Reddit reviews Rosewill 4U Server Chassis/Server Case/Rackmount Case, Metal Rack Mount Computer Case Support with 15 Bays & 7 Fans Pre-Installed (RSV-L4500)
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Superb Scalability: Support up to 15 internal 3.5" HDDs and seven expansion slots, so users can expand your server system easily.Unmatched Cooling: 2 x 80mm rear fans, 3 x 120mm front fans and 3 x 120mm middle fans, total 8 cooling fans deliver exceptional thermal performance you can rely on.Front Door Security: The front door with key lock delivers confident protection against unauthorized access and theft, for great peace of mind.Excellent Dust Resistance: Front door foam filter is designed to minimize dust inflow to Industrial rack-mount server caseConvenient I/O Panel: Two USB 2.0 connectors in the front panel enable easy access to various peripherals.A Spacious Rack-Mount Chassis: It provides sufficient room to accommodate your powerful hardware, E-ATX / ATX motherboards and a total of 15 internal bays.Tremendous capacity : With huge space (7.00" x 25.00" x 16.80" including panel ), RSV-L4500 commits with spacious room to meet your demand for an outstanding systemRSV-L4500 can carry a total of 15x internal 3.5" HDDCooling design can carry up to front 120 mm cooling fan x3, middle 120 mm cooling fan x3, and rear 80 mm cooling fan x2, all cooling fans are included in RSV-L4500Front door foam filter design for minimize dust inflow
Yeah, that's not me. I just ordered a new 4u Rackmount server chassis for my FreeNAS. This was a xpost from /r/DataHoarder
This is what I ordered for my FreeNAS:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I posted about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/cjb8gt/so_much_for_the_small_form_factor/
Servers:
Networking:
FreeNAS Server Case:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Rack:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XZWJPHG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Rackmount Power:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00077INZU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Extras:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008X3JIVS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002D1GG0C/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0060RUVBA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001E1Y5O6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'm not an expert on backplanes by any means, but I don't think there are any standards for them across manufacturers. Each is made to fit a specific chassis.
If you want to avoid proprietary, you could get something like this. It will fit several different board form factors. I believe you can remove the front drive cages, which essentially leaves you with a load of 5.25" bays that you can load up with a couple of these, which are essentially self contained, four slot SATA backplanes that fit in 3 5.25" bays.
Again, I'm no expert, but I've seen some posts of similar setups as this and am considering doing this myself if I ever have the space for a rack.
I have one of these sitting around, it's not terrible, but it's not great. It's the cheapest white box rack mount case I could find that supported a decent number of drives (15).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/
$123 on Amazon Warehouse - https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-L4500/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Rosewill+RSV-L4500&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&qid=1564489643&s=warehouse-deals&sr=8-1
My scheming from when last we spoke appears to be paying off.
I've taken a single Supermicro X9SCL-F board and put it into a server that I'm currently using as a super-simplified SAN - CentOS on a small SSD with a ZFS mirrored vdev pool totaling 2TB for VM storage. I've tested the Dell 0KJYD8 cards that I had lying around with some SFP+ receivers that I bought on eBay in various configurations, and everything seems to work well. It looks like it's time for me to move on to Phase 2 of my plan :)
In preparation for Hurricane Florence (I live close to the east coast) I also went ahead and splurged on new batteries for all 4 of my UPSes - two Cyberpower 1500PFCLCD's and two APC Back-UPS Pro 1500's. I think, once I get the proper cable from Amazon to tell the APC's that they have new batteries and thus report an accurate remaining time to me, I will use those in my homelab, particularly because I can purchase battery expansions for these models to get even more runtime out of them. I'll likely use the Cyberpower UPSes for mine and my partner's desktop rigs. This was a relatively expensive purchase (compared to how much I've spent on the rest of my homelab), but it's definitely going to be worth it to be able to actually trust my UPSes in case of brownouts/blackouts going forward.
With all of that said, here's everything that's currently in my homelab:
Current Hardware
// todo (immediate)
// todo (future)
Rose will has a 4u 15 bay drive for under $150 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_T5IyCbJBT0PF1
Upgrade that ram, ryzen LOVES high speed. Get something like 2x8gb 3200: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0143UM4TC Only $20 more
For the case I would use this: https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-R4000/dp/B0091IZ1ZG and take off the rackmount ears.
Server before a recent upgrade
Server before a recent upgrade
My old system was rather simple and straight forward. It was a dual Xeon workstation motherboard (standard ATX) installed in a Rosewill 4U Server Chassis. The center rail perfectly fit the radiators of two Corsair H55s. The bracket works extremely well for the LGA1366.
Server after a hasty upgrade (not finished)
Center Rail
Back
Front
I upgraded my system about two weeks ago. Not finished yet - but it's functional. Since the new motherboard was an oversized EATX (13.2 x 13 inches) - I had to modify the case to get everything to fit. I noticed with 18 sticks of memory, the heat was a bit higher than the previous build. So, I have the radiators sandwiched with fans on both sides. This increased the airflow significantly and the fans are 120mm, so rather quiet.
