Sure, and how about the overthrow of the democratically elected Mosaddegh in Iran in 1952? Or how about the countless meddling in Central and South America? Speaking domestically, why is it that they always infiltrate peaceful groups of citizens and then play the role of provocateur?

The U.S. federal government should basically never be trusted and yet it seems each generation falls prey to their lies and propaganda - especially with regard to foreign policy. WMD's anyone? The American citizenry should always view everything the government says with an inherent distrust. That should be the default position of the citizenry. They have lost the privilege of being trusted. They don't work for or serve the interests of average Americans in the least. When the corporate/MIC/establishment elite want to meddle in another countries affairs or start a war, they will do whatever lying or black bag operations they need to in order to achieve their objective. They've done it plenty before and they will continue doing it until we refuse to allow it any more.

The U.S. government has put down so many populist movements and meddled/overthrown so many governments in the name of "making the world safe for capitalism" it's crazy. No other country even comes close. Yes, that's right, not democracy - that is the biggest lie of them all. The U.S. couldn't give two shits about democracy. Not even here at home. They just want to keep us believing that we live in a democracy and keep us participating in their rigged system so that we won't revolt.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh

http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409/ref=tmm_pap_title_0/191-0374213-3312233

http://www.amazon.com/All-Shahs-Men-American-Middle/dp/047018549X/ref=sr_1_1_title_0_main?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321374076&sr=1-1

Good next up:

http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409/

http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/0452287081/

http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Deadliest-Export-Democracy-Everything/dp/1783601671/

in case you're here for the Tibetan Genocide is fake link... see the 2nd half of this message. I tried replying to the badhistory sub but guess what? your mod removed my post citing a rule violation. He could have simply asked me to edit but instead banned me outright. Scared of sourced facts perhaps?

Excellent work again.

The idea that an entire paper is anti China propaganda is within the realm of reason as historical precedents show...

● https://np.reddit.com/r/CIWO/comments/3qttki/tiananmen_square_massacre/

● https://np.reddit.com/r/CIWO/comments/3qtu2k/falun_gong_persecution_organ_harvesting_aka_falun/

● https://np.reddit.com/r/CIWO/comments/3qyqpg/evil_communist_mao_committed_the_greatest/

● Tibetan genocide is also fake

http://i.imgur.com/EcswTEL.jpg

Colonialism, Genocide, Tibet - Sautman-2006-Colonialism-Genocide-Tibet.pdf:

http://repository.keeptibetfree.net/pdf/Sautman-2006-Colonialism-Genocide-Tibet.pdf

 

Then there is all the subhuman shit they did to other weaker nations detailed at

● http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-timeline-of-cia-atrocities/5348804

● http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-to-start-a-war-the-american-use-of-war-pretext-incidents/28554

● http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409/

● http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-C-I-Interventions-II--Updated/dp/1567512526/

 

Even their white gentlemen™ vs the "evil and oppressive Asian man" is totally fake, but how fake? See the stats for yourself

http://i.imgur.com/VCNgVeU.jpg

Pathological lying is the way of the "master race".



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Tibetan Genocide debunked

First of all, there is no genocide.

>A central element of the narrative circulated by the Tibet Movement has been that China has carried out genocide and practised colonialism in Tibet. These notions are, for the most part, uncritically accepted by politicians and the media, especially in the West. This essay challenges such characterizations as inept
>
>A discourse of Tibet and genocide, initially carried out by international cold warriors, began with the self exiling of the Dalai Lama in 1959. Reports on ‘genocide in Tibet’ were directed by Purshattom Trikamdas, head of an anti China Indian political party
committed to ‘the liberation of Tibet’, and published by Trikamdas’ International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) (Shalom, 1984, pp. 66 – 7; ICJ, 1959; 1960). The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), which helped spirit the Dalai Lama out of Tibet and conducted a proxy war against China in Tibet, funded the ICJ (Grunfeld, 1987, p. 142; Waldman, 2000; Knaus, 1999, p. 168). Its reports argued that attacks on Tibetan Buddhism were genocide because to be Tibetan is to be Buddhist and Tibetan Buddhism was being eliminated, even in the absence of mass killing. The Genocide Convention (1951), however, requires intent to physically destroy an ethnic or religious group in whole or in part; yet Chinese Buddhism was also attacked during this period.
>
> In the case of Tibet, a political goal also accounts for unsupported charges of genocide. The aim is mobilization, especially in the West, where charges go unchallenged due to confusion over what is genocide, the sacralized popularity of the Dalai Lama, a constructed image of Tibetan victimhood, anti Communism, and anti Chinese racism.

