Reddit reviews Male Rape is a Feminist Issue: Feminism, Governmentality and Male Rape (Critical Criminological Perspectives)

>Their arguments require them to walk home in high risk areas with ipod blaring, hunched up and not paying any attention.

Whose arguments? You say "those people" and "their arguments" but you don't identify who you mean. Are you referring to people who point out victim-blaming tactics when they see them? Because that includes many, many people (and not just feminists) who have never even heard about the men's rights movement, but understand that when you say something like, "Don't wear short skirts," you imply that if the person does and they're raped, it's because they wore a short skirt, not because they were targeted by a rapist.

>Otherwise they are hypocrits telling others not to protect themselves.

Who's doing this? If you're talking about feminists, then you're talking about an incredibly complex set of different ideologies and approaches, advocated by groups and individuals who have (really) nothing in common except that they all claim the "feminist" label. There is no monolithic "feminism" - that's what terms like "3rd wave feminism" mean. A feminist could be anyone, from a 17yr old girl publishing a blog on .tumblr, to a father in Afghanistan who sends his daughters to school, to Betty Friedan and Gloria Stienhem, to Camile Paglia, to one of those nuns that the Pope doesn't like. They're all feminists, but if you asked them what "feminism" means you would get 10 different answers, some of which would completely contradict what the others say.

Also, no one is telling people not to protect themselves. Personal safety is important. Who do you think started the first female self-defence classes, or distributed the first rape whistles, or sounded the alarm about the use of Rohypnol in the club scene? But there is a huge difference between what constitutes "protective advice," and what constitutes advice that holds the victim responsible for their own attack.

>but it's not like feminists will ever address female on male rape

I'm a feminist, and I address it. I talk about it in my writing, in my personal work, in my professional work (I'm a special-needs therapist) and with my friends, family and community. So now you know one feminist who does. Because like I said, feminism is a very wide and deep pool. And yes, there are problems with the way some feminists have addressed this issue (if they have addressed it at all), just as there are problems with the way society as a whole has addressed all kinds of sexual assault.

But more and more 3rd wavers are talking about female-on-male rape, the problems with discourse that anomalizes sexual assault against men, and the need to create awareness about and protection for male victims.

>If they actually addressed rape in a sensible way then there wouldn't be disagreement here.

Really? You've never seen any evidence in this sub, let alone on the wider MR webosphere, that indicates some MRAs are so opposed to the idea of feminism that they would reject any attempt made by feminists to address the issue of rape or sexual assault "in a sensible way"?

As it says in the sidebar, "feminism is not a solution for men's issues." I happen to disagree (I think you have to look for solutions everywhere you can, and make as many allies as you can), but just as there is incredible diversity of opinion among feminists, there is already a big difference in the way folks here talk about men's rights and what they think are the right ways to publicize the movement, address legislative inequalities, redefine masculinity, etc, etc.

Male rape: http://www.amazon.com/Male-Rape-Feminist-Issue-Governmentality/dp/0230223966

http://feministing.com/2013/01/31/the-dangers-of-a-gender-essentialist-approach-to-sexual-violence/

Gender norms in media: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_role#The_Impact_of_Feminists_on_Gender_Roles (especially the last paragraph)

Male circumcision: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/16oqw2/what_is_the_feminist_stance_on_male_circumcision/

Wow, googling is hard.

Also keep in mind that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of academic books published on feminism. Many of them present different views on what it means to be feminist. Have you read a single one of these books? That might be why you haven't heard of feminists protesting on behalf of men.

The eradication of prison rape is something that feminists have supported from the beginning, as I have shown in previous comments.

RAINN, an organization that would not be possible without feminist support, is a huge resource for male victims of rape, and they note that men and boys have special needs as victims compared to women:
https://www.rainn.org/articles/sexual-assault-men-and-boys

Here's a whole book on it:
https://www.amazon.com/Male-Rape-Feminist-Issue-Governmentality/dp/0230223966

Here's a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDR3daN4ig8

Another one posted to Everyday Feminism:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/08/male-rape-no-laughing-matter/

Here's an article connecting rape culture to the way it affects men and boys and how women can be perpetrators:
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/how-rape-culture-victimizes-men/

This stuff isn't hard to find! But like I said if you don't want to consider the evidence and do homework and read up on the way feminism helps men who are victimized then...I can't really help you!

Feminism is about gender equality. The idea it is about exclusively advocating for women rights is just wrong because intersectionality is all about taking into account all forms of inequality. Anarchism by definition includes intersectional feminism.

> and that girls commit just as much rape as guys.

Male rape is a feminist issue.

> Most critics of feminism that I know believe in gender equality.

Than 'most critics' would have to be ignorant and believe the lies.

> They just don't believe it will be attained by only ever elevating the level of women.

Nor does feminism. In-fact that very concept would be against feminism. I'll give you a example...

Let's say a fight for further labor rights was really taking hold in America. A push for greater safety regulations in fields that need it. Feminists like myself and all others would be absolutely appalled to the idea of such regulations passing but only applying to women workers. This would not be a acceptable outcome.

If any subject of rights comes up feminism has to advocate for the same for men as it does for women. This automatically makes feminism a (and a actual) men's rights movement just as much as it is one for women.

> . Or by gendering problems like rape or DV, as if male victims and female perpetrators didn't even exist (something traditionalism did implicitly, but NOT explicitly).

The idea of rape being a male perpetrator and a female victim only scenario has been around longer than feminism has. So this is simply dishonest to try to pass the blame for this on feminism.

In-fact feminism has progressed this idea and protected men with laws we have advocated for.

Hell there is even a feminist book written on the subject of male victims. Male Rape is a Feminist Issue is literally the title of the book.