush Compressor Kit with Air Tank for Nails Tattoo Nail Art With Dual Action AirBrush Spray Gun for craftwork, cosmetics, tanning, hobbies, models, airbrushing, painting, cake decorating, customised clothing https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00JAJTKWQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_NRuCDbH2KC6K1
This one is not cheap, but it’s really great:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Iwata-Medea-Eclipse-Action-Airbrush-Gravity/dp/B000BQKFAI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=iwata+eclipse+hp-cs&qid=1567627674&s=gateway&sprefix=iwata+&sr=8-1
I picked up something very similar to this a little while ago:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01984G4SU/ref=sspa_mw_detail_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and one of these.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eclipse-0-35mm-Action-Gravity-Airbrush/dp/B000BQKFAI?SubscriptionId=AKIAIG7C236P5SNXU2FA&&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B000BQKFAI&tag=stucuk-21&ascsubtag=5c90045cdccc2801f0688ca9
I set up my desk with cardboard sheets and news paper, and ware a respirator. with the window open. this setup works fine. it's just a bit of a pain to set up and pack up. I love using it and the results I get.
the iwata is pretty damn awesome, but the cheap brush that came with the compressor can do 95% of the job, so the iwata is kinda overkill when ur a beginner
this is the air compressor, and Iwata makes my airbrush. Now that I'm looking at the parts, it looks like I spent about $250 on the setup. I'm a little worried about my air compressor; it's oil-less (which is good for precision airbrushing) but it stays on for what seems like too long, and gets extremely hot, so I have to manually turn it off every 10 minutes -- it may be defective.
Im a big fan of Iwata airbrushes. the Eclipse HP-CS is a good mid range AB. More expensive than what you paid for your chinese one I'm sure. But its not super expensive, and you'll notice the quality difference right away.
I didn't mean that you're going to sand most of the gloss coat off. I just mean that you sand it enough that you don't see glossiness anywhere on the piece. The gloss coat will usually have a little bit of an uneven surface after its sprayed on. some times this uneven surface will be very pronounced, which is called orange peel, because it looks like the skin of an orange. Even if you did a really good job spraying, there will be some slight unevenness. Make a couple quick passes of sand paper and you'll see the high spots will no longer be glossy and the low spots will remain glossy. But if you keep sanding, all those high spots will be leveled off and you'll create a flat smooth surface. At that point, all the glossiness will be gone. It sounds counter-intuitive, I know. But Now that the surface is flat and smooth the polishing compound will bring the gloss back.
found this vid real quick, illustrating wet sanding and orange peel on a larger scale (a car). it wont be this pronounced on a model but it will be there. They don't show how to buff, but you do see them wet sanding. It's the same basic concept, just on small pieces.
I should also mention that if you are only wanting to do a gloss coat for proposes of applying decals and panel washes, and are just going to spray a flat clear over that, don't bother with all this. just spray it and leave it. it'll be glossy enough to do that stuff. But if you want you end finish to be super glossy, wet sanding and polishing is the way to go.
I probably am not the person to ask. I started (and still occasionally use) with very cheap airbrushes (my first one, if you buy it separately on Amazon costs less than $20 USD) and only recently upgraded to a much nicer one in the last year or so.
The kit I started with was this, this exact kit (Master G23 and a small, tankless compressor), four years ago.
https://www.amazon.com/Master-Airbrush-MAS-KIT-VC16-B22-Compressor/dp/B00BF0MW9G/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1468020628&sr=8-3&keywords=master+airbrush+kit
I still use the compressor (and have no others).
My current airbrush which sees most daily use is this one (a Badger Sotar 20/20): https://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-2020-2F-Gravity-Airbrush/dp/B000BROVIO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468020664&sr=8-1&keywords=badger+sotar
At the time I bought it, I bought it for half that price. It's a great brush, but it isn't for beginners. ~~~~
Now, most people on this forum are going to cry foul and claim that the Master G23 is a bad brush, oh no, it's cheap chinese made crap and whatever. There's some truth to this. They are much more maintenance intensive, and less precise, but they are cheap and serviceable if you maintain them religiously. I airbrushed my models for nearly two years with just the cheap chinese airbrush, and if you clean it regularly, it'll work fine for most jobs aside from maybe, 1/72 German Camo.