Colonialism, Genocide, Tibet - Sautman-2006-Colonialism-Genocide-Tibet.pdf:

http://repository.keeptibetfree.net/pdf/Sautman-2006-Colonialism-Genocide-Tibet.pdf

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Every legitimate gov? You mean like Britain correct?

http://i.imgur.com/C4ZBbHK.jpg

1903 photos of Tibet revealed: Pics taken show Mount Everest to Westerners for first time | Daily Mail Online:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383412/1903-photos-Tibet-revealed-Pics-taken-Mount-Everest-Westerners-time.html

what's wrong? your "Christian" leaders never told you?

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http://i.imgur.com/4vhKizo.jpg

Friendly Fuedalism - The Tibet Myth:

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html

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Finally, for some comedy courtesy "all men are created equal champion of human rights" (who are now committing and funding genocide in the Middle East)

>In America, we proudly call it Manifest Destiny and never trouble ourselves with how we got much of California and Texas from Mexico, never mind the rest of the country and our sordid history with Native Americans.
>
>Our history with the native people of Hawaii has been relatively brief and quite brutal and there exists a tenacious independence movement. Still, there is no talk in the mainstream media and among the Hollywood celebrity activist circuit of Hawaiian independence, not to mention Puerto Rican independence or the American Indian movement.
>
>Government repression of these movements also escapes media scrutiny. Before we lecture China, we may
want to tend to our own backyard.
>
>Under the Dalai Lama, was there religious freedom - Was there any freedom - Actually, no. We would recognize the Dalai Lama's Tibet as a medieval religious theocracy with a small elite class served by a large and oppressed serf population. The Dalai Lama ruled a region with no religious freedom, no political freedom, indeed, no human rights of any kind. The rulers were ruthless. Torture and mutilation were widespread. Poverty and starvation were rampant. It was Shangri La only in the West's imagination.
>
>Richard Gere, Sharon Stone and other Hollywood devotees may be surprised at their idol's current positions. The Dalai Lama condemns abortion and homosexuality while accepting prostitution.

For decades the Dalai Lama secured millions of dollars from the CIA

>
>Despite its shortcomings, Chinese rule has provided the Tibetan region with infrastructure and public schooling and provides Tibetans with widespread opportunities and a degree of personal freedom unheard of under the feudal theocracy of the dalai lamas.

Tibet: The Shangri-La that exists only in the West's imagination - The Salt Lake Tribune:
http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/opinion/ci_10359098

Seems strange that China would "commit genocide against Tibetans" with infrastructure and public schooling...

I believe you're a bit taken in by the neocon propaganda. Muslims don't hate us for our freedoms and they aren't too much different than you or I in their life goals.

The part I believe that you haven't heard ever is how the US has for decades oppressed and exploited other countries. There are numerous examples of US economic manipulation and exploitation that cause serious hardship for the poor of other countries. This leads to a lot of underlying resentment for western style of business practices and what can be spun by the neocons as "liberalism".

If you truly want to educate yourself on the actions of the US around the world, I would suggest reading the book Overthrow.

http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1334371037&sr=1-1

You may want to look at this book, it's pretty good.

I know I'm late to the party and there are a lot of good answers, and there are a lot of "hur der cause koran" replies...

This isn't so much on the extremism rise in Islam but more to the anti-western sentiment. This is more of a summary and lacking a lot of detail but a lot of it can be traced back to Operation Ajax in 1953 where MI6, with the help of the CIA, decided to overthrow the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh and put "their guy" (the Shah) in charge because Mosaddegh wanted to nationalize Iranian oil, thus making AIOC (now part of BP) pay more taxes if they wanted to drill in Iran.

