Reddit reviews PlayStation 4 Camera (Old Model)

Costs for the starting, complete virtual reality package that includes the headset, audio, 2 motion controllers, and the platform:

(Complete here means full headset tracking, motion controllers for hand tracking, and some sort of headphone solution for audio)

|Oculus Rift | HTC Vive | Playstation VR
---|---|---|---
Platform | $850 PC | $850 PC | $350 PS4
Headset | $600 | $800 | $400
Controllers | $??? | $0 | $60 ($30x2)
Tracking | $0 | $0 | $45
Audio | $0 | $0 | $0
Total | $1450+++ | $1650+ | $875+

* For HTC Vive and PSVR earbud alternatives, headphones have a lot of price variation. Depending on the brands you get, generally the more you pay for your audio, the better your virtual reality audio experience will be. My virtual reality headphone-type (open, closed, in-ear, etc.) breakdown can be found here. I also highly recommend looking at Head-Fi's price recommendation list for good ideas on headphones to consider purchasing.

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Quick, cheap PC with minimum Rift/Vive specifications that includes everything as if you're starting from absolutely nothing.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pjHGsY

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor | $189.99
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $56.99
Memory | Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $28.99
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.89
Video Card | XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card | $282.14
Case | Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case | $35.12
Power Supply | EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $49.99
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) | $89.92
Monitor | HP V193b 60Hz 18.5" Monitor | $69.99
Keyboard | Fellowes 9892901 Wired Standard Keyboard | $5.37
Mouse | V7 M30P20-7N Wired Optical Mouse | $4.71
| Total | $863.10

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You can cut costs further by removing keyboard, mouse, monitor, and perhaps finding a way to get a discount on the operating system. You can also change the case, or the storage for something cheaper. You may be able to lower the power supply, but I don't recommend it. If you remove the OS, monitor, keyboard, and mouse, you can cut about $160 off.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MjHGsY

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor | $189.99
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $56.99
Memory | Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $28.99
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.89
Video Card | XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card | $282.14
Case | Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case | $35.12
Power Supply | EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $49.99
| Total | $693.11

And adding your picture in stream with the Eye, according to the amazon page.

> Automatically integrate a picture-in-picture video of yourself during gameplay broadcasts, and challenge your friends during play.

The camera is $45 today from sony ship with prime http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1458077682&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4+camera

>1) Incredible improvements to their motion/family gaming platform, integrated with console.

Not sure about incredible, but they have been making substantial upgrades to their eye camera. (e3 demo)

>2) A 2013 worthy network service

PS+ has been on the up and up. Moving to a pay for play multiplayer experience is also setting the bar higher (if you're expecting people to pay, it better be on par with XBL).

>3) Tablet/Smartphone integration

It will have Vita intergration and has been reported to have tablet/phone intergration too ([old source, really need to find one of the E3 mentions](
http://www.androidpit.com/update-ps4-your-android-tablet-transformed-into-a-controller)

>4) Integration with other entertainment platforms like Television and Fantasy Football

Will have Netflix/Hulu/lovefilm/iplayer, but doubt you'll see anything super fancy (like cable box integration). I'd rather have a roku/Apple TV anyways, but I'm not a cable tv kind of guy.

Camera is only $60, same as a controller. So if anything, that bundle should be $520.

Source

It basically works out to the Kinect 2.0 costs $100. That's the reason its cheaper. The Playstation camera is not packaged with the console and costs $59.

Xbone with Kinect 2.0: $499
PS4 with Camera: $458

We already know that the PS4 Camera is sold separately.

The decision not to include it is how Sony was able to beat Microsoft's price by $100.

Move controllers (Individual) $33X2

[Camera] (https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera-Old-Model/dp/B00BGAA3S2/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1497990121&sr=1-4&keywords=ps4+camera) $42

Total = $108, you might be able to find deals somewhere if you look around.

No, it isn't.
The PS4 uses the Playstation Camera http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408626059&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4+camera

Not really right now. I did pick one up on amazon though because they are the cheapest I've ever seen them and I'm looking forward to the future (project morpheus, etc.)

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2/ref=zg_bs_videogames_8

Currently #8 in the video game best sellers

> now 15 dollar ps move[1] camera

It needs this one though.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2

FYI, it's $42.91 on Amazon. I personally wouldn't bother with a mail-in rebate to save $3.

Playstation Camera, two Move controllers, and games that support them. The last bit is where you'll run into issues, as really there aren't any. PSVR will use them, Dreams will use them, and LittleBigPlanet 3 has limited uses for them, but other than that I honestly can't think of anything.

EDIT: And in case you're wondering, you do NOT need this.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2

I just don't believe they would bundle it as being $100, and then sell it for $60. If anything, the bundle was actually $450, or if it was at $500 it included some game meant for the camera.

Amazon US regularly has the PS Camera for $40-$45 (currently ~$44) rather than the regular $59.99 retail price - I picked one up when it dropped to under $40 a few months ago.

>Don't forget the cost of the mandatory camera and the virtually mandatory PS move controllers

that being said, you can easily find the camera for $30 or less

and the move controllers are optional, not required.

The ps4 does have a camera.

I dare to disagree, you can get 2 PS Move controllers in the US for $25 each http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-Motion-Controller-Packaging-3/dp/B0072HYRNK/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1454083999&sr=8-5&keywords=ps+move

And a PS4 camera for $50 http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1454084034&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4+camera

Bringing the total to $100.

