Reddit reviews Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM, High Performance Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 1700 RPM (120mm, Grey)

I know this is not a fair comparison, considering the name that precedes them, but these vs Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM? I don't particularly care about RGB, but they cost about 3 bucks extra each.

Even cheaper if you buy the grey ones without the rubber inserts. All the performance of Noctua without the big price tag.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_9?smid=A1Z5H6ZGWCMTNX&psc=1

These are what I bought, I've also heard this is a great deal on good fans if you like RGB.

I would probably not recommend getting more of the base fans, they don't seem to have nearly as much flow as the Noctua fans I'm using now.

Edit: I looked up the Cubic Feet per Minute (CFM) for the fans, base fans have 52.3 CFM, RGB fans are 54.4 CFM, and the noctua is 71 CFM. So the base and RGB fans are only getting around 73% of the airflow as the noctuas. If you want to find some with a different look, just check the CFM to see how effective they will be.

These are the price performance Kings in my opinion. Quiet but still has great pressure, and Noctua quality for $13.90 a piece.

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM

• Static Pressure: 2,83 mm H₂O
  
• Airflow: 120,2 m³/h
  
• RPM Range: 450-1,700

Don't waste your time with an unproved fan.....Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM it's not brown like other noctua fans... 95% of the performance for 1/2 the price

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You can’t go wrong with a Noctua air cooler. You seem like a grown up and don’t care about color, so the u14 or d14 would be a good buy.

Noctua website have MB compatibility lists for all their coolers.

I have a be quiet dark rock pro 4 purely because it was in black.

As for fans,
These are my favorite 120mm pwms

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6

Spend a little extra for pwm. You’ll get a much more control and a quieter PC.

Also, 158mm clearance from the base and of the MB to the side panel? Or something else?

/u/shadowciaw you were looking for 120mm fans under $20:

NF-P12 Redux 1700rpm

Noctua Redux 1700 RPM’s are $14. https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is exactly what I was looking for. Is there any reason I shouldn't get the cheaper one?

1: https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-A12x25-5V-Premium-Adaptor/dp/B07DXLCVVL

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2: https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=pd_cp_147_2/136-3502457-2079017?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07CG2PGY6&pd_rd_r=62bfa581-9359-4dc6-b801-c083c7394735&pd_rd_w=H4Xb6&pd_rd_wg=7AV6M&pf_rd_p=0e5324e1-c848-4872-bbd5-5be6baedf80e&pf_rd_r=W1YHQXHVRZ6482H00APE&psc=1&refRID=W1YHQXHVRZ6482H00APE

EDIT:.... I honestly know nothing about these. I'm not sure if you can just sit them up vertically in the back of the cabinet or if they have to be installed into the PS4 etc.

Use the Antec case, pull the 120mm fans and replace with Noctuas, keep the 200 as that will be quiet.

Make sure to lower the fan rpm using motherboard software/bios, you can get a PWM hub to simplify things down to one port or if there aren't enough ports on the motherboard.

PCPartPicker Part List

|Type|Item|Price|
|:-|:-|:-|
|CPU|AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor|$194.99 @ Amazon|
|CPU Cooler|Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler|$59.95 @ Amazon|
|Motherboard|ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard|$84.99 @ Amazon|
|Memory|Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory|$82.99 @ Amazon|
|Storage|Sabrent Rocket 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive|$59.98 @ Amazon|
|Storage|Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive|$50.98 @ Amazon|
|Video Card|Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card|$419.99 @ Amazon|
|Case|Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case|$54.97 @ Amazon|
|Power Supply|Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply|$99.99 @ Amazon|
|Case Fan|Rosewill ROCF-13001 38.2 CFM 120 mm Fan|$14.99 @ Amazon|
|Custom|Fancasee 4-Pin PWM Fan Power Supply Cable 1 to 5 Splitter 5 Way PC Case Internal Motherboard Fan Power Extension Cable Cord Wire for ATX Computer Case 4-Pin and 3-Pin Cooling Fans (13 inch, Black)|$7.90 @ Amazon|
||||
|Total|$1131.72||
|Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-22 11:14 EDT-0400|||

CPU: The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X with 8 cores and 16 threads should handle any workload you throw at it and gaming is a breeze. This is an overclockable chip so if you want to try doing that later on you can do so no problem.

