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You don't see the irony of going to a specific UK party sub and telling actual members of the Labour party they're not left wing?

This stopped being about the MP when someone decided to 'fact check' me with a bunch of bullshit. You're just deflecting now.

I'm sorry but no, the same regime is in power now that was 50 years ago. I note you didn't respond to my questions on what happens to political dissidents and those trying to establish independent trade unions in Cuba today?

I do not consider it significant progress that they've stopped executing people. You set a ridiculously low bar for people that have showed themselves not to respect human rights.

It's not at all controversial to not support revolutionaries, in fact if you do support revolutionaries you're going against clause 1 of the Labour party constitution and it's grounds for expulsion.

> If there were a revolution tomorrow that put in place the exact ideas you wanted for your society you wouldn't support it?

No. This is really simple stuff. As a democrat I do not believe political power should be in the hands of some sort of mob rule, a revolution, popular or not, has no legitimacy and undermines many of the institutions and rights that exist to uphold democracy and the rule of law.

> The only way to make progress is the voting booth? Ridiculous.

Ultimately yes. It's really not that ridiculous, you can protest things and get concessions but the only lasting change comes through reform. Revolutions are built and survive on violent oppression of political opponents - in every case.

What reasons are those again? I'm racist because I think Fidel Castro wass a piece of shit? Nuance? You talk to the familes of those killed about nuance, you're fucking pathetic. The fact you believe every single criticism of Castro must be weighed an measured with "But the west did X bad also" shows how fucked up your logic is. The way you speak about Castro's legacy shows your political priorities, torturing gay people doesn't matter, he was too busy 'supporting liberation' to focus on not imprisoning and killing his political opponents.

I don't know what mickey mouse outfit gave you a history degree, but I'm guessing you didn't write anything along these lines. Socialism isn't built by killing and imprisoning those that disagree with you.

The Labour party exists as the political wing of independent trade unions, the idea that we should support a country that would kill or imprison us is ridiculous.

You seem like a useful idiot to their cause more than anything and the fact you're ignoring the questions that you clearly have no answers to in my replies shows how shallow your arguments are.

You accuse me of not being left wing as if I should be ashamed that I support things that you find 'irrelevant to Castro's legacy' but I will not apologise for supporting gay rights, independent trade unions and the right to hold whatever political position I want. The irony of course is if you held the opposite view to yours now in Cuba, you would be silenced by force. But you see that as a good thing.

I'm glad you live in Canada, because I would be ashamed if you were a member of the same political party as me. Your opinions are fucking vile mate, seriously, you seem to have this idea that literally anything but anything western is superior. It's the kind of political masochism I was mentioning earlier. Idealism without ideals.

Take your vacuous poison somewhere else, or better yet, actually reflect on your own political views, read about some real fucking left wing achievements why don't you.