Reddit reviews Killing Hope: U. S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II

If they simply "stopped paying attention", how would you explain the CIA's orders to the Jeddah consulate to grant Al Qaeda operatives visas into the country?

How do you explain the fact that once in the country, the alleged hijackers received training at secure military installations.

It is you, sir, who needs to read some books:

Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II

Confessions of an Economic Hitman

Tragedy and Hope

Wall Street and The Bolshevik Revolution

Wall Street and The Rise of Hitler

Foundations: Their Power and Influence

Bank Control of Large Corporations in the United States

Wake up to reality my friend. These people are not, and have never been, incompetent or negligent. If they were either, they wouldn't be in the positions of power they are in today.

>You gotta have cited for 80.

Between attempts and successes it may actually be close to 80, but here are the successes:

>Iran (1953); Guatemala(1954); Thailand (1957); Laos (1958-60); the Congo (1960); Turkey (1960, 1971 & 1980); Ecuador (1961 & 1963); South Vietnam (1963); Brazil (1964); the Dominican Republic (1963); Argentina (1963); Honduras (1963 & 2009); Iraq (1963 & 2003); Bolivia (1964, 1971 & 1980); Indonesia (1965); Ghana (1966); Greece (1967); Panama (1968 & 1989); Cambodia (1970); Chile (1973); Bangladesh (1975); Pakistan (1977); Grenada (1983); Mauritania (1984); Guinea (1984); Burkina Faso (1987); Paraguay (1989); Haiti (1991 & 2004); Russia (1993); Uganda (1996);and Libya (2011).

http://www.alternet.org/world/americas-coup-machine-destroying-democracy-1953

https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-Military-Interventions-Since/dp/1567510523/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=064GA0M04G74H2S1MMKE

I don't know about you, but that seems like a shit ton of successful coups. No one does it better than the US.

I have a book on my shelf called Killing Hope: US Military and CIA
Interventions Since World War II.

The U.S. is fucking brutal.

> I would like to invite you to come to Russia and see how much bullshit we are fed everyday not only about the US but about the West in general. It is unbelievable!

Have been before, don't really need to go to see the bullshit propaganda spread there just need to watch a little bit of Russia-1 ;)

> there are thousands of outlets with all kinds of perspective and bias

My point is the BIG channels are generally the ones people watch and believe, come on lad very few people actually look up small news sites and blogs most just go to whatever the main ones are CNN , BBC etc..

> Comparing Russian propaganda to the US one is like comparing a Master of deceit to a Marketing strategist. But anyway, the world is not Russia vs US dude, so, stop just bringing up the US to justify anything about Russia.

I'd say US propaganda is pretty good with all the "justified" things they've done over the years including screwing elections in other countries and wars, these are the ones that worked : Iran (1953); Guatemala(1954); Thailand (1957); Laos (1958-60); the Congo (1960); Turkey (1960, 1971 & 1980); Ecuador (1961 & 1963); South Vietnam (1963); Brazil (1964); the Dominican Republic (1963); Argentina (1963); Honduras (1963 & 2009); Iraq (1963 & 2003); Bolivia (1964, 1971 & 1980); Indonesia (1965); Ghana (1966); Greece (1967); Panama (1968 & 1989); Cambodia (1970); Chile (1973); Bangladesh (1975); Pakistan (1977); Grenada (1983); Mauritania (1984); Guinea (1984); Burkina Faso (1987); Paraguay (1989); Haiti (1991 & 2004); Russia (1993); Uganda (1996);and Libya (2011).

http://www.alternet.org/world/americas-coup-machine-destroying-democracy-1953

https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-Military-Interventions-Since/dp/1567510523/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=064GA0M04G74H2S1MMKE


Since the conversation is about Pro- & Anti-Russian propaganda I can't not bring up Russia vs US.

> Keep on watching RT and TASS and Sputniknews. Putin thanks you!

I watch a little bit of everything tbh, I like to hear both versions of the story, one where its justified other where its a "war-crime" for example

Yes. The U.S. has never intervened for moral reasons.

Killing Hope. If you really love the United States you'll check this book out. It will make you sick to your stomach.

I would also recommend William Blum's Killing Hope and Rogue State, as well as Chalmers Johnson's trilogy on empire, Blowback, Sorrows of Empire, and Nemesis.

Or just read this..

http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-Military-Interventions-Since/dp/1567510523

Some portions from it are here,

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/KillingHope_page.html

Killing Hope, by William Blum is the definitive book on these matters.

A very good read.