It is hard to make a TLDR to the situation in Iran between the coup and the revolution in 1979 but essentially. Shah turned out to be a dick as a ruler, people were pissed at the US and GB for helping force the pro west regime change, started gathering in mosques since the Shah banned public gatherings due to riots, anti-west / radical clerics get into the heads of people that are pissed and things start going downhill from there.

Now you have a hard anti-west sentiment growing around the region and the west essentially cock blocking any attempt at people getting back on their feet so you have a lot of poor, uneducated people that have a lot of hate toward the US. They may not be completely sure why but as is the case with most extremely uneducated people they listen to what they consider to be smart people, in this case the clerics who are telling them to hate the US even more. A lot of the terrorists in the field (the meat shields sent out to die) are illiterate and couldn't read the Koran if you put it in front of them so they only know what they are told.

It doesn't help the US when it decides to go in every few years and bomb things back to the stone age. There may be justification to some of the bombing like removing someone who is truly bad but some of the people that live there don't see it that way, obviously. All they see is the US rolling in with their tanks blowing their houses and killing their children. This doesn't justify what the terrorists are doing by any means in my opinion but it may help shed some light on why they are doing it.

The more detailed read you could start with:
1953 Iranian coup d'état - Wiki


Steven Kinzer's - All the Shah's Men and Overthrow are also pretty good.

Another comprehensive, really well written book on the same subject.

Read "Overthrow" by Stephen Kinzer. It's a great book that details all of the 14 governments the US has had a part in overthrowing. He does a great job of establishing the context in each situation, which often highlights how short sighted the people involved in these events really were.

> bit dull to claim that the U.S goal of the Korean war was to overthrow the PRC

It has always been the goal and it still is

USA’s warfare against China 1/2 | http://www.voltairenet.org/article177063.html

USA’s warfare against China 2/2 | http://www.voltairenet.org/article177116.html

 

Here is how America spreads by democracy....through government toppling

http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409/

The book Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq is a great read and goes into detail on just about every example you could want over the last hundred years. You can buy it on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409

add this puppy to the pile

We've done it again and again.

A great book on this subject is called Overthrow. It doesn't exclusively deal with Central America, but a good chunk of it does.

"Destabilize" kind of implies doing things subtly tho.

When was the last time we even practiced that? It's been pretty direct since the Banana Republic days. We've six years to fix it, or else expect another 150 years of revolving door dictators in SA and the ME

I'd say the opposite, and the constant pressure to get modern Americans to think of themselves as "consumers" or "workers" instead of citizens has been a major step in the wrong direction. Thank you, corportatist overlords.

BTW: Corporatism = government coercive power + corporate wealth. See Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq for a good look at one element of this.

Drunk or not, I hope you keep this up.

It sounds like you really gained a lot from your time in, namely: (1) personal growth and maturity, and (2) a broadened world view from experience. Experience as someone actively taking part in US foreign policy, and also just as a young American going overseas and seeing how the rest of the world lives (and how truly fortunate we are here). Just that you called your 16-year-old self "naive" shows this change in mindset. Also, I think that any introspection is healthy and natural, especially for such a serious topic. It's a tough time, especially watching the current shit-storm in Iraq with those ISIS assholes.


I appreciate and generally agree with Nate Fick's view of the US on the international stage:
http://youtu.be/7mBr1UydKf0?t=18m2s

Sure, the US has done some not-so-great things or maybe done well-intentioned things the wrong way. But I don't think we're the bad guys in the broader scheme of things. Yeah, that's up for debate. Also, I'm gonna guess you're not evil on the individual level.

and more along a similar line, specifically about the Middle East and elsewhere:
http://youtu.be/fQu_7hNjPqY?t=3m27s



a serious issue, but a little [British] humor on a related note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY

To allow companies access to cheap labor and resources. Low taxes & tariffs, minimal regulation typical neoliberal stuff. Access to financial markets bank loans, investments etc. Also to establish a network of military infrastructure to enable future conquest and prevent competing countries to do the same.

Some recommended reading:
http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409


http://www.amazon.com/Shock-Doctrine-Rise-Disaster-Capitalism/dp/0312427999/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1427577478&sr=1-1&keywords=shock+doctrine


You can find PDFs of both, I just linked the amazon page because they're both good books and quite cheap.