The usual one I recommend is this for beginners after the usual handwringing about those "horrid Chinese airbrushes."
https://www.amazon.com/Gravity-Feed-Dual-Action-Airbrush/dp/B004INERK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468020757&sr=8-1&keywords=iwata+CN
It's a chinese made airbrush sold by a Japanese company, Iwata, who makes their own line of high end airbrushes. Now, some users even cry foul about that, saying that because it's Chinese made, it's not any good even if the quality control is a bit better.
Fine, in that case, one that is often recommended is this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Iwata-Medea-Eclipse-Action-Airbrush-Gravity/dp/B000BQKFAI
Most people wouldn't use the compressor I use; they prefer the stuff that either (1) has a tank (2) has more adjustability in pressure (3) has a water filter/moisture trap. But my compressor has worked just fine for the last few years.
However, the bottom line? I'd say get the best you can afford.
Here's the maintenance guide I wrote for that really cheap Chinese airbrush a while back:
https://www.reddit.com/r/modelmakers/comments/2yzw9o/master_g23type_airbrush_takedown_and_cleaning/
If you are unwilling to do this every single time you use that cheap chinese airbrush, don't buy one.
Good sites for airbrush reviews include Don's Airbrush Tips, which is on the sidebar. Note that he reviewed a Master G23, and didn't have very awful things to say about it, contrary to what most people will say on this sub.
If you look through my post history, any model that was posted prior to January 2016 was painted with a Master G23, if it wasn't brush painted.
As for brush painting, this is what happened when I did a project in 1/144 scale solely using a brush (aside from a sprayed primer, which you can get in a can).
It tells you what I did, and how. If that photo's results are acceptable to you, then brush painting may work for you. I don't really recommend it, since airbrushing is honestly just easier, faster, and in most respects, better.
https://www.reddit.com/r/modelmakers/comments/2esizj/fa18e_1144_painted_entirely_with_hairy_sticks/.
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TL:DR; The cheapest airbrush combo you can buy that works reasonably well in my opinion is the Master G23 with the tankless, square shaped compressor. However, if you can afford better, buy better,** not the least of which is because every single person on here except a few people will claim that those Chinese made brushes are garbage (some of the actually are, some are not). The set costs about 50 USD (a little more if you don't have prime shipping), whereas a good "quality" brush (even if still Chinese made) may cost about 50 USD to 100+ just for the brush alone. Brush painting is possible, but difficult for beginners. However, you also will still need it because you won't airbrush every last part.
If you're just starting out and don't yet want to invest in an airbrush, get spray cans of the colors you need for the camo scheme and brush paint everything else (which is what you'd normally do anyway, except you'd replace spray cans with airbrushed paint). If you don't even want to buy those, then I'd recommend a can of Tamiya gray primer, and then Model Master Acrylic paints for that model, because those paints are very brushable once you have a good layer of primer laid down.
The reason you don't buy that SprayCanBrush is because it's the worst of both worlds. It's not as controllable as an airbrush, but just as expensive as a spray can, and it doesn't have anywhere near the precision of even one of those cheap Chinese double action airbrushes that everyone likes to rag on all the time. Propellant is also expensive. If you're buying an airbrush, also don't bother with the ones that give you a hookup to a bottle of canned air; that's like buying a airbrush to make yourself a spray can.
I must had posted in the wrong section.
I did some research on gunpla before I got ready to invest into it.
So I was wondering what airbrush should I pick up as a beginner.
I'm looking to use these airbrush for everything and finer detailing on models.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BROVIO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1451755063&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=badger+20+20&dpPl=1&dpID=31BZaLebDGL&ref=plSrch
The iwata eclipse is a recurring brand I've seen on bunch of blogs and seems to be the most popular
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BQKFAI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1451755023&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=iwata+eclipse&dpPl=1&dpID=41EIKj727OL&ref=plSrch
So which one should I buy? Can anyone recommend any of these?