However, with the fan sandwich, the center rail needed to be pushed back 1.5 inches. In the photo, I only pushed the rail back one inch so far. One of the sandwiches fit (the rear one), but you will notice that the one closest to camera isn't yet fitting. So, I need to pull everything out and drill new holes a half inch closer to the front.
The other thing I didn't realize is that when mounting standard ATX power supplies with an EATX motherboard, the chassis will need to have the power supply suspended above the motherboard and not on the side. You will see that the motherboard takes up a portion of the area where the power supply should go. So, I cut a hole above the i/o plate and moved the power supply mounting bracket that came with the case. Surprisingly, it holds extremely well and has nearly 1 inch of clearance between the power supply and one of the CPU water blocks and memory.
I also plan on 3d printing a shroud that will channel the air from the center rail out into the giant hole in the back and adding two 90mm fans as a proper exhaust.
Case selection would depend on what you're doing. If you're planning on having one or two disks, check out the rosewill cases.
My use case is a massive storage array, along with running vms for other stuff so I went with the Rosewill RSV-L4500 15 bay case. If you're looking for a large number of drives, I do NOT recommend this case. You have to pull the thing completely out of your rack, take the lid off, then take the entire drive caddy out the front to access any of the disks. Changing out a disk is VERY difficult on this case. Rosewill does have other simpler cases with fewer storage bays you might check out.
If you plan to have a large storage array with a ton of disks, go with something like the SuperMicro 24 bay 846e16-r1200b which has hot swappable drives right out the front. It's more money, but it's worth it. Also comes with redundant power.
For the Rosewill cases, you'll have to supply your own PSU. I went with the EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G1+ which has the 1x24pin ATX connector and 2x8pin+12v connectors these server class boards require.
Prebuilt NAS from the likes of Synology is a huge waste of money. The ones that can transcode 1080p media properly cost upwards of $600, and that's without the storage.
For well under $600 (again excluding storage) you can build a kick-ass dual socket Xeon based server that will transcode one 4k stream without breaking a sweat, 2 would be a stretch, but maybe.
You won't even need a GPU. Just make sure your monitor has VGA input for setting up the server, and after the initial setup it can run headless. The passmark score on the 2 CPUs is over 20k which is plenty.
For more information check out https://serverbuilds.net site and Discord channel. Based on their guides I built a very capable server for under $400, and it does extremely well transcoding multiple 1080p streams simultaneously. Besides Plex Media Server it also runs all my automation like NZBget, Sonarr, Radarr, Bazarr, Tautulli, MCEBuddy (for converting 4k to 1080p,) Commskip (for removing commercials from recorded OTA programs,) and is my backup target for 4 Duplicati sources. The CPU load never goes above 50%, so I may throw all my home automation on there as well.
EDIT: I just noticed your requirement for Seagate Ironwolf drives. Not sure how you're going to pull that off when the cost of your drives is nearly equal to your entire budget. Are you dead set on those drives?
Check out a used Supermicro 4U as a starting point. If you're looking primarily at storage, I'd add 32GB of RAM to the base build and stick with the dual 6-core Xeons. Figure $700 shipped for the server, then you'll need drives.
That case will give you 24 bays which is plenty if you choose 10TB drives. 10x10TB will give you 100TB of raw storage and in raidz2, 67TB of usable space. Or 9 with a hot spare will be 60TB. Right now you can get a 10TB WD external and shuck it for $160+tax, so about $172 each = $1,720. That's a total of $2,420, which leaves some room for either a couple more drives or some other hardware.
If you want to go even cheaper, you could build up a whitebox starting with a Rosewill 4U case with 15 internal bays. Here's a breakdown:
Even cheaper is to get a used Dell R510, which only has 8 bays so you'd need to go with 12TB drives. But if you can find a good deal on an R510, it could be under $200 shipped and that leaves plenty of budget for the larger drives.
Not at all a problem! I use the Norco 4224 currently, and I love it. Previously I used the RSV-L4500 and I honestly hated that case (it's absolute hell to add a new drive to it). I just use my old motherboard and i7 4770K I retired from my gaming rig in my server, with a handful of SAS cards plugged into the HDD backplane for connectivity to them, and it works like a perfect angel. When I finally fill up all 24 bays, I'll probably buy a second one, or at least another 4U 24 hotswap bay case, and use some cards like the one I linked earlier. That way I'll only have one server that just happens to have 48 hotswap bays over two 4U cases, if that makes sense.
I’ve been very happy with this case: Rosewill 4U Server Chassis/Server Case/Rackmount Case, Metal Rack Mount Computer Case support with 15 bays & 7 Fans Pre-Installed (RSV-L4500) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_g9S.Bb2HETDCB
Very quiet, looks good, well built, and ticks all your check boxes. Each “fan bay” can support 5 x 3.5” drives or it can be removed to fit 3 x 5.25 devices. I’ve currently filled it with 3 x 2.5” x 6 ICY DOCKs, giving me space for 18 x 2.5” drives in addition to 10 x 3.5” drives.
