Reddit reviews Perfect Barrier Card Sleeves (100 Piece), Clear, 64 x 89mm

So I think that a pauper cube sounds like what you want to do. This is an all-commons cube, which, like you say, will allow fun, well-balanced play. It'll also be a bit lower complexity than a power cube would be, which is better for new players (as opposed to things like putting Eldrazi under a Mimic Vat).

Here's a link to an article about pauper cube with a link to a list at the bottom of the article.

The cards themselves will likely cost less than $100 - you may already have a good number of them - and then you would just need sleeves. I recommend double sleeving with something like the KMC Perfect Size inner sleeves and the KMC Hyper Matte sleeves outside. This will keep your cards in good condition (yes, they're commons, but it's nice if they stay nice looking. Some people also choose to foil out their pauper cube, since it's a lot cheaper to do than foiling out a powered or higher-powered cube, and double sleeving will prevent bending).

All in all for probably less than $200 you can make a fun pauper cube. Good luck!

It's less expensive for me on amazon.ca shipping included.

2 Perfect size Cad$10.70 or Usd$7.83

3 Hyper mat Cad$20.49 or Usd$15

Total on amazon.ca Usd$22.83 vs Usd$26.34 on massdrop

I decided to start collecting with Steam Siege and Generations. Figuring out the best way to keep stuff was daunting at first. After going through all of TCC's videos and lurking in this and the collection sub, this is the system I settled on:

-Each Set gets its own 1" binder. Be sure to use a D-ring style so the pages sit evenly on top of each other. I like these from Office Max/Depot because they open and close easily and have a pin-hole style of lock so it ensures alignment of the rings and minimizes catching pages.

--In the inside pocket of the cover, I put the Trainer's Guide from the ETB of the set, fits nicely in the larger of the 2 pockets. Make sure you don't put anything in the back cover's pockets, as that could make an uneven surface for your cards to rest on if you leave the binders on their sides.

--Then, each binder starts with a 4-pocket binder sheet to store one of each booster art for the set.

--After the booster page, I organize the cards by set number, starting with the core set followed by the parallel set. I use Ultra pro's 18 pocket side loading card pages for storing the cards. Pretty much hands down the best. I prefer the black backing and only want to put 1 card in each pocket. Nice fit, though I noticed some scratches/imperfections in clarity on the batch I got. Not a big deal for me, as they are still very durable, but may be for others.

---Basic cards go into a KMC perfect fit sleeve upside-down and then into the binder page. Good protection, tight fit, not too much cost. KMC's are pretty universally accepted as the best. As some have said, too tight a fit could damage a card, too loose and it wont fit for double sleeving. I've never had a KMC perfect fit that was too tight, maybe a little loose, but never tight that it could cause damage. Looser ones I just put to the side for storing non-foil cards and not for double sleeving.

---Any foil card (Holos, parallels, URs, SRs, etc.) go into a KMC perfect fit upside down, and then into a black KMC Hyper Mat before going into the binder. I usually double sleeve a stack of cards and then put them into a tight deck box or under a stack of books for a week or so to squeeze out all the air before putting them into the binder.

-Any extra cards then get stored in the ETB for the set they are from. Organize them however you like, but I keep one section for a playset of up to 4 of each card, and any copies above that go into a second 'trash/trade' section. Eventually I may put the playsets of 4 cards into penny sleeves just to keep things sorted more easily, but I don't have too much surplus yet to warrant it. Again, I always keep things ordered by set number.

--Here, any extra foil cards will get sleeved. Right now I am just using Ultra Pro's deck protectors since I ran out of perfect fits, but really don't like how they have the stippled surface on the inside of the sleeve as well. I can feel it scratching the edges/back of the card each time I sleeve one. Particularly valuable rares or holos may get double sleeved for better protection, but still get stored in the box.

-For actual play, I would stick to KMC hyper mats. Good shuffle feel, and last longer than the Ultra Pro's. I played a game with a buddy with my deck sleeved in the Ultra pro's and loved the shuffle feel, but the sleeves just break too easily if you catch a corner. Also they aren't opaque, KMC's are definitely the better looking.

KMC Perfect Fit are sleeves that are designed to fit perfectly on normal sized cards, and thus work for Pokemon cards. They will thicken them up a little bit. They are completely transparent (no words, markings, or anything else on the sleeve), just a clear, colourless sleeve. They are very good quality.

Here they are on Canadian Amazon (would be cheaper on American if you live in the US): https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0007N7PB2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Amazon have them but sadly the prices aren't great. I've came across the same problem as you're having too. For now I've ordered a 3-ring binder along with pocket pages and also some sleeves. The sleeves and pocket pages arrived a couple of days ago and the sleeves fit perfectly into the pocket pages. I'm still waiting on the binder but I'm looking forward to it. Least this'll keep my cards safe until I get my hands on albums.

Sorry I can't be of more help!

