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27 Reddit comments about Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters:

u/F9R · 71 pointsr/news

"Men on Strike" by Dr. Helen Smith explains all of this perfectly, without gender bias or handwavy PC stuff. Many men, including myself, see that the modern risks of marriage outweigh its benefits. As a result, marriage rates are and have been plummeting. And I'm talking even with the perfect woman, it's just not a smart idea. Long-term cohabitation is the way to go, from a man's point of view.

u/actanonverba8 · 18 pointsr/MensRights

Andrew, I would like you to please consider doing something. Please consider taking all this wonderful knowledge you have about this "14 times" myth and attempting to get it published in a major periodical.

I think your best bet is the shotgun-approach--sending the information to multiple people and hoping one or more will run with it. I think you should consider sending your information to all of the following (it´s just copy/pasting after the first one):

  • Christina Hoff Sommers. She´s a brilliant writer who eats feminist myths for breakfast. She publishes with several popular media sources including The Atlantic and Time magazine. Both her and her assistant´s emails are on the page (to the right of her photo). I would email both.

  • Barbara Kay. Not afraid to criticize feminists. Writes about a variety of issues. Publishes in the National Post.

  • Dr. Helen Smith. Her contact email is: [email protected] Dr. Smith is very sympathetic to men and boys. She normally publishes at Pajamas Media.

  • Send a letter to the editor in to the Toronto Star (the newspaper you linked to here). The email address is: [email protected] Your letter probably won´t get published, but it just might. It shouldn´t take long, mostly just copy/pasting what you´ve already done.

    Well, I would like to thank you for your excellent post and I hope you´ll consider what I´ve proposed. Keep up the good work.
u/pirateundies · 10 pointsr/TheRedPill

>The reason that all men are considered potential rapists and pedophiles, is because we ARE all potential rapists and pedophiles.

This statement you made in one of your other comments really struck with me and brought me to respond. You also state that you're trying to do research and find things to read, so I'll see what I can provide. It will likely be a combination of articles, research studies, and comments from other redditors.

As for the topics of rapists, pedophiles, domestic abuse - these might be something you'll find better answers for over at /r/mensrights. They're typically more informed on things like how the CDC, according to its own policy, doesn't recognize that women can rape men. Or how men are as likely to be victims of domestic abuse by women, yet no one in America seems to care. And what's worse is the researcher writing in the Introduction about how publishing that would probably damage his career.

From my perspective, the 'Manosphere' is this meeting of game with Men's Rights issues to deal with the fact and the frustration that men will have to learn to seduce, as well as just generally live, in a world that sees men only as potential criminals and not victims. Women can cry rape and face no repercussions and when they resort to general crime they typically receive less than half the jail time that a man would. This creates a view that they are being raised to feel entitled to anything rather than aspiring to anything through hard work.

You obviously have tons of personal experience with game itself, so if you're looking for other primers on the social/political issues you could also check out this great post by FrenchFuck or the book Men On Strike. There's a lot of anger on here, but anger is a secondary emotion that's almost always preceded by some form of fear or sadness.

u/aussiehank · 7 pointsr/australia

> necius wrote ...(western) world is a better place for both men and women...

The western world has become anti-male. Men are sensing the backlash and are consciously and unconsciously going 'on strike'. Males are dropping out of uni, leaving the workforce and avoiding marriage and fatherhood at alarming rates.

Enjoy the decline.

u/Genghis-Brah · 7 pointsr/AsianMasculinity

Yeah personally I think it's very dangerous for Asian men especially in the western countries to marry.

Marriage strike

I think it would do well for a lot of Asian guys in this sub to read this book Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters by Helen Smith. A lot of Asian men are liable to get divorced raped and should be completely cautious to the women they choose to be with. Especially if they're white women or born again Asian women who rode the cock carousel in their college years but now want to settle down. Asian culture preps a lot of Asian men to be a provider for a woman but with low sexual rewards. It's vital so you won't get played as a utility to be disposed as. Alimony is not cheap and getting half your shit taken from you is not fun.

u/porkchop_d_clown · 7 pointsr/Economics

This is not a new idea...

Men on Strike

u/MyPoopIsHere · 6 pointsr/AskMen

I think Men On Strike tackles a whole lot of issues we see here - especially around divorce, marriage, and custody.

The Author, Dr. Helen Smith, did an AMA a couple months ago that turned me onto the book. Whether or not you agree with everything she says, she provides some compelling facts.

u/7wap · 6 pointsr/MensRights

Wow, I'm floored. That woman came across better than any MRA I know. She's articulate, knows the issues, and isn't hateful. Does anyone know if her book is this good?

u/[deleted] · 5 pointsr/AskMen

I know a bunch of men that have similar stories. One women, even got the courts to force this guy I know to pay child support for kids that wasn't even his for six years when their relationship tanked. Judges are even throwing out prenupts now, " I signed it under duress" gets tossed.

There's only risk for men in marriage, very little reward. Men on Strike Good book on the matter.

u/RedditBlueit · 5 pointsr/AskMen

Funny you should ask....

