Reddit reviews NVIDIA GTX 970 Gaming 4G Graphics Card

Found this Nvidia GTX 970 for £295. It's has one of the best price-performance ratio for high end cards atm

I would suggest you do more independent research before you make such a damning statement, the 970 outperfroms the 290 by a decent margin 1080p and still at 1440p. As for the 290x, anandtech are posting that the 970 outperforms it at 1080p and again in a few cases at 1440p, not to mention the MSI 290x is £284.99 and the MSI 970 is cheaper at £279.99. Although I'd take that with a pinch of salt because its an aftermarket evga 970 vs a reference 290x.

In my opinion it's hard to beat the price/performance at 1080 - 1440p of the GTX 970, beyond that AMD do have an edge with what I think is a larger memory bus 512-bit vs 256, although the 970 isn't too far behind.
Once you start getting to a point where the cards are using over 3.5GB of their VRAM you're gonna run into issues with the strength of the cards regardless because as far as I'm concerned we don't yet have the hardware for 4k efficiently.

Well you'd need a new graphics card and cpu.. but to upgrade cpu... you'd need a new motherboard which means new ram aswell... and on top of that a new psu to power it all .. which basically the entire computer.. so costly
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Unless someone can think of a decent cpu that fits the same socket..~~

Edit: ok after some digging this is what we got:

~~CPU: Intel X6800
(http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=152054248661&alt=web )
£40 ish~~

~~RAM: 4gb Ddr2
(http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=191857898668&alt=web )
£20 ish~~

~~GPU: this is very flexible let's throw in a gtx 970 for now (it mightnt be supported this can be checked later)
(MSI NVIDIA GTX 970 Gaming Twin Frozr HDMI DVI-I DP Graphics Card (4GB, PCI Express, DDR5, 256 Bit) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NOP536Y/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_tKtkxbGQRE3JA)
£275~~

~~Psu: 500w
(EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR - 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_fLtkxb3Q3SQ76)
£35~~

You might want to consider a bigger hard drive maybe an ssd, also the gpu I suggested is most certainly overkill for everything else and mightnt work but it's only to give an idea for now.. I'm not even sure how well the x6800 will perform, hopefully someone more in the known can add to this

edit: i was talking rubbish

You don't need another CPU. I suggest a Nvidia 970.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NOP536Y/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1/276-8986364-6271910?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_r=1H32E6EBNTMW1XJ9BYY0&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=479289247&pf_rd_i=B00NFFAW50

The PSU is fine for the video card (lower power GPU)

Motherboard is cool.

With the Nvidia GTX 970 you can get 1080p/60fps/Max ALL GAMES {except Watch Dogs} (much better than GTX 780, I dont know who would even recommend that anymore... So outdated (not in graphic wise, but its just outdone in everything by the 970)

You would only need a CPU upgrade, if you want to do HEAVY computer Twitch.Tv Game streaing or if you want to do HEAVY Video work 1080p/60 fps rendering long 20 minute videos, etc

Once you buy the new video card you don't need ANYTHING else if you're just gaming. 1080p/60fps/Max all games Have fun.

So like this?http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-970-Graphics-Express/dp/B00NOP536Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416876920&sr=8-1&keywords=nvidia+970

No, it depends what it is being sent. Take a look at this graphics card: https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/B00NOP536Y, it says 'This item's packaging will indicate what is inside.' on the products page, so will get sent out without Amazon packaging unless you request it. Anything that's sold under the Sex & Sexuality category will be discretely packed.

What kind of case do you have?

If it is not a small case, you're better off with a non-blower style card.

The MSI GTX 970 has one of the better coolers on the card. It also has a silent mode where the fans don't turn on when the card is hardly being used so that is nice. Should overclock quite nicely.

This will outperform two 760s easily.

This is your best option at your price point.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00NOP536Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1453568694&sr=8-2&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=gpu&dpPl=1&dpID=51rvrcQj2TL&ref=plSrch

PM me if you need help.