These are my favorite card sleeves. Card Barrier Perfect Size.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007N7PB2/ref=oh_details_o07_s01_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I like them because they fit standard cards perfectly. A lot of sleeves have some space between the card and the sleeve edge... these have virtually no space... very snug fit.

Are the sleeves you're referring too these KMC perfect fits? - https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Barrier-Sleeves-Piece-Clear/dp/B0007N7PB2

I always used these for my binder as double sleeves and I love them, but I find it kinda hard to shuffle with them sometimes and they kind of slide off PC white easily as well.

I have used these to great success: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007N7PB2/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use those as the inner sleeve and Dragon Shield as the outer sleeve, although I'm sure you could use almost any other outer sleeve as well. As /u/InkmothNexus points out, double-sleeved + top loader and in a safe, dry place is going to do the trick.

> Sentinels, 7 Wonders, Pandemic

For non-CCGs I use KMC Perfect Fit sleeves. They're super thin (doesn't completely wreck deck/stack height,) fit cards quite snugly, and provides plenty of scuff/wet protection as well as easier/side shuffling.

My RFTG+expansions, Pandemic, and Netrunner are all fully sleeved with them. Probably have over a thousand cards sleeved in them so far.

I'm really surprised nobody else really seems to use them. They're kind of pricey for not-exactly-penny-sleeves but the production tolerances obviously much stricter. (Last pack of cheap sleeves I got essentially had two different sizes of sleeves in the same pack. They literally went in the trash.)

For MtG/CCGs where you've got single cards valued at $10+ I use Dragon Shields. For drafting I sleeve everything Perfect Fits. Just because its better than playing raw.

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edit: In my experience, all sleeves are oil slick when they're fresh. Play a couple times to break them in and they're fine.

Regarding dragon sleeves and splitting, I find Dragon Sleeves split FAR more often than Perfect Fits. Maybe all KMCs are better in that regard, or maybe fitting much tighter just means less stuff to snag. To Dragon Sleeves' credit, you get 105-110 in a "box of 100" so you do have some extras when they split. It would be infuriating to buy a box of a certain color for a MtG Commander deck (100 cards exactly,) have one split, and then need to buy another entire box of that color.

I do this with my Scion Dragon Tribal EDH deck. I can't tell you his setup, but I can tell you what I've found to work well:

KMC Perfect Fits, as the inner-sleeve, put on upside down, so the opening is at the bottom of the card.

Any Normal Sleeve works as your mid sleeve. For the tightest fit, use KMC Matte (NOT SILK); however I use Ultra-Pro Illustrated ones, because the outer sleeves make the shuffle feel nice; so no worries about the middle one. These are put on normally, opening at the top of the card.

Finally, KMC Character Guards. These go on upside down, with the openings at the bottom; and make the deck feel like a more smooth KMC shuffle-feel. Wonderful together, but be prepared for a REALLY thick deck. Can be tough to shuffle all the cards with smaller hands.

In total; you'll need 1 set of Inner-Sleeves; 1-2 Sets of Middle-Sleeves depending if you buy a back with at least 100 in it; or if you just get a couple packs of 60-80; and 2 packs of Outer Sleeves. It can be a bit pricy, but nothing protects like it; 'cept maybe a top loader over each, haha.

Hope this helps!

EDIT: While I would 100% Recommend Dragon Shield Matte sleeves to anyone who plays Magic; I wouldn't recommend Triple sleeving with them as the middle sleeve. They're a little taller than most other sleeves, and might stick out more with the outer-sleeves. Haven't tested, but be Wary; like good ol' Norin.

Are these the ones that you got?

http://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Perfect-Sleeves/dp/B0007N7PB2

http://www.amazon.com/Hyper-Matte-Sleeves-80-Pack-Black/dp/B00CJ7415M/ref=sr_1_2?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1449515713&sr=1-2

Are they still okay to play with once the sleeves are on?

Perfect fit sleeves fit your card... well, perfectly. They are just barely bigger than the card and are meant to be used with regular sleeves. Just an added layer of protection. I used to use them when I played MTG for some of my super expensive decks. They make your decks super bulky and I personally don’t think they are necessary unless you are playing some super expensive cards or if you wanna add a tiny degree of water protection to your cards. Also be warned that some people claim that certain kinds of perfect fits can warp your cards.
here is a link for perfect fits

Penny sleeves are way bigger than cards and can offer some protection if you’re just putting cards in a binder or top loader. They’re not really for playing. (Your cards will fall out and it will be impossible to shuffle.) Most people use them for storage. Personally I use them when I mail cards in a trade or something. It’s really not doing much except maybe protection from scratches. When I say they are big I mean you could probably put 5-7 cards in 1 penny sleeve.

here is a link for penny sleeves

Hope I could help


never tried and never will try. Don’t take my word for it.

The formats are always {set} onwards. Any set released after the given set, including the given set, is legal in that format. The current standard format, for example, is Primal Clash onwards.