> So as it stands today, there are large numbers of middle-class men who were upstanding citizens, who were subjected to divorce against their will, had their children taken from them, pay alimony masked as child support that is so high that many of them have to live out of their cars or with their relatives, and after job loss from economic conditions, are imprisoned simply for running out of money.

> If 10-30% of American men are under conditions where 70% or more of their income is taken from them under threat of prison, these men have no incentive to start new businesses or invent new technologies or processes. Having 10-30% of men disincentivized this way cannot be good for the economy, and is definitely a contributor to current economic malaise, not to mention a 21st-century version of slavery.

See also, Men On Strike:

> American society has become anti-male. Men are sensing the backlash and are consciously and unconsciously going “on strike.” They are dropping out of college, leaving the workforce and avoiding marriage and fatherhood at alarming rates. The trend is so pronounced that a number of books have been written about this “man-child” phenomenon, concluding that men have taken a vacation from responsibility simply because they can. But why should men participate in a system that seems to be increasingly stacked against them?

> As Men on Strike demonstrates, men aren’t dropping out because they are stuck in arrested development. They are instead acting rationally in response to the lack of incentives society offers them to be responsible fathers, husbands and providers. In addition, men are going on strike, either consciously or unconsciously, because they do not want to be injured by the myriad of laws, attitudes and hostility against them for the crime of happening to be male in the twenty-first century. Men are starting to fight back against the backlash. Men on Strike explains their battle cry.

tl;dr: Men are responding to the signals women (via society) are sending them.

u/Ripplinghurst · 4 pointsr/TheRedPill

Relevant book, just out:

Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594036756/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1594036756&linkCode=as2&tag=insta0c-20

u/Nutz76 · 3 pointsr/TheRedPill

Here's the US link to her book:

http://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/1594036756/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?showViewpoints=1


And here's a fantastic overview that was posted here a few days ago:

http://outsidethewire.com/content/view/430/14/

u/Plavonica · 3 pointsr/MensRights

A link to Helen Smith's book.

u/GCanuck · 3 pointsr/AskMen

Not 100%, but I believe it was a quote from the author of Men on Strike (who was quoting one of the men she interviewed for this book).

Check out her AMA, I believe it's in there as well.

u/noteventrying · 3 pointsr/KotakuInAction

If youre interested in the topic, the unmentioned inspiration for milo's piece is this book http://www.amazon.com/Men-Strike-Boycotting-Marriage-Fatherhood/dp/1594036756

u/Unharmonic · 2 pointsr/AskMen

Source 1

Source 2

I've read the article.

u/iongantas · 2 pointsr/MensRights

It's all stuff that a regular reader of MensRights will know, it just happens to be this one radio journalist and the author of Men on Strike chatting about it.

u/McDoner · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill
u/feminista_throwaway · 2 pointsr/TheBluePill

>And your tiny anecdotal experience = the whole rest of the US.

Dr. Smith's book wasn't research - a quote from her:

This book is not a research study, but a treatise, a call to action.

and if you read her actual book - you'll see on page 5 - accessible here online that she sourced her book from information that she gathered from internet comments on her blog and men's rights places.

Basically, she sold these men back their own words from their own forums, formatted just so it would feed seamlessly into the whole feedback loop going on. Except she charged them twenty bucks for the pleasure.

Don't fool yourself into thinking she did anything close to questioning the whole US - she just proved what suckers these men are. If I had no conscience, I would do the same. Chumps will buy anything.

u/stackedmidgets · 2 pointsr/Anarcho_Capitalism

Just an aside, but I finished reading "Men on Strike" [1] yesterday.

Not one but two libertarian women were quoted in it: Wendy McElroy and Rachel Rabbit White.

[1]http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/1594036756

u/PlayOnBirds · 1 pointr/TwoXChromosomes

You (and OP's BF) are not alone. To put it simply... Men are not getting married because there are little to no incentives to getting married, and HUGE risks.

There is a forensic psychologist who did an AMA on it a few months ago. Really interesting stuff. It's here:

Helen Smith's AMA, her controversial book, Men On Strike: Why Men are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream, and TV interview

u/30203forever · 1 pointr/MGTOW2

>What do you mean ?

Just a joke lost in translation. it means "I understand you being polite and discrete but you can really tell it like it is here." P.S. I also edited my post. Here is another book if you can find it in pdf: https://www.amazon.com/Men-Strike-Boycotting-Marriage-Fatherhood/dp/1594036756/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

u/clint_taurus_200 · -1 pointsr/AdviceAnimals

Women killed the party.

u/paleho · -24 pointsr/rupaulsdragrace

You didn't even read the mission statement of the sub.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/12v1hf/almost_a_hundred_subscribers_welcome_newcomers/

I don't know anything about that sub but it's not intended to be so or what the guy said at all.

Meanwhile, since you apparently are South African not American you may want to consider how AMERICAN society is FAILING BOYS and that includes gay children. Do you have the courage to admit that boys are being summarily rejected/devalued at a very young age? Do you have any sons?

The War on Boys:

http://www.amazon.com/The-WAR-AGAINST-BOYS-Misguided/dp/0684849577

Men on Strike ...And Why It Matters:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594036756/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwviolentkicom&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1594036756