Last at least the air compressor and other parts.
I've also seen this recommended on one blog:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AQK78/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Apparently it's better then a hobby's air compressor cause of the constant air flow you will get?
I was wondering what kind of hose and connectors I would need for either the badger or iwata if I picked up the air compressor.
Sorry for any spelling or grammar mistakes in advance as I'm typing on my phone.
Anyone have any opinions on the Iwata Eclipse Airbrush and Iwata Silver Jet compressor?
Thinking about getting those to start airbrushing
Linked below:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BQKFAI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2WHQECH5ANNLK&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BQPNVY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A2TF0EOVMPEXJK&psc=1
I would say that you would only really see benefits with a higher quality air compressor if you've already got your skill using an airbrush really dialed in until then a cheaper airbrush would really suffice. I'll entirely honest I've only been airbrushing my miniatures for a couple of months now but I've had the honor of using my friends high quality compressor but I've also been using my cheap Master Compressor. If i'm being entirely honest with you at my skill level I can't even tell the slightest difference between the two. My much more skilled friend can notice a huge difference between the two compressors but again, he's been airbrushing for almost five years. Now for a beginner I am using a slightly nicer airbrush, I'm using the Iwata HP-CS. I was recommended by him that I get the nicer airbrush and the cheaper air-compressor because the fine detail work that you're almost constantly doing with miniatures, he argued that the airbrush would have much higher returns per dollar than the more expensive air-compressor. I hope that helped a little. Take that all with a grain of salt because Like I said before I'm new and these are just my personal observations.
Make sure you buy a hose if you buy a compressor without one (eg. if you buy used).
You will want to buy a respirator.
You can also jump-start his accessories list by including some cleaning supplies (spray-out pot, airbrush cleaner), as well as some paints/primer/topcoat (tamiya, mr color, vallejo, alclad ii, etc.).
I believe this can all be done with a budget of 300$ (assuming US). At this point, he could start spraying that day if he wanted.
EDIT: I use this Master Airbrush Compressor and the Iwata HP-CS airbrush. I've been happy with them so far, but I do wish I spent a little more on a compressor with a tank (as /u/7x13 recommends).
Airbrush: https://www.amazon.com/Iwata-Medea-Eclipse-Action-Airbrush-Gravity/dp/B000BQKFAI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520896361&sr=8-3&keywords=iwata+eclipse+hp-cs
Compressor: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0038D38AA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hose: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002FDX36I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These are all that I use and have been nothing but happy with them. I'm one of those with the mindset that if I'm going to invest, I'm going to invest - and the Iwata Eclipse is praised far and wide as one of, if not the, best airbrush out there.
I bought the airbrush in the first link (it looks the same in the second link) and the button to release the air broke on the second day of using it :/. I now have this one, and it's working well. This one is also good.
I see two different Iwata Eclipse listed on Amazon with a price difference of $5? Whats the difference and which one should I get?
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https://www.amazon.com/Iwata-Eclipse-Hp-Cs-W-Airhose/dp/B00695CY54/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1540928163&sr=8-2&keywords=iwata+eclipse&dpID=51odG-D4KWL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
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https://www.amazon.com/d/Airbrush-Materials/Iwata-Medea-Eclipse-Action-Airbrush-Gravity/B000BQKFAI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1540928163&sr=8-3&keywords=iwata+eclipse
Thank you very much for the thorough reply! I do need to work on highlighting. This is the first time I started actually painting the highlights on instead of dry-brushing everything. Also, I am waiting on a hose for my new Iwata-Medea airbrush and I think that will help me make the future vehicles look even better.
I have an Iwata eclipse airbrush that I've had for probably 8 years now. It's a great airbrush.
http://www.amazon.com/Iwata-Medea-Eclipse-Action-Airbrush-Gravity/dp/B000BQKFAI/ref=sr_1_8?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1406324569&sr=1-8
It's the same brand and probably model that Mache is using in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuWz2a1HAhQ