CPU Cooler: The Noctua NH-U12S will cool your processor easily and will handle almost any overclock you throw at it without breaking a sweat.

Motherboard: The ASRock B450M/AC is a great motherboard and can handle overclocking if you want to try that in the future and has WiFi and Bluetooth built in.

RAM: The Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB kit has the speed that Ryzen demands. 3200 is a great speed for this gen and does a wonderful job in adding performance.

Storage: The Sabrent Rocket 512GB M.2 SSD has plenty of fast storage in a small M.2 factor with no SATA cables going to it leaving less for cable management. I also added a 1TB WD Blue hard drive for game storage

Video Card: The Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB is a great card and you should be able to game at 1080p 60+fps easily.

Case: The Fractal Design Focus G Mid Tower Case because it looks nice, easy to work in, and has great airflow.

Power Supply: The Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold will allow you in the future to upgrade your hardware and still have power left over. You can even overclock your CPU and GPU if you want and have a lot of headroom still. It comes with a 10 year warranty and is a great PSU.

Case Fans: I added a pack of case fans from Amazon to help airflow inside you case since it only comes with 2 front 120mm fans. I chose these because they don't cost $20USD a fan and perform well. If you want to spend more money on fans I recommended these for $14USD they are quiet and perform just as good as others.

Custom Parts: I also added a fan hub for $8USD for case fans so you can power most if not all of them from one fan slot on your motherboard.

Total: $1131.72USD before tax

Total: $1225.09USD after tax (using Texas sales tax rate of 8.25%)

All of these parts are available from Amazon because I wasn't sure what was available in Israel. If you can't get something where you are let me know and I'll redo the list from a retailer you can get parts from.

If you have any questions please feel free to ask!

That is a fantastic price. The stock cooler is pretty bad but even still it is 13% faster than a GTX 1080 which is worth $450-550 used right now.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-Titan-X-Pascal-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080/m158352vs3603

If you upgrade the cooler you can get a bit more from the card.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2T3-0007-00004

Pair that with 2 decent fans.

https://www.amazon.ca/redux-1700-high-Performance-heatsinks-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6

Maybe referring to Noctua and Be Quiet fans? These can go for $14-25 per fan...

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/

I went for aesthetic in my build and am happy with having these two 120mm on the bottom of my case in exhaust:

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https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=pd_sbs_147_t_0/141-9275322-8501005?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07CG2PGY6&pd_rd_r=60afe392-240a-4444-a5a3-7b42be255b55&pd_rd_w=fV2CU&pd_rd_wg=Kd6xh&pf_rd_p=5cfcfe89-300f-47d2-b1ad-a4e27203a02a&pf_rd_r=V994273QQFY6HQP1QDDM&psc=1&refRID=V994273QQFY6HQP1QDDM

A cheap suggestion to lower the sound is by switching to Noctua fans. They are well known for being very quiet. I picked these fans up and they are considerably quieter than what I got with my case.

For some BIOS, you can setup the fan speed based on the the temperatures. I did that as well.

Fans:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KF7MVI2

Case:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG

i found this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Are there any fans comparable in performance and price to the Noctua NF-P12 redux that are black?

Yeah I have a garbage rosewill fan that is a place holder till I get something better. I have been looking into it recently over a couple weeks and decided I will get a couple of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9u4TCbP2YTH3W

Be quiet fans:

https://www.amazon.com/quiet-BL070-SILENTWINGS-2200RPM-73-33CFM/dp/B01JMELYJA/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=H6MNLC0I2N8B&keywords=be+quiet+120mm+fan&qid=1554981202&s=gateway&sprefix=be+quiet+&sr=8-3

Noctua fans:

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?crid=H9W1MPNBOO8V&keywords=noctua+120mm+fan&qid=1554981228&s=gateway&sprefix=noctua+&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

Also really good are these Noctua's.