Now, hobbyist 9 DOF IMU sets are cheap http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MPU-9250-SPI-IIC-9-Axis-Attitude-Module-With-Gyro-Accelerator-Magnetometer/1916144202.html . The ones in the Touch might be higher quality, but I don't expect in bulk and integrated into a PCB they would be much more expensive. Of course, you have all the other pieces surrounding that chip that I already mentioned and the LEDs in Constellation are "smart", i.e. they have a blinking patterns, etc.

I understand the low-volume argument, etc., but my point is, anything beyond EUR 150 is really pushing it. Of course, to buy or not is everyone's decision, the point is, would that be good for VR overall.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera-Old-Model/dp/B00BGAA3S2/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1482845786&sr=1-2&keywords=playstation+camera

Camera not included and no controllers.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2/ $45

http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-Move-Motion-Controller-3/dp/B002I0J51U/ $28 x 2


So 450 minimum, 500 total.

I guess I have the old model http://amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera-Old-Model/dp/B00BGAA3S2

The PS Camera is supposed to be the successor of the PS Eye for PS4. Do you know if this new camera also good for computer vision? (in terms of community support/drivers)

Playstation has a camera that works with the playstation move system that is similar to kinect. It costs $60 and is optional.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2

$59.99*

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2/ref=sr_tr_sr_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370922302&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+camera

Close.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2

It isn't required.

Wow, it's freakin' $60:

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397240049&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4+eye

It must be a pretty high res camera or something, because the PS3 one is going for less than $15.

link

Also on amazon.ca.

1. Actually it's also referred to as the Move camera, but as of Amazon it is just "Playstation 4 Camera".
   
   
2. You don't have to yell at your TV, honestly are you just trolling now?
   
   Also a lot of these commands cannot be done by pressing the start button.
   
   
3. You're not understanding my point at all, Microsoft doesn't want it just to be a Kinect game they want Kinect to be integrated in a way where it can add to a game without making it awkward for the player.
   
   Don't compare the original Kinect to the new one as the original might as well be a toy in comparison.
   

So, I bought an Xbox One without Kinect during Target's Cartwheel one year anniversary thing where they had 15% off electronics... Figured I'd just get a Kinect for Fantasia, Dance Central, Kinect Sports, Crabitron, etc... down the line whenever they sell it separate figuring it would retail at exactly $99.99 and be subject to holiday sales, markdowns, etc.

The PlayStation Camera retails at $59.99 normally and usually sells for less because it's been on sale. (ex: http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2 for $49.99) And remember when that was crazy hard to find? Selling on eBay for $100+ and GameStop jacking up the MSRP to $69.99 because of demand. When PS4 really only had Just Dance 2014 and The Playroom. Kinect was never like that...

I know Kinect has more "advanced hardware" but still, they both serve the same overall purpose. The Kinect is way overpriced MSRP especially with the stigma Kinect has associated with it. I sorta get the mindset though... Ha! You bought the Xbone without Kinect so now pay an extra $50! But they'll probably come out with different bundles during its lifespan at lower prices with more included value. It'll probably be on sale during the holidays. I can see it dropping to like $89-99.99 on sale at some point. I'll buy it then.

Yes it does,

And many headsets sound fine. Judging by your statements about capture cards and this statement about headsets, I'd imagine that you're one of these "Master Race" PC gamer types. Please take a few minutes to realize that video game consoles are capable of more than you give them credit for.

>Costs for the starting, complete virtual reality package that includes the headset, audio, 2 motion controllers, and the platform:


>(Complete here means full headset tracking, motion controllers for hand tracking, and some sort of headphone solution for audio)


> |Oculus Rift | HTC Vive | Playstation VR
---|---|---|---

>Platform | $850 PC | $850 PC | $350

>PS4
Headset | $600 | $800 | $400

>Controllers | $??? | $0 | $60 ($30x2)

>Tracking | $0 | $0 | $45

>Audio | $0 | $0 | $0

>Total | $1450+++ | $1650+ | $875+

They're $25 on Amazon, and they're not required. And the camera is only $50 on Amazon and can be bought cheaper.

EDIT: Downvoted for a factual post? Here are the links.

Camera, currently $49.77 - http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2
Controller, currently &25.99 - http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-Motion-Controller-Packaging-3/dp/B0072HYRNK/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1459219194&sr=1-1&keywords=move+controller

sorry

Its a Playstation 4 Camera, not a PS Eye.

This is a PS Eye:
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Eye-3/dp/B000VTQ3LU

This is the Playstation 4 Camera:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGAA3S2

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2 (two synchronized camera modules, 1280x800@60 Hz each (or 2x640x480@120 Hz), 4 Microphones, USB 3, under 60$)

> I don't think that's the latest one from HTC. It looks different.

That's why I said "in its current form". But that's not the seven-segment display, LED indicator, USB port and sync cable that add the most to the cost.

> It is actually two USB 3.0 cameras

Do you have some information about that ? I've not seen any reference to a dual camera. If you mean the second camera for Oculus Touch, then you can also double the price for Lighthouse.

> with a massive FOV

The FOV is apparently already known (100°x70°), this shouldn't require an expensive lens.

> [massive] frame rate

A frame rate of 60 Hz is more than enough as Dov Katz said previously for the DK2 prototype. It's in the same ballpark than Lighthouse (50 or 60 Hz, can't remember) and it's only used to complement the IMU, just like with the Vive.

> [massive] resolution requirement

With subpixel resolution and LEDs redundancy a massive resolution is not required. With a 480p camera over a 80° FOV the DK2 prototype camera was already capable of sub-millimeter precision. With the added FOV a 720p camera should be enough.

Also the PlayStation camera has a dual 1280x800 camera, includes a four-channel microphone array and costs less than $50 off-the-shelf. So it probably costs much less to produce and the Rift camera is most probably even cheaper.