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u/465hta465hsd · 530 pointsr/likeus

Look up Alex the grey parrot and the studies of Irene Pepperberg. Not only did Alex ask for his favorite food (using english words) or to be carried to his favorite place, he also understood concepts like colours, shapes, textures and numbers and could answer questions on it (how many green objects are on this plate?). He also made the first language based joke by an animal as far as I know. I study raven intelligence for a living, bit if you want an impressive first entry into the world of avian cognition I can recommend Pepperberg's books. If people are interested, I can provide some sources later, am on mobile now.

Edit: some sources on corvid cognition:

Here are scientific sources of some of the most successful corvid researchers in no particular order: Thomas Bugnyar (social cognition), John Marzluff (cultural transmission), Mathias Osvath (play), Nicky Clayton and Nathan Emery (memory), Russel Gray (tool use), Christian Rutz (tool use), Alex Taylor (tool use) and Gavin Hunt (tool use). I am sure I forgot some big shots.

These authors worked on several other topics besides the listed ones, but it still gives you an approximate idea about their research interests. Of course there are many more corvid researchers, too many to list here, but if you look at the co-authors of their papers and the cited literature I am sure you can find many more interesting papers.

The tool use people work with New Caledonian crows, whereas the others work mainly with ravens, crows (american, hooded or carrion) and scrub jays, but there are many more.

If you want a more general, popular-science introduction into corvid cognition (mainly ravens), I recommend reading the books of Bernd Heinrich (e.g. Mind of the Raven), or John Marzluff.

There are also those very interesting studies by Prof. John Marzluff and his team, conducted on american crows. You can get a quick summary in this video, but basically they scared some crows while wearing a specific mask and used a different mask as neutral control. The crows remembered and continued to recognize and respond to the "dangerous" mask for several months (in follow up studies even years) but showed no response to the control mask. They also found vertical (across generations) and horizontal (within generation) information transmission of the mask recognition and responding mobbing behaviour. Interestingly, individuals that were not present during the scary event, because they were living in adifferent area or simply not born yet, started responding as well. When the masks were worn upside down, some birds moved their heads upside down as well, further indicating recognition of facial features.


They published a number of papers on the subject:

u/graham_a_bama · 4 pointsr/todayilearned
u/Mirrinias · 3 pointsr/birdpics

No, it's not. Ravens are a completely different species than crows. The American crow is not even its closest relative in the genus Corvus.

One thing that always featured in my ornithology classes was that ravens and crows are not the same. I would say the only people who call ravens crows are the people who don't know the difference. I would recommend the Mind of the Raven by Bernd Heinrich for some great reading on these amazing birds. http://www.amazon.com/Mind-Raven-Investigations-Adventures-Wolf-Birds/dp/0061136050/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1/183-5801390-7915625

u/0111oiq · 1 pointr/Rabbits

I tried to give examples, but I guess those aren't useful if you haven't read any of their books.

These are somewhat narrative "stories" on behavioral studies, mostly. Not academic journals.

ie:

https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Raven-Investigations-Adventures-Wolf-Birds/dp/0061136050

https://www.amazon.com/Bumblebee-Economics-New-Preface-Revised/dp/0674016394/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1494625381&sr=1-1&keywords=Bernd+Heinrich+bee

https://www.amazon.com/Peacemaking-among-Primates-Frans-Waal/dp/067465921X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1494625311&sr=1-1&keywords=peacemaking+among+primates

Domestic or wild does not matter to me besides not being interested in things relating to "caring for pet rabbits". Neither does "type" really; a variety would be fine.