Reddit reviews Kidde Carbon Monoxide Alarm Detector | Digital Display | Battery Operated | Model KN-COPP-B-LPM

This one is on sale on Amazon right now for 63% off, $20. It has a digital read out and good reviews. I just bought one. I know you have Prime, order it you lazy ass.

Yikes. Always make sure your hot water heater and furnace are properly vented to outside, and remember that a $25 device can save your life. For maximum peace of mind, place a carbon monoxide detector in the main living area and in each bedroom.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Y6V5CI/ref=twister_B00I0BSD5K

they are very cheap.

I got about 60 of the 1 lb canisters and 2 of the 20 lb tanks in one of these deck boxes:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rubbermaid-73-gal-Medium-Deck-Box-with-Seat-FG5F2100OLVSS/202523344

The two 20 lbs go in a corner each, and then the 1 lbs are arranged around them on the floor. Then I cut a piece of plywood in the shape of the inside of the deck box, with cutouts for the two 20 lb tanks, to make a second story which is laid on top of the first layer of 1 lb canisters. Then I get a second layer of the 1 lbs in there, and it's about 60 of those plus 2 x 20 lbs, makes approx 100 lbs total, give or take. It's been a couple of years now, and they seem to last very well in there. I also keep some adaptors and hoses so I can hook the 20 lbs up to the Little Buddy heaters and the propane stove etc. I keep the deck box on the lower deck behind the house in a spot under the upper deck so that it doesn't get a lot of direct sunlight. I think it's probably better if it doesn't get too hot. Also, if anything leaks, then propane is heavier than air, so you want the path to be away from the house, not down into your crawlspace or basement. Finally I recently got a "WARNING PROPANE" sticker (from Amazon) for the firemen should there ever be a fire around my house. They should know about that amount of propane, for obvious reasons.

One last thing: Consider getting a couple of battery powered carbon monoxide detectors, just for peace of mind, e.g.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y6V5CI/

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-Battery-Operated-Carbon-Monoxide-Digital/dp/B004Y6V5CI

That is the one I have in my car and my house.

I got one after a father and son in my city died while waiting for their car to warm up. They didn't know they had a leak in their exhaust and the CO doesn't smell like exhaust. It has no smell.

Gonna risk the /hailcorporate tag but now is a good a time as any to stock up on CO detectors. MA code mandates at least one for every floor in your house (seems a bit overkill since CO doesn't rise) but one near your furnace is a bare minimum

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Carbon monoxide can be produced by any fire. If you are heating anything by "gas" in your house be it propane, butane or whatever, you should have a carbon monoxide monitor. You can find them for about $20-30 dollars. amazon link to a CO detector.

Symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning include:
-Dull headache
-Weakness
-Dizziness
-Nausea
-Vomiting
-Shortness of breath
-Confusion
-Blurred vision
-Loss of consciousness

I admit a couple of people to the hospital a year who get carbon monoxide poisoning. It's never pretty and the treatment is limited. Hyperbaric oxygen is one of the treatments but many hospitals do not have this option so they resort to putting a mask on the person who inhaled the poison till they can call other hospitals till they find one that has the hyperbaric oxygen treatment.

Even if you have a "gas" furnace, water heater, stove or brewery in your house you should have one of these. The molecule has no smell and by the time you notice the effects its usually either too late and its very advanced.

Thank you for sharing this. I am buying Co2 detectors now

edit: bought two http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y6V5CI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

its like a smoke detector, just stick it in there around head level :) Mine sits on counter near my bed.

Just installed mine a few weeks ago. I haven't ran my heater with it yet though to see how much venting will be appropriate as I live in Phx and it's already heating up haha. But yea I have a mr heater buddy and hear they are great. I always keep a few books on hand. Couple traveling books (kerouac/hemingway/etc), something spiritual for when I'm in the woods (tao te ching) haha, something about astronomy, music theory, shit I can learn from.

> Speaking as an electrician

Thanks very much! That is good to hear coming from a professional. I was proud of my little workaround hack, but I have never read about it anywhere else so I wondered if I was missing something important... but it really does work (I've used it during a couple of outages now). One useful thing to do is to use a little label maker to label the relevant outlets inside the house with "GENERATOR", just to make clear that they aren't usually going to be working. It's also good to make sure that whatever extension cords you get for coming from the generator to the house inlets has a round end for where it's going into the inlet. Some extension cords have the additional tab sticking up which makes it hard or impossible to fit into the inlet socket. Kind of hard to describe, but you'd know exactly what I mean if you see the inlet. Unfortunately the ones I got don't seem to be available any more on Amazon, the product page has gone away, but they looked a lot like these:

https://www.amazon.com/ParkPower-Marinco-150BBI-RV-Charger-125-Volt/dp/B000NV0V8C/

And the extension cords for generator to inlet are these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009IAXSW/

Notice the female end of the extension cord is round, so it'll fit inside the inlet socket. I think I have the 100 foot and another 50 foot of the 10 ga, for getting from the generator on the rear deck to the two different inlets on the house. The garage one is a bit further away, toward the front of the house, so I need the 100' for that. Usually I'd try not to run so long, but when running the generator in an emergency I'd much prefer for it to be hidden in the rear of the house, not visible to the road. Being 10 ga gives me a bit more room to play with 100' length without losing too much power to the cord.