I wanted to ask if this gtx 970: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NOP536Y/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=07AXB2JV9KMW222BQ9X1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455344027&pf_rd_i=468294#productDetails

is not better than the one suggested bcs there is 5 dollars difference in price which is not much.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00NOP536Y/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
Cheapest one in stock is about the same price.

The i5-6500 is what ive been looking at. I know that bundle was around this price range but it dropped to 700 thats why I was wondering it it would be worth it.

What about this GPU instead, as a £400 is too much for me. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NOP536Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Gonna wait for the reimbursement from Overlockers then I'll order this. I checked a few pics and with the MSI card the PCB is visible so I'm assuming it'll fit, right?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NOP536Y/?tag=pcp0f-21

Hi Guys!

First time posting here, I'm in the process of picking the parts I want for a new PC. I'm thinking of going with the GTX 970 as my graphics card. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what, besides price, make, and size, is the difference between these two? Is either objectively better than the other?

Number 1

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Thanks for your help :)

Well I was thinking of getting a GTX 970 with it, is it still worth getting even with all this crap about "3.5 GB"?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-NVIDIA-Gaming-Graphics-Express/dp/B00NOP536Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=msi%2B970&qid=1554730528&s=gateway&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1 . I had this

Want to get https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-RTX-2060-VENTUS-6G/dp/B07MJC8XKD/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=msi+2060&qid=1554730573&s=gateway&sr=8-2

You can get a GTX 970 for £269 on Amazon right now - link.

It's what I have at the minute and I've always had permanent 60fps on games, the only one I haven't is in Fallout 4, which has known issues with lag.

Whoops. By streaming I meant watching/listening haha. I saw other people specify that in their build requirements and it just didn't clock on that they were the ones streaming (my lack of expertise is really showing). So anyway absolute performance isn't a must and I won't be streaming so some money could be saved there.

Would it be worth using a bit of the money saved for this? I only ask because when looking at the keyboard it was a frequently bought with item. Don't really know what I'm talking about though so feel free to tell me if I'm being even more stupid.

ill give you that witcher does look alot worse on Xbox then PC because the game is optimized that what my point is. Yes the PC version looks good but is terrible optimized so FPS is over the place why xbox setting arnt quite as good as high but is steady 25-30fps.

this is my point your missing. at launch the PC will in theory be better unless they pull a batman.

But at the moment xbox is better optimised and if you take RES and FPS into account the Xbox is better at the moment pending the iminet patch on PC.

As for you PC WOW US prices are cheap.

GTX 970 = 265
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NOP536Y?keywords=Gtx970&qid=1450382089&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

MB = £123( closest i could find) Maximus VI gene
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MAXIMUS-Socket-4DDR3-Maximum-microATX/dp/B00E5Z052Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450382152&sr=8-1&keywords=Maximus+VI


CPU£235
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I74770K-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CO8TBQ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450382234&sr=8-1&keywords=I7+4770k

So thats the basics not including Ram, HDD, Case or power supply.

thats about £600 ($890) for three components at the basic level, plus another £200 for everything else, Plus extras, monitor unless you have this hooked up to TV and mouse etc.

as for a whore.

a, but it would still look better on PC, also I doubt that I would barely get 30fps I would maintain that consistently with a 970. Game can't even hit 20fps on xbox. like I said I haven't played it so I can't know for certain.

was a reply to my response of

This game is not optimised for PC at the moment it might look better but running at 10fps is it really.

As you have not played either version your point is null and void.

Next point where have i said

"PC is better DAE FINK IM RIGHT? "

or my title: "How about you title your posts, without your petty opinions on PC."

Didnt mention in my title and one line

"So far I'm impressed looks better and runs smoother then on PC. "

for you ill edit the text to say my PC

Yeah. Im looking at this. But I will be happy to just get the performance of my 660 for the time being.

If you do get the 970 I would suggest you get this one from msi What games are you going to be playing on this computer?