I ordered this one and am pretty happy with it.
Rosewill 4U Server Chassis / Server Case / Rackmount Case, Metal Rack Mount Computer Case support with 15 bays & 7 Fans Pre-Installed (RSV-L4500) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_x5PrzbJ9MRYFP
Are you looking to build one from complete scratch, or are you looking to buy one that already has some of what you need(hdd trays, caddys, etc)?
for my last NAS build, I ended up getting myself a 4U chassis. A good one that I can recommend is the RSV-L4500 You can also pick something like the RSV-L4000 for something with a horizontal bay if you like. Or If you know that you want it full of Drives and are comfortable stopping at 12 hot swap bays, Rosewills RSV-L4412 would be ideal from the get go, as you wont need to replace the bays that it comes with at any point.
I ended up purchasing 3 3x5.25 to 5x3.5 bay hdd caddys for a total of 15 drives. Looks exactly like THIS
After you get the case, you can put the parts that you like in it. Just read what size motherboard fits, get an appropriate power supply for the number of drives you'll be using, get an HBA that does JBOD and can can connect to the number of drives you'll be getting, and you're good to go.
Specifically for freenas, you can put the OS on a USB and run it from there, however because Small USB tend to be hit or miss, i recommend a SATA DOM or two, plugged directly into the motherboard instead of via the HBA. Two if you want to mirror the OS. Remember, do not use any form of hardware raid when using freenas.
Edit: words.
Before I switched to a Rosewill RSV4500 I was using an Azza Solano 1000R full tower case. It had a ton of 5.25" bays and I used some cheap Cooler Master 4 in 3 bays to stuff it full of drives. It worked fairly well and I didn't need to modify the case at all. This was handy because I reused it down the line after migrating Unraid to the Rosewill.
The Rosewill case was the cheapest rackmount case ($80) I could get that fit my drives. I have considered upgrading to a hotswap-type of case like the Norcos but so far it has been more economical to just upgrade my drives to larger capacity rather than expand my capacity to hold drives. I swap drives so rarely that the hotswap feature isn't necessary. The Rosewill is annoying to work with when I have to swap a drive though (and I've removed the center partition).
How hard do you think it would be to move the t7500 parts into this case? ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1517489109&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=rosewill+rackmount+case&dpPl=1&dpID=41Hs6LEhJ5L&ref=plSrch )
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Initially, I started with this case ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q2Z11QE ) as I was thinking of throwing something together like what you're talking about. Then my "project" began to grow.
That's when I ended up ordering this case instead ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KQ66ZC ). That said, my server consists of a Threadripper 2990WX with an AIO water cooler. Well...this case wasn't made for that. So my father in law machined a hole in the top to mount the radiator on the top of the case like a blower on a car. This worked VERY well for a couple of weeks, but I just wasn't happy with it.
Finally, I ordered this case ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG ), to which I was able to fit everything inside of with a few extra bolts that still need to be trimmed. Here's a pic of the inside of mine and the temp 32 cores runs at ( https://imgur.com/tek9ID0 - https://imgur.com/vEPFLv5 ), do excuse the dust.
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As far as SSD's go, just do something like this ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GMGZBP0 ). Saves space and doesn't hurt them as they only take a single HDD slot. Taping them to the side of the case doesn't hurt either if you don't care about the looks. Also, I want to boast about these fans for a min ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRF1A ). Move a lot of air and aren't as loud as you'd think. The 120mm variant is a good bit louder, but still well worth it.
Uuhhmmm... this?
Eeek... so that budget is going to be eaten up by just drives. NAS can use consumer drives... but it is far and away better to use drives designed to be in RAID. Otherwise you might spend more as multiple consumer drives die over time.
12-bay hot-swap 4u case: https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-R4000/dp/B00N9CXGSO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1504592127&sr=8-2&keywords=rosewill%2B4u%2Bcase&th=1
15-bay non-hot-swap 4u case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=psdc_572238_t1_B00BQY3916
You could look for craigslist deals for NAS - but they usually use SFF (2.5" 10-16k rpm) SAS drives. Also can be loud.
>The only reason to put a home server in a rack is because you want to, because it's cool.
I respectfully disagree. It's a quick and easy way to add 15 internal drive bays, which is a lot harder to find in a traditional desktop PC case. There's absolutely a function for both setups, beyond just someone's personal choice because they might find it "cool". But at this point I don't think either of us is going to convince the other!
SSD: I used both 500GB and 1TB doing lots of hoarding and file transfer and found that 500GB to be the sweet spot. Unless you do gaming VMs and stuff, the main purpose of the cache drive would be to assist saturating a gigabit connection (unraids array is SLOW), so going above 125MB/s has no point at all. Can probably go for a cheap 2.5' tbh. Or shift the money towards higher capacity 2.5' like those 2TB micron
Case: if it sits in the basement why would u need an expensive eye candy. Might be better off with that those cheaper rosewill 4U chassis
> Just need space for hard drives.