Other than those, it's a pretty standard job that anybody who's a little bit handy can do - you might also need a 1 7/8" hole saw for the inlet, assuming you have wood walls (we have cedar siding). I used something like 10 or 12 ga house wiring between the wall - I think it might be 10 ga since I remember hemming and hawing on which to use, I believe I went heavier just to be on the safe side. It's a bit intimidating for a non-professional to work with wiring stuff up, but since it's not connected to the actual house wiring, that takes some of the fear out. Just have to make sure you get all the right wires in the right places (not too difficult) and tighten everything up. Also a little bit stressful hacking holes in your exterior house wall, but once it's all sealed up again it's pretty cool knowing you can now get power inside without having to leave the window or door open.

I also have a Kryptonite Stronghold anchor in the back yard next to the deck, for chaining the generators up while they are running, so nobody can just pick them up and run off (a downside of having portable generators is that they are, well, portable):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LF903M/

I dug a hole and then filled it with high stress concrete, then left it to dry for a week or two, then drilled the holes for the bolts and installed the anchor. For chain, I used the strongest stuff I could find at Home Depot. The padlock likewise - just the most beefy, secure one I could find. On the generators themselves, I have installed the security addition to the handle:

https://www.amazon.com/Honda-63230-Z07-010AH-EU2000i-Generator-Deterrent/dp/B004DQY6B6/

This doesn't make it 100% secure, but it's better than just having the plastic handle which is easily broken. Security is a matter of layers - you don't depend on anything being 100%, but you hope that everything will serve to either deter or else slow the thieves down enough so that either they don't try, or else you will be alerted in time to stop them.

Finally, I have a couple of failed circuit alarms, which go off when power is lost:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077Q9NC6/

I figure these could be on the extension bar inside the house while the generator is in use, then if it goes off or is being stolen then I will get an alert when they unplug the extension cord. I am using one of these alarms in the garage now, for the chest freezer so I'll know if that circuit trips out for whatever reason (avoid thawed out freezer, never fun).

Anyway, hope that helps anyone else who might be thinking about a similar setup - the Honda EU2000i is a great little generator (I also have the Companion), and with a little forethought you can make it much easier to use in your house in emergencies. Oh, and one last thing - I also have a large folding plastic table, which can be used to put over the generator if it's raining outside when you need to use it. Obviously the generator can't be too near the house, because of risk of carbon monoxide, so being outside puts the generator at risk of exposure to the elements. One of those folding tables, you can get from any department store, is useful for putting the generator under something. If the rain is especially heavy, I can put an additional tarp over the table, which can also cover two sides, and a couple of cinder blocks makes it ok in the wind.

Incidentally, this is a good battery powered CO detector, great for emergencies if you need to run a Buddy heater inside the house, or make sure the generator exhaust isn't blowing inside:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y6V5CI/

I use a battery powered household one. Probably not as good as an aviation specific one, but it's $20 and better than nothing.

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-Battery-Operated-Carbon-Monoxide-Digital/dp/B004Y6V5CI/

> The elevated temperatures of the cast iron is supposed to also allow a more complete combustion of the propane, which further reduces the CO concern.

Unburnt hydrocarbons (which could make the food taste bad) may be a bigger concern than CO. However, it doesn't hurt to be safe, so you can always get a CO detector if it adds to your piece of mind.

Do what I do and carry a CO2 monitor in your prius and you'll be fine. I've never had it go off in almost a year of running the engine (for the AC) every night.

Here's the one I've been using: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y6V5CI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y6V5CI/


Just got a separate meter for my bedroom. Thanks for the reminder!

Here, try this CO detector. I feel like this would be a good option for now and to save for later.

If you want a CO Detector you can get a battery powered one. Main worry would be: you're asleep in a parking lot/festival area (Walmart/rest area), someone pulls up next to you, they fire up their generator (somehow that doesn't wake you up; ear plugs/alcohol), exhaust goes straight in your window, you die. All of this is way low change probability but it has happened and people have died.

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-Battery-Operated-Monoxide-KN-COPP-B-LPM/dp/B004Y6V5CI

Fan

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GZMMH7K

Lights - lots of USB lights out there. You can power them and the fan off a powerbank if you want or go to something a little bigger like a GoalZero yeti. If you're getting a DC fridge I'd install an auxiliary/house/leisure battery setup otherwise there are probably less complicated solutions. I've wanted to do a house battery but it has been too involved so far to get done.

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I have a Kidde as well. It is very highly ranked on Amazon with thousands of positive reviews. this one

Supposedly ,the Kidde KN-Copp-B-LPM goes down to 11.

I just got one of these battery guys for my kid's room, I wonder if there's any reason it wouldn't work in an aircraft? It's reasonably compact and like twenty bucks

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-Battery-Operated-Monoxide-KN-COPP-B-LPM/dp/B004Y6V5CI/

I have three of these, one on each level of my house. http://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-B-LPM-Battery-Operated-Monoxide-Digital/dp/B004Y6V5CI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405998065&sr=8-1&keywords=carbon+monoxide+detector
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$60 bucks total, and I don't even feel terrified reading this thread.

Why wait? You might forget. Here is the top rated one on Amazon and at $20 it's a fair price. http://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-B-LPM-Battery-Operated-Monoxide-Digital/dp/B004Y6V5CI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406035532&sr=8-1&keywords=carbon+monoxide

They already have detectors that show a reading on an lcd display, they only sound off at 70, but they show levels that are lower.

http://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-B-LPM-Battery-Operated-Monoxide-Digital/dp/B004Y6V5CI/