I don't think your link is working, but this one. Getting an IT guy to install it for me this week as I don't trust my large clumsy mitts.

http://www.zalman.com/global/product/Product_Read.php?Idx=615

270mm gpu clearance ._. I might be ok..

Is this the one you have? http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-970-Graphics-Express/dp/B00NOP536Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1415658544&sr=8-2&keywords=970

I edited my previous comment to suggest the GTX 750ti, cheaper than 270x and worse performing... The 270x would definitely give more fps. You could get either of those 2 cards though and a 256GB mx100 SSD. That combo would yield great results as upgrades. If all you care about is more fps then spend it all on a video card. You will probably be able to find some GTX 970 model for under $300 by Christmas. That is an upgrade that will definitely last a long time.

Edit: this MSI GTX 970 Gaming is what you want if you go that route. £267.95 when in stock from Amazon.

Teilweise sogar günstiger, wenn ich mal so rumschau:

https://www.amazon.de/MSI-GeForce-GTX-970-4G/dp/B00NOP536Y/

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GTX-970-4G/dp/B00NN0GEXQ/

Okay, good start. Would I be looking for something along these lines?

I have borrowed some money, so £200-230 is about what i can do. Is the difference between AMD card and this one (Nvidia?) going to be an issue at all? I'd have to uninstall drivers and install new ones right?

thanks again!

Here's an updated list, taking into account the advices so far:

• case: Enermax Skalene (don't care about the case itself, just looked for something not too bulky, not too expensive, sold/shipped by amazon france)
  
• motherboard:
  AsRock H170M PRO4 motherboard Intel Micro ATX H170 Socket LGA1151
  
  
• psu: EVGA 210-GQ-0650-V2 PC 650 W
  
• ram: Corsair CMK16GX4M2A240​0C14 Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2400Mhz CL14
  
• graphics: MSI GTX970 Gaming 4G Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 1114 MHz 4096 Mo PCI-Express
  
• ssd: sandisk plus 240Gb 2.5" SDSSDA-240G-G25

yeah you're right, it's about £15 cheaper

https://www.amazon.de/MSI-GeForce-GTX-970-4G/dp/B00NOP536Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464263721&sr=8-1&keywords=970

Personally I would go for a 970 over a 980. Same VRAM and it can be OC'd pretty well to compete with the 980. MSI do a pretty good one- https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-970-Graphics-Express/dp/B00NOP536Y

Yes, the prices of the GTX 970 etc have plummited https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-970-Graphics-Express/dp/B00NOP536Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1466288834&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+970

I'd recommend comparing the 4590 with the 4690K:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4590

For a small amount of money more you can get higher specs:

4590
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-3-30GHz-Graphics-Technology-Socket/dp/B00K5J22GG

4690K
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-i5-4690K-Processor-Graphics-LGA-1150/dp/B00KPRWB9G

And yes, for your build you will only need, approximately, a 400W power supply as your build roughly needs 326W of power, but I'd say possibly go for a 450W or 500W PSU, incase you want to overclock/upgrade in the future.

And so save further upgrades on the PSU get a Gold Certified, or higher, and get it fully modular, not Semi-modular, if you can afford it. It will keep your case cooler having less wired, and it will look nicer, if youre into that sort of thing.

Also for the GPU, if you do get the parts you have listed, maybe splash out a extra 100 dollars on the graphics card and get a MSI Nvidia GTX 970 4GB, its amazing and your system wont be 'bottlenecked'. (Not sure how to use that word in context correctly.

MSI GTX 970:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-970-Graphics-Express/dp/B00NOP536Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427549040&sr=8-1&keywords=MSI+GTX+970

Also, do not just buy a SSD, you will need a HDD aswel, I'd recommend only using your SSD for your OS, and other programs you use all the time and would like to preform faster. Your SSD will become very slow quickly otherwise, and need replacing frequently (I have found any ways!)

These are all my opinions btw, its not fact, just opinion.

Also, keep in mind you have a Mini ITS and a mini tower, make sure all of your parts will fit in there before purchasing