Well publicly available information may not always be the best place for information on conspiracies. Whether big secrets can stand the test of time is itself a paradox. What is publicly known is that the USA/CIA has been involved in covert activity around the world killing elected presidents, funding death squads, destabilising democracies...

here is the contents page for Killing Hope

1. China - 1945 to 1960s: Was Mao Tse-tung just paranoid?
   
2. Italy - 1947-1948: Free elections, Hollywood style
   
3. Greece - 1947 to early 1950s: From cradle of democracy to client state
   
4. The Philippines - 1940s and 1950s: America's oldest colony
   
5. Korea - 1945-1953: Was it all that it appeared to be?
   
6. Albania - 1949-1953: The proper English spy
   
7. Eastern Europe - 1948-1956: Operation Splinter Factor
   
8. Germany - 1950s: Everything from juvenile delinquency to terrorism
   
9. Iran - 1953: Making it safe for the King of Kings
   
10. Guatemala - 1953-1954: While the world watched
    
11. Costa Rica - Mid-1950s: Trying to topple an ally - Part 1
    
12. Syria - 1956-1957: Purchasing a new government
    
13. Middle East - 1957-1958: The Eisenhower Doctrine claims another backyard for America
    
14. Indonesia - 1957-1958: War and pornography
    
15. Western Europe - 1950s and 1960s: Fronts within fronts within fronts
    
16. British Guiana - 1953-1964: The CIA's international labor mafia
    
17. Soviet Union - Late 1940s to 1960s: From spy planes to book publishing
    
18. Italy - 1950s to 1970s: Supporting the Cardinal's orphans and techno-fascism
    
19. Vietnam - 1950-1973: The Hearts and Minds Circus
    
20. Cambodia - 1955-1973: Prince Sihanouk walks the high-wire of neutralism
    
21. Laos - 1957-1973: L'Armée Clandestine
    
22. Haiti - 1959-1963: The Marines land, again
    
23. Guatemala - 1960: One good coup deserves another
    
24. France/Algeria - 1960s: L'état, c'est la CIA
    
25. Ecuador - 1960-1963: A text book of dirty tricks
    
26. The Congo - 1960-1964: The assassination of Patrice Lumumba
    
27. Brazil - 1961-1964: Introducing the marvelous new world of death squads
    
28. Peru - 1960-1965: Fort Bragg moves to the jungle
    
29. Dominican Republic - 1960-1966: Saving democracy from communism by getting rid of democracy
    
30. Cuba - 1959 to 1980s: The unforgivable revolution
    
31. Indonesia - 1965: Liquidating President Sukarno … and 500,000 others
    East Timor - 1975: And 200,000 more
    
32. Ghana - 1966: Kwame Nkrumah steps out of line
    
33. Uruguay - 1964-1970: Torture -- as American as apple pie
    
34. Chile - 1964-1973: A hammer and sickle stamped on your child's forehead
    
35. Greece - 1964-1974: "Fuck your Parliament and your Constitution," said
    the President of the United States
    
36. Bolivia - 1964-1975: Tracking down Che Guevara in the land of coup d'etat
    
37. Guatemala - 1962 to 1980s: A less publicized "final solution"
    
38. Costa Rica - 1970-1971: Trying to topple an ally -- Part 2
    
39. Iraq - 1972-1975: Covert action should not be confused with missionary work
    
40. Australia - 1973-1975: Another free election bites the dust
    
41. Angola - 1975 to 1980s: The Great Powers Poker Game
    
42. Zaire - 1975-1978: Mobutu and the CIA, a marriage made in heaven
    
43. Jamaica - 1976-1980: Kissinger's ultimatum
    
44. Seychelles - 1979-1981: Yet another area of great strategic importance
    
45. Grenada - 1979-1984: Lying -- one of the few growth industries in Washington
    
46. Morocco - 1983: A video nasty
    
47. Suriname - 1982-1984: Once again, the Cuban bogeyman
    
48. Libya - 1981-1989: Ronald Reagan meets his match
    
49. Nicaragua - 1981-1990: Destabilization in slow motion
    
50. Panama - 1969-1991: Double-crossing our drug supplier
    
51. Bulgaria 1990/Albania 1991: Teaching communists what democracy is all about
    
52. Iraq - 1990-1991: Desert holocaust
    
53. Afghanistan - 1979-1992: America's Jihad
    
54. El Salvador - 1980-1994: Human rights, Washington style
    
55. Haiti - 1986-1994: Who will rid me of this turbulent priest?
    
    to which our friend gave this epitaph
    
    "Far and away the best book on the topic."
    Noam Chomsky
    
    The question is certainly not would or could this be an inside job
    just simply was it. For the record I don't know, in many ways I don't care. There is enough public information to know how power operates to lead me the conclusion that all these things are inside jobs whether planned directly or not. A relatively small group of people hold sway over huge resources militarily, economically, culturally and create an environment that maintains the status quo - a status quo of hopelessness, environmental destruction and human misery. Power is not passive in this it continually lobbies for it and against any challenge to this status quo by 'pretty much' all means necessary.
    
    killing hope - William Blum

Read his book "Killing Hope"; it is profusely documented with citations.