The Rosewill RSV-L4500 has 15 3.5" drive bays and can usually be found on sale < $100US. That should be a good start for your digital collection. :-)
It's for a server, so it's not a standard case.
https://www.amazon.ca/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-L4500/dp/B0091IZ1ZG
Can be used on it's side if you take the front panel off, or you can rack mount/put it on a side table.
Depends on the size, but you can shoehorm a 1 slot GPU in some 1U rack chassis , and there are 4U rack chassis, tons of space to put some 3 GPU's in there, even cheap ones at that:
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-L4000/dp/B0091IZ1ZG?th=1
Yeah, I got the 4 drive one as well and loaded it up with 10TB drives.
I suspect that by the time I need more storage, I will need to break down and invest in a server chassis like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG
Room for 15 drives in there.
My ultimate plan would be to get a server chassis like the one above, max out the hard drives, put in a couple SSDs for caching. Run UnRAID as the OS and Plex on top of that. I would probably drop in a Quadro card for hardware transcoding and a 10Gbe Ethernet card.
That project is at least a year away though.
This is what I am currently using.
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Server-Chassis-Rackmount-Metal/dp/B0091IZ1ZG
I use the router to block outside connections to the NAS to keep it more secure.
At 56TB (from your badge), it should be cheaper to build your own NAS especially if you need it on 24/7. WD MyClouds are cheap, but they will power down after some time and they aren't the fastest drives in the world.
As an example, here is a case https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Server-Chassis-Rackmount-Metal/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473199853&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=server+case
that is only $110 and can hold 15 drives.
And then a motherboard like this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-P9d-c-4l-Server-Motherboard-Intel-C224-Chipset-Socket-H3-Lga-1150-Atx/331913735405
for $230, brings the costs up to about $350
Best thing to do is to buy a new case. Either this https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Mini-Itx-Computer-DS380B-USA/dp/B07PCH47Z2/ref=sr_1_15?keywords=silverstone+hotswap&qid=1566943919&s=gateway&sr=8-15 Which a quite a lot of folks I know who are using mini iTX are using something like this. 8 hotswap 3.5 and 4 x 2.5 https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=452 or if you want to use ALL your drives and a cheaper alternative https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=twister_B079C7QGNY?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 You can fit 15 x 3.5 in that. or get some 2x2.5 to 1x3.5 to shove some SSDs in there too. https://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Internal-Mounting-Included-ST1002S/dp/B01FD8YJB4/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=2.5+x+3.5&qid=1566944571&s=electronics&sr=1-11 There are various companies I looked quickly on Amazon. That way you can have 12 drives rather than just 6. The cheap sata cards will fix you up or shove this in there https://www.amazon.com/Crest-Non-RAID-Controller-Supports-FreeNAS/dp/B07NFRXQHC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=I%2FO+Crest+8+Port+SATA+III+Non-RAID+PCI-e+x4+Controller+Card+Supports+FreeNAS+and+ZFS+RAID&qid=1566944762&s=electronics&sr=1-1 . Hope this helps :)
Take a look at this...
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http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Server-Chassis-Rackmount-Metal/dp/B0091IZ1ZG?ie=UTF8&amp;keywords=15-bay%20Chassis&amp;qid=1465421231&amp;ref_=sr_1_1&amp;sr=8-1
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Could put your i7 920 equipment in that along with a few used raid pcie cards and you should be well on your way.
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I went with BTRFS instead of ZFS because I wanted the flexibility to add drives to my raid as my data grew but I get that not everyone cares about that.
here you go! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A cheap suggestion to lower the sound is by switching to Noctua fans. They are well known for being very quiet. I picked these fans up and they are considerably quieter than what I got with my case.
For some BIOS, you can setup the fan speed based on the the temperatures. I did that as well.
Fans:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KF7MVI2
Case:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG
Sure thing!
The Projector is the Optoma HD25-LV... For what it's worth, I didn't pay that price for mine. Not sure why that's $1800 now. I think I paid less than $700 brand new.
Screen - Elite Screens Spectrum 125-inch motorized
Speakers - Blue Octave... I had never heard of this brand. But I had a set of older sony speakers in there before and they were sounding tinny. So, I gave these a shot. I think I got them for around $100 for the set of 8, and they have been absolutely amazing. They sound great.
Subs - I don't have links to them. But they are both Sony subs. The one I got with a 5.1 set of speakers I bought a few years ago, and the other one is the exact same thing, I picked up at an estate sale for like $12. They're behind my seats.