Hawaii 1880s. A group of sugar plantation owners arranged to usurp control of the islands from the monarchs to lower labor standards and import tariffs to the US. Then came the banana republics, the Nicarauga Canal, America's war of aggression against the Spaniards and John Foster Dulles shitting all over the world because of communists he thought he saw.

Might I recommend All The Shah's Men author Stephen Kinzer's Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change

Amazon link to the book he's referring to.

And might I suggest another book on the topic? This one is written by a former US State Dept. historian: Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II.

I agree with your overall sentiment, but it is strange to be skeptical on this issue, which has overwhelming evidence.

I think there is a danger in receiving everything passively from Reddit, you have to actively seek out ideas and information from a wide range of sources. If you have a broader base of knowledge it is easier to know what seems fishy (on Reddit or anywhere else).

If you want a quick, moderate overview on the topic at hand here is a good book:
http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409

This is a good place to start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow_(book)

https://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409

(maybe some of the section on Guatemala at least is in the preview - I didn't look)

This book is also well worth reading, it expanded his section on Iran in Overthrow. Another long-term foreign policy disaster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_Shah%27s_Men

http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409

your welcome

there is a really good book called Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq that outlines all of the times that the CIA has pulled this shit. an easy read that i highly recommend

Stephen Kinzer's "Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq"

It's a good read, although it may be a little biased.

https://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409

There are a few chapters and a larger overview of America's foreign policy over the last couple hundred years. You can also find it swashbuckling.

tl;dr: American exceptionalism gone rogue.

Being proud of things can be fine, once you see yourself/your country/your religion as literally superior to everyone else in the world you're running into issues. I can highly recommend e.g. Stephen Kinzer on this topic.

>(The USA) are the only ones in modern history who are convinced that by bringing their political and economic system to others, they are doing God's work.

Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq by Stephen Kinzer?

Since you seem to like to read books, I recommend you read Overthrow: America’s Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq. If you would like a preview, you can watch the video interview. Please let me know whether video news site is blocked by the military firewalls.

(amazon review)

"Regime change" did not begin with the administration of George W. Bush, but has been an integral part of U.S. foreign policy for more than one hundred years. Starting with the toppling of the Hawaiian monarchy in 1893, the United States has not hesitated to overthrow governments that stood in the way of its political and economic goals. The invasion of Iraq in 2003 is but the latest example of the dangers inherent in these operations.

In Overthrow, Stephen Kinzer tells the stories of the audacious politicians, spies, military commanders, and business executives who took it upon themselves to depose foreign regimes. He details the three eras of America's regime-change century--the imperial era, which brought Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Philippines, Nicaragua, and Honduras under America's sway; the cold war era, which employed covert action against Iran, Guatemala, South Vietnam, and Chile; and the invasion era, which saw American troops toppling governments in Grenada, Panama, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

Kinzer explains why the U.S. government has pursued these operations and why so many of them have had disastrous long-term consequences, making Overthrow a cautionary tale that serves as an urgent warning as the United States seeks to define its role in the modern world.

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http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1411871430&sr=1-1&keywords=overthrow

Overthrow by Stephen Kinzer

Overthrow by Stephen Kinzer would be a great modern history book to look into.

Kinzer is a journalist so he writes in an engaging manner. Parts of the book are even quite funny. Also it really is kind of "forbidden" history that isn't commonly talked about in the US. It'll really open your eyes when it comes to foreign policy.

Overthrow by Stephen Kinzer

There was a book written called Overthrow that you might be interested in.

The very last thing coup enthusiasts will tell you is "study Latin American history". They will telll you "Don't read Stephen Kinzer's book 'Overthrow: A Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq'

A great history of the US's manipulation of foreign governments
https://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409

oh rly?

Report Shows US Invasion, Occupation of Iraq Left One Million Dead

http://www.globalresearch.ca/report-shows-us-invasion-occupation-of-iraq-left-1-million-dead/5442905

 

in case you think this is some "unique" problem..

http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-to-start-a-war-the-american-use-of-war-pretext-incidents/28554

http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-C-I-Interventions-II--Updated/dp/1567512526/

http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409/

 

lots of blood on them hands of the Leaders of the Free World.