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u/Votearrows · 6 pointsr/weightroom

I'm seeing a pattern here. You're trying to