Receiver - Sony STRDN-850 (current)... However, this arrived today. I bought this for 2 reasons. 1) We just had a pretty big storm roll through our area over the last couple of days. There was no lightning or thunder, but the power did surge a few times while I was trying to work from home in my theater, and at one point, the receiver shut down and wouldn't come back on. Then, after a while when it did, it wouldn't output video or audio. Audio has since randomly returned, but still not outputting video. 2) We recently spent a good bit of coin on our back yard, and have a nice area to entertain, which we plan to do more often. The new receiver will allow for multiple zones, and I'm planning on putting an outdoor theater out on our new patio
Gaming PC - Ryzen 5 1600x CPU, Asus Strix B350-f motherboard,Asus Strix GTX 1070, 16gb RAM built into a Rosewill 4u server chassis. I replaced the front intake fans with these to add some character. Single 250gb NVME SSD for OS, and single 525gb SATA SSD for game storage. 20tb of drives in a Windows Spanned Volume acting as a backup for the media server.
Media Server - Dell R710 with dual xeon E-5630 CPUs, 36gb RAM. Two 128gb SSDs in RAID 1 config for OS, then 6 (soon to be 8) 5TB Seagate drives in RAID 6 for data. 20tb of potential media storage.
The rack - I actually got this for free. I work in IT and a company I was consulting for had their entire IT staff just walk out one day, which is why I was there. Apparently, they had stockpiled the previous 5 years worth of the company's hardware refreshes in this storage room. One of the things we had to oversee was a massive e-cycling job to get rid of all those old PCs and things. They were going to pay this other company we subcontracted by the pound to haul it all away, so I talked to the boss and we both agreed that anything I took was going to ultimately save them money. So, I got like 8 SSDs, about 6 i7 CPUs, some RAM, 5 monitors, and then I took that roll-around rack, and two of my teammates took these brand new Dell 4-post racks.. I didn't have room for those giant things, so I let them take those. This has been great. The only drawback is the door is warped and won't close. So, it's currently taking up space in my basement.
As for what I like... It's hard for me to pick. The projector has an amazing picture once you get it dialed in. It has several options to adjust the image, whether it be keystoning, or image shifting of some kind. So, it's not hard to get it lined up. My only complaint is that it tends to move. This room is one of our basement rooms and is right underneath our kitchen and family room on the main floor. The projector is mounted right onto the joist in that floor/theater room cieling, so when people walk through the kitchen, it tends to bounce. I find myself having to readjust it about 2-3 times per month. An annoyance at most, and not at all a negative of the projector. What I love about the projector is what a stark difference it has made. Version 0.1 of this home theater, was a white sheet hung up with thumbtacks and about a 10-year old 720p projector I won at a company auction back in 2007-2008. So, that one was on it's last legs anyway. I'm pretty sure the bulb was dying. Add that to the brand new bright bulb in the Optoma, combined with the increase in resolution... Massive improvement.
I don't have a link to the chairs, we bought them from a dealer here in town. But if I HAD to pick a favorite item in that room, it's going to be the chairs. I spent a LOT more on them than I intended to furnish that room, and they're so big, I had to take the door to the room off and cut 2 studs out of the wall to get them in there (it was a narrow door). But, they have electric reclining, which is a pretty cool feature, and they lay waaaaaay back, almost completely horizontal. The headrests are also motorized to INCLINE. So when you ARE completely reclined, you don't have to manually hold your head up to see the screen... They're soft, and warm... They'll be in my house for a long time regardless if I have a home theater or not.
The subs add an element of immersion. I've had surround sound systems for years, but never have I had the space, time, money, and patience to 'architect' it from top to bottom like this before. So, the first time I felt the bass kick really good during a movie or game, I was pretty much hooked. Speaking of immersion, I added the dynamic backlighting behind the screen last summer. It's 2 Phillips' Hue LED strips. One running the length behind the top of the screen, the other behind the bottom. I use this free software called ScreenBloom to control the color of the backlight in real time. Since everything I do is via the gaming PC anyway, I just have it run there. The creator says it will work on all movies (which it does) and most games (though I haven't found a game it didn't work on yet). It basically takes a snapshot of your screen every X miliseconds and then generalizes the color and sets the hue to the closest matching color in it's range. You can set the refresh rate for it to fit your preference, and you can also set zones. So, if you have multiple Hue lights, you can assign that light to a specific section of the screen. It's a really cool piece of software. This adds a whole new level of immersion believe it or not.
While I love my lapdesk setup, it is not anywhere NEAR where I want it to be yet. I have searched high and low for a decent 'living room' lapdesk setup for gaming and while there ARE more and more options coming, the demand just isn't high enough for companies to dedicate resources to developing for it. So, over the last 18 months, I've bought and returned about 8 or 9 different lapdesks, and finally settled on this one from iSkelter. My criteria was, it had to have room for a keyboard, mouse, and a gamepad (all seen in the pics), and it had to fit across the arms of the chair. This lapdesk by itself was sufficient, but my gripe with it was having to completely get up out of the chair to put it down when I was watching a movie, and one of the dogs wanted to get up in my lap. I wanted something to swivel into place and out of the way depending on whether or not I needed it, and I didn't want to have to get up to put it 'away'. So, after some real hard thinking and strategic google-fu for pretty much a solid month, I stumbled across this company. They make electronic attachment brackets for police and military vehicles. I looked over their components catalog and liked what I saw. So, I emailed their sales and explained what I was trying to do. Within minutes, they responded, and asked for measurements of my chair, lapdesk, etc; then within 24 hours they got back to me with a parts list. The whole mount cost about $200. But, it has worked brilliantly. Like I said, this solution isn't QUITE done yet. The mount screws into the wood lapdesk right in the center, and it's wobbly. It will suffice for now, but I'm going to keep poking at that until I get it right.