Something worth noting is, as Bulbapedia says, a set is only legal after 3 fridays of release in the US. This doesn't mean you can't play the cards you get, it just means you can't use them in official events (though I'd make sure that whoever you're against is okay with you using the new cards first).

The format usually changes late August/early September, and while Expanded is still Black & White onwards, Standard is always a much smaller card pool, to allow variety and newer cards. Sets usually stick around for 2 years (ish).

Either way, have fun with collecting. There's no better feeling than pulling an amazing card. I highly recommend double sleeve-ing your most valuable/favourite cards (a perfect fit upside-down, then a regular sleeve over the top), as this will protect them from liquids pretty well.

Penny sleeves have been my LotR LCG mainstay for a while now, but my head has been turned by the slightly more expensive 'inner' sleeve packs. Made for obsessive M:tG players to doublesleeve their cards, these are like penny sleeves that fit the cards precisely. No gaps, snug fit.

Scuse the UK amazon link, but these are the ones I have bought:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/KMC-Perfect-Size-Sleeves-100/dp/B0007N7PB2

I may, slowly, use these to resleeve my character cards, as the flabby overhang on the penny sleeves just looks and feels terrible by comparison. These perfect fit ones have ruined the others for me! Get them at your own risk!

I sleeved mine with https://www.amazon.ca/KMC-Sleeves-Perfect-Fit-100-Pack/dp/B0007N7PB2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484944107&sr=8-1&keywords=kmc+perfect+fit

Then I made a new insert from foam core.
It just barely fits, but it does. I will try to remember to post a picture when I get home.

Get the Japanese perfect fits, not the ultrapro. Dragon shield are fine. I use them too, also kmc matte sleeves are great. Just double sleeve your decks, prevents the slipping you're experiencing and protects them better. Also makes it safer and easier to move cards from deck to binder to another deck.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0007N7PB2

so this for the inner sleeves?

What exactly does that mean? I saw that and was confused. Did that mean use them over things like this?

So are they the same size as the original? Would this pack of card sleeves work well?:

https://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Perfect-Sleeves/dp/B0007N7PB2

Are you thinking something like this? As far as I know you only get them if you custom order a sleeve set first. Unless you mean KMC Perfect fits and any other brand of sleeves

for the full size cards? I use KMC perfect fit sleeves + Dragon Shield sleeves.


https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Barrier-Sleeves-Piece-Clear/dp/B0007N7PB2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1536991219&sr=8-4&keywords=kmc+perfect+fit

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https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Shield-Protective-Sleeves-100-Pack/dp/B000P0SY44/ref=sr_1_1?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1536991242&sr=1-1&keywords=dragon+shield+clear

binder I use:link
Sleeves I use: link link

I double sleeve my cards then put them in the binder. Ultra pro sleeves in my opinion are very cheaply made and poor quality.

I use Paladin's standard sleeves and also perfect barrier sleeves.

The perfect barrier sleeves are amazing value to price, and they're a lot easier to get than the paladin sleeves

Edit: also in case anyone is interested I use these coin sleeves in a trade binder for easy gear and settlement item management

They are these which I suppose are KMCs. What issue do you have?

https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Barrier-Sleeves-Piece-Clear/dp/B0007N7PB2

I use a KMC Perfect Fit to protect the inside as well as a Dragon Shield clear sleeve for the outer sleeve. It is a bit pricey to use this method but it offers the best protection with a water resistant seal that will not require the mane character to be pulled out every time it flips.

When I played in middle school I kept my decks wrapped in rubber bands and I'd carry them that way in my pocket, and keep them that way in a little cardboard box in under my bed. Luckily I never owned any good cards because the condition of those cards is awful now (but the first rare I ever pulled is still in the back of my binder).

Anyway this is what I use now, with the cards sleeved in these and these.

KMC - Perfect Fit

You need two different kinds of sleeves. One is commonly called the "perfect fit" sleeve. That goes upside-down over your card. Then you insert your card top-side up into the normal sleeve.

example of a perfect fit brand I use.

If you are worried about space or you want to overprotect your cards, like if you play daily, I would suggest putting on the KMC Perfect Fit sleeves and then putting your Dragon Shields on. It makes the cards a bit thicker, but they are well protected. When you do it you put the KMC sleeves on upside down. http://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Perfect-Sleeves/dp/B0007N7PB2

KMC Perfect Fit. Like the name, they're just the right size, and they're really high quality, too.

I actually double-sleeved them (put the card in one upside down and in the other right side up) with the matching KMC Hyper Mats (you might need to be careful to get the ones with the clear backs). It ends up being a little pricey but nothing compared to the cost of filling out the card set!

https://smile.amazon.com/Perfect-Barrier-Sleeves-Piece-Clear/dp/B0007N7PB2?sa-no-redirect=1

http://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Perfect-Sleeves/dp/B0007N7PB2