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u/southofsarita44 · 1 pointr/benshapiro

> Because Walsh constantly talks bad about white people as a group. It's pretty disgusting. Shapiro and co talk about self-hating Jews - what's the difference between that and race traitor?

That is a bald face lie to claim he was talking shit about white people as a group. He was criticizing a white supremacist who murdered innocent people. You're conflating the two because you can't defend what Fuentes said.

I defy you to find an example of Walsh or Shapiro for that matter saying anything close to: "Matt Walsh, shabbos goy race traitor. That’s what it is, folks. I know some people don’t like to use that expression, but it’s totally true—throwing his own people under the bus. He hates white people. Nobody else talks like that about their own people except for white people and it’s gross” .... “Yeah, OK, keep typing on Twitter dot com, faggot. Faggot. Pussy. Race traitor—you work for Jews, you know.”


That we even have to argue that Fuentes was wrong here shows the level of decay in our society. Fuentes is not making it better, but adding more fuel to the flames.

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> The red herring is that we're talking about these loaded words instead of the actual criticisms and substance of the critique and of Nick's views.

As I said before, this is Fuentes's view of conservatives who criticized the El Paso shooter. They reflect that he believes, like you, that America is an ethnostate for white people. That's why I'm criticizing him and I haven't heard a good reason why I'm wrong. You want a debate on Fuentes's views, then answer my criticism.

>Germany at its worst is better than Mexico at its best. They still have the Cologne Cathedral, they still have a long long history of being civilized. The type of immigration and the amount of immigration are unprecedented. This massive demographic shift will change the country. It's a matter of fact that America was founded by white people, that white people built it, and that it's been majority white since its founding. It's not that I'm proud of it, that's just the truth.

Yet in the 1850s Germany was a splintered confederacy ruled by corrupt nobles forcing peasants to kill each other in pointless wars. Mexico has all sorts of similar problems that flair up in different periods (Today is kinda like their Revolution period in the 1910s) but it's ignorant to say they don't have civilization, churches, or cultural achievements. For someone who likes European culture so much you'd think you'd realize Spain planted European culture there by conquest.


Also, I know too many patriotic, first generation Mexican immigrants who do assimilate to believe that immigration from Mexico is a threat. It's that there is massive immigration illegally across the border encouraged by American corporations and ethnic studies activists that is the problem.

The answer is defending and understanding our culture which from it's founding was a melting pot. We were a specific type of white (which was already an umbrella for different peoples and faiths) at our founding, this expanded and fueled our country's growth to the present. I'm not saying this whole history of immigration has always been good nor that there aren't good arguments for restricting immigration (Shapiro is open to arguments for immigration restrictions as well). I am saying the argument that we need to keep America white because America has always been white ignores the scope of American history and the contributions non-whites have made to the American project. A demographic shift will change the country as my great-great grandfather did when he moved here too. But it doesn't have to if we defend to our values and show people that it means something to be American.

> I describe myself as a Christian. I've read the bible, and I believe it. My area is extremely liberal and doesn't have any good churches. I've looked. My family isn't religious. So it's challenging.

I can sympathize with that. I live in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas which has been a Democratic stronghold for 150 years! There are plenty of dissenters and believers down here though so don't give up. Do check out that website First Things and check out William Lane Craig at Reasonable Faith. Also, I'd highly recommend Land of Hope by historian William McClay. There's nothing wrong with getting heating in a debate and I hope you don't take anything wrote above as malicious. Check out those links and pursue God with an open heart.