I know I didn't quite answer what I liked or what my favorite part is. But, as I said earlier, it's hard for me to pic a favorite. The whole thing has been challenging to solve a host of problems one by one, but now that it's where it is, it's all so satisfying.
Feel free to ask if y'all have anymore questions.
My current setup is fifteen 4 TB drives in a Rosewill RSV-L4500 chassis.
I use unRAID for the OS so I dedicate two of the 4 TB drives to parity, and the rest to data (13*4TB = 52 TB of usable space), and have a 500 GB SSD velcroed to an open spot in the case for thumbnails and caching. It runs headless and mostly just handles Plex and backups for my other computers.
My rule of thumb is that if I have 3 or more external drives, it's time to consider moving everything in to a single chassis - either a dedicated multi drive NAS, DAS, Thunderbolt or USB enclosure, or a dedicated server like this one.
Ah, running a 1/2U? I put my setup in a Rosewill RSV-L4500 (file server, so I needed the bays), and it's barely audible above ambient noise. 4U means it fits 120mm desktop CPU coolers. :)
Case is huuuuge though, if space is an issue haha.
It would be better, if your PSU has the pins, not to daisy-chain the entire string, to avoid having too large a voltage drop on the 12V supply during initial spin up. Peak current for 8 drives reaches about 200W, or about 16A @ 12V. See for example, these power graphs for the 12V supply for 15 drives: https://www.45drives.com/wiki/index.php?title=Start_up_Power_Draw
Now the spin-up time is relatively short, but if that power were used continuously, the wires should be about 14AWG. See for example, https://www.stayonline.com/product-resources/reference-circuit-ampacity.asp
The voltage drop over 3ft of 14AWG wire at 16A is about 1/4 V. See for example, https://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html?material=copper&wiresize=8.286&voltage=12&phase=dc&noofconductor=1&distance=3&distanceunit=feet&amperes=16&x=91&y=15
...and if, reasoning that the spin-up time is too short to burn out the power supply wires, you push the wire gauge down to 18AWG, the voltage drop rises to about 0.6V, which is 5% down from nominal.
https://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html?material=copper&wiresize=20.95&voltage=12&phase=dc&noofconductor=1&distance=3&distanceunit=feet&amperes=16&x=88&y=23
...if you used this 22AWG wire: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19804/wir-91/22AWG_Corsair_Style_5-Conductor_Flat_Ribbon_Cable_Wire_22AWG_Black.html?tl=g51c327s2090
...you'd get a whopping 1.5V voltage drop:
https://www.calculator.net/voltage-drop-calculator.html?material=copper&wiresize=52.96&voltage=12&phase=dc&noofconductor=1&distance=3&distanceunit=feet&amperes=16&x=43&y=21
Now, to be 100%, I don't know at what threshold your disk drive WILL fail to spin up, or at what point your wire WILL heat up too much, but it seems that if you don't pay attention, you COULD push this design into failure.
Personally, I've successfully built systems with 15 drives (NOT staggered spin up) using a single PSU cable that had 3 SATA power connectors and 3 5-1 SATA power expanders built by modifying these 4-1 SATA power cables: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ENKYJB4 -- all for this 15-drive server case: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG -- and these systems have worked over several years.
Primary Components are...
Rosewill RSV-L4500 Case: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG/
GPU Bracket Coversion Kit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1731197.0
F12 Silent Arctic (~800RPM) 120mm Fans: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0119T0D4I/
6-Pack v009S Risers: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B077JYBDYT/
6pin Extension Cables: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B073M4643C/
Corsair 1200 Watt Platinum PSU: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U6GTONM/
GIGABYTE GA-H110-D3A Mainboard: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B073ZMZV6K
4 PNY GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GPUs: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01IR5MR32
I just built this for something to keep me out of trouble, didn't really expect to make any money, maybe free heat in the winter. So far I'm pleasantly surprised it's making ~$40 weekly (at rates as of today, lol) after deducting power costs. No sure how long it will last at that rate, but I'm having fun. Got one more 8pin (to dual 6pin) corsair type 3 cable arriving next week, then will be able to throw another card in there (PSU has six 8pin ports). Making about 100+ RVN daily right now, probably gonna look for newer coins once in awhile and just HODL them all and see what happens...that's my stragegy so far.
I was very surprised how well the 3 front fans do only being 800 to 1000 RPM, then again I don't have monster GPUs in this rig, just 6pin 1060s. Heat did NOT increase after closing the top, BUT I had to remove the front door because it cut down airflow too much and things heated up very quickly. Mining X16 seems to keep heat / power usage down I guess? Haven't mined much else yet, I suspect ethash might be a different story.