These are the links, if you need.

https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_c_D-53DbWEM76QF

https://www.amazon.it/dp/B00650P2ZC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_c_5853Db736KCN8

I just finished my first PC last week and it’s very similar to yours. Make sure your case can fit the NH-D15 because I had to switch cases last minute. Also make sure the second fan on it will clear your RAM. For 120mm fans, I think 120mm is the go to. For 140mm, 140mm.

Edit: Actually that’s the same height ram as mine so you’ll for sure have to raise the second fan a tiny bit which was no problem for me, but make sure your case can fit those extra few mm on the DH15.

Here’s my build to compare. It’s been incredible so far! I posted a small review about it if you want to compare more.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | Purchased For $285.00
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler | Purchased For $100.00
Motherboard | Asus PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | Purchased For $178.00
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | Purchased For $76.99
Storage | XPG GAMMIX S10 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | Purchased For $88.99
Storage | Addlink S70 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | Purchased For $110.00
Video Card | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card | Purchased For $411.82
Case | Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case | Purchased For $152.00
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | Purchased For $105.00
Case Fan | Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan | Purchased For $14.95
Case Fan | Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan | Purchased For $14.95
Monitor | LG 27UK650-W 27.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor | $0.00
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1537.70
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 00:23 EST-0500 |

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Well its the Hyper 212 EVO from Cooler Master and it has those spare mounting parts that attach to the heatsink so I think it should work.

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Any tips on a suitable fan or something with specific RPM or CFM? I'm thinking of a Noctua NF-P12 that has 1700 RPM but I'm not sure about the CFM.

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For the record heres what I was considering: https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=noctua&qid=1557876672&s=electronics&sr=1-9

Thanks for the suggestion, is there a particular price range for the quality ones? i can see ones for £12 each, do you think these would be any good?

I just bought 3 of the noctua 120mm 1700 RPM fans in the link below. I'm going to install them this weekend and I'll let you know the results:

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https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=noctua+redux&qid=1558069546&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Any 120mm fan will work without an issue here. I would stick with a well known brand such as Corsair or Noctua: https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1541915300&sr=1-8&keywords=120mm+case+fan

> My only other question is if zip ties are a viable option when it comes to attaching the new fan.

Zip ties are fine if that is what you wish to use to attach the fan.

if you want a super budget air cooler, get the Gammax 400 and replace the fan with this guy:

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1542611187&sr=1-10&keywords=noctua+120mm+pwm

Consider the 2600X instead as it has higher clocks, and so will handle a GPU upgrade better. That said, you can always just OC your CPU too, and since the platform will be supported up to at least Zen 3 then you could also upgrade your CPU to a 3000 or 4000 series one as well, without the need to change your board.

That said, unless you really want that RAM, you don't need it. This will also work
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231941

Same with the PSU, it's overkill and too pricey. You could easily get a 400W PSU and not sweat it. But, it doesn't hurt to have a bit of headroom, so
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bkp323/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx
Or, if you don't mind rebates then
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151187
Or, https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1365561-REG/seasonic_electronics_ssr_550px_focus_plus_550w_platinum.html or https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151193

Also, you don't really need an NVMe SSD either unless you're moving lots of big files around. You could easily get a 500GB SSD instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fgZFf7/crucial-mx500-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct500mx500ssd4

Since that case only comes with one fan though, you'll need another as an exhaust in order to have good airflow. If you don't mind controlling your fan's speed and setting a custom fan curve then get this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6
But if you don't want to do that then get this instead https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGVG

Unfortunately I have a small case that doesn’t offer much for air flow, I have the bottom and side fans as intake, and the back and top two fans as exhaust.

What fans should I look at? I was looking at these Noctua fans

They recently added a grey: Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM, High Performance Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 1700 RPM (120mm, Grey) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_DYAmDbE5A1418

These 120mm Noctua redux fans are $13.90...seems like a good comparison if you don't mind not having the rgbleed.

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1700-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGY6/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=noctua+120mm&qid=1566349154&s=gateway&sr=8-4