EDIT: The four 1060 GPUs are only pulling 330 watts at the wall...pretty sweet. I haven't mined in years, I was predicting a lot higher.
Do you think this would work? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG
If so, how big of a power supply do you think I'd need?
One option is to move your existing hardware into on of these cases. It takes standard atx motherboards and gives 13 hot swap hard drive bays.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N9CXGSO
Or this one is cheaper and provides room for 15 hard drives but they aren’t hot swap.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG
For the case, I use a Rosewill 4U server chassis. 15 bays, 6 fans, 7 x 16.8 x 25 inches. Not very well versed with the hardware side of things, but maybe my setup will help?
PCPartPicker Part List
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i3-4330 3.5 GHz Dual-Core Processor | Purchased For $120.00
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | Purchased For $36.99
Thermal Compound | StarTech - Metal Oxide 1.5 g Thermal Paste | Purchased For $3.99
Motherboard | Supermicro - X10SL7-F Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | Purchased For $237.00
Memory | Crucial - 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1866 Memory | Purchased For $120.43
Storage | Western Digital - Red 3 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | Purchased For $0.00
Storage | Western Digital - Red 3 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | Purchased For $0.00
Storage | Western Digital - Red 3 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | Purchased For $80.95
Storage | Western Digital - Red 3 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | Purchased For $87.98
Storage | Western Digital - Red 3 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | Purchased For $88.75
Storage | Western Digital - Red 3 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | Purchased For $88.75
Storage | Western Digital - Red 3 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | Purchased For $88.75
Power Supply | Solid Gear - 750 W Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | Purchased For $49.99
Other | Rosewill Server Chassis/Server Case/Rackmount Case, 4U Metal Rack Mount Server Chassis with 15 bays | Purchased For $112.08
Other| Microcenter 3.0 USB Drive, 32gb| Purchased For $8.99
Other| FreeNAS| Purchased For $0.00
Other| Compressed Air| Purchased For $1.99
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1126.64
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-29 10:12 EDT-0400 |
I have two of these that hold 15 drives each.
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-L4500/dp/B0091IZ1ZG
You can run Plex on almost anything. I prefer to avoid pre-builts since they limit upgrading potential. Especially with the Lenovo or Compaq ones you mentioned. Sometimes they use propriatary equipment so you're stuck with what you got and if you want better then you have to start over again.
Just keep browsing this forum for good deals and slowly build your server. For a NAS, I would recommend a case with lots of bays. I'm still waiting for this one to go on sale. https://www.amazon.ca/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-L4500/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=rsv-l4500&amp;qid=1574260425&amp;sr=8-1
Also check out this link for more info on NAS Killer builds: https://forums.serverbuilds.net/t/nas-killer-4-0-build-guide-fast-quiet-power-efficient-and-flexible-starting-at-125/667/11
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I'd get this case (symmetrical 5.25 bays): https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-L4000/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/
Get these IcyDock bays: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994155
So that's 15 3.5" HDDs.
Go mATX and you can use at least two of the PCI slots for HDDs as well, like this: https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Mounting-Internal-Included-Installation/dp/B00IB6I43K
The rest is fairly easy too (mobo, psu, ram, cpu, Noctua fans & heatsink, HBA).
What about a wider cube chassis such as: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TQI9BY8/ or http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F3ZN55E (which I am now going to purchase because that looks cool as hell)
Those two products above do support E-ATX and 4 GPUs by the way.
Or you could consider a small server rack and a server chassis:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NO0KFE/
Then you mount your surge protector and a network switch in the same rack.
The largest case I have is an NZXT S810 and it doesn't feel spacious enough even though it's considered an Ultra Tower.
This only has 15 proper bays but you can could probably shoehorn a few extra in there if you're creative. It is technically a rack mount chassis but it can be put on it's side if you felt so inclined. https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-L4500/dp/B0091IZ1ZG
https://www.amazon.com/Alphacool-Eisbaer-Extension-Straight-Connectors/dp/B01MFC1QWP/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=Alphacool+Eisbaer+GPX+Extension&amp;qid=1550988762&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1-fkmrnull
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
RSV-L4500
I recently went through somethings similar... lots of separate external drives and looking for a solution to bring it all together. The main two things I think you'll need to consider are performance and noise. At first I bought a Dell R720XD server which can fit 12 3.5" drives in it, and I was going to mount it in a closet using this wall mount bracket. What I ended up finding out though is that that server is loud and way too loud for my house. I returned it and instead decided to build one myself with the help from the great community at /r/JDM_WAAAT who also host the serverbuilds.net site. I built a server with a Rosewill L4500 case which can hold 15 or so drives but there are other options too. This gives me room to expand and I was able to make it super quiet, which was a much bigger factor than I realized originally.
The next thing you're going to want to figure out is the operating system to run on the server. Your setup would be considered JBOD (Just a Bunch Of Drives). I would recommend using drivepool (if on Windows) or mergerfs (if on linux). Add snapraid for your backup solution... I've been following the guide here. I went from knowing nothing about linux to actually preferring it, so I'm using mergerfs + snapraid at the moment.
Regarding your drives... the ones that are less than 1TB are probably not worth keeping. I have an old Seagate 500GB and I don't know what to do with it. It's slow, old, and I never use it.
Speaking of performance... so what I did was I built my server and I'm filling it with 8TB and 10TB drives. The external drives I was using were 5TB and not rated to really be used in a NAS type of setting. I had at least 10 of those drives, and now that I've transferred all of my data to this pretty powerful server, I've been trying to come up with a solution for all of those older externals which will basically become my backup server. I ended up buying an Orange Pi 3 (Single Board Computer) and I'll be using a USB strip like what you have underneath your desk, and I'm 3D printing the box for it at work. I'm not sure how much power this will have but I'm basically replicating my current server setup using low power, low heat components in a much smaller package. I'm just about to start this project and it's gonna be interesting!
What is a relatively cheap case (for DAS) that isn't as deep as the Rosewill 4U server chassis in JDM's DAS build? I have found Copystar's 9 bay so far. My cabinet is only 19" deep.
I ended up going to a nas a few years ago myself after I ran out of room my my main machine for drives, I went with http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Server-Chassis-Rackmount-Metal/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=cm_wl_huc_item this case and unraid from https://lime-technology.com
But I love it I have a i5-4440 CPU in it. It also has the ability to run apps on top of the nas os, I use it to run sickrage, mineos, plexmedia server,a teamspeak 3 server, and pi hole for dns add blocking. Also even with all that running this is my usage for it http://i.imgur.com/5oOZFmD.png
So far I have 7 drives for a total of 11TB of data with the ability to add in 5 more drives.
It does look pretty sweet except that "Price: $224.32AU + $268.58AU Delivery ($492.90AUD, or $350USD)", "Shipped from and sold by Amazon US". https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/
If the shipping wasn't so expensive, yeah. I don't mind paying for a product, but paying to have the privilege of buying it is kinda annoying. Rosewill has always been difficult to get here. Based on this review, heaven forbid I have to send it back...
> CyberSkulls
> 4.0 out of 5 stars
> Great value, but quality is hit or miss
> 3 March 2018 - Published on Amazon.com
> Capacity: 4U, 15 Bays & 7 Fans Verified Purchase
> I've probably bought 25 of these chassis over the years. The quality is extremely hit or miss or for lack of a better term, sub par. Then why 4 stars? For a $100 chassis, it's still an extremely great value. You just have to know upfront they typically don't check these for quality before they leave the factory. So if a chassis has issues, it will make it all the way to your door, it will never be caught at the factory.
> Example is I received six more of these a week or so ago. Out of those six, one had a lock that just wouldn't work no matter how hard you turned the key. One was missing all the motherboard standoffs. One had wires pinched below the drive cages so it literally had exposed wires in it for the front panel connections. One had too many left hand drive slides (the blue ones that slide into the cages) and not enough right side ones. And finally one of them had the motherboard standoffs over drilled where the standoff goes in basically at an angle and wouldn't line up with the screw. So what I did is take one chassis, tear it down for the spare components, fixed each of the above issues on the other chassis and basically created a chassis full of issues to exchange with Amazon. It was better than returning five chassis to Amazon and possibly playing this same game again.
This is the case I recently bought 3 of to move my PCs to rack mounted cases.
They don't come with any rails however the internal grate which has 3 fans on it can be fairly easily modded to mount my h100i I had in two of the PCs.
Definitely fits atx mobo,psu and full length video card.
http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Server-Chassis-Rackmount-Metal/dp/B0091IZ1ZG?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01
Something from Rosewill?
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Server-Chassis-Rackmount-Metal/dp/B0091IZ1ZG
Why not shuck the hdd's? Less shit laying around and less points if failure. Knew someone who has it simular setup and the hdds would crash and had to be restarted every once in a while.
I'm using this, I prefer this
The handles on the server chassis may get in the way. If it slides in, guess that be good enough. just won't be flush due to the screws holding the shelving in. I could look into swapping out the handles on the server chassis from 4u to like 1u or something, then it can become flush. This need 1u of free space on the bottoms of where the handles goes. I have come up with a list of parts.
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Rosewill 4U Server Chassis / Server Case / Rackmount Case, Metal Rack Mount Computer Case support with 15 bays & 7 Fans Pre-Installed (RSV-L4500)
Requires modifying from HDD setup to GPU Setup to save money.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
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NavePoint Adjustable Rack Mount Server Shelf Shelves Rail Rails 1U (33.25" max depth)
https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1518819818&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=1u+shelving
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Tripp Lite 25U 4-Post Open Frame Rack, Network Equipment Rack, 1000 lb. Capacity (SR4POST25) 22" to 36" depth
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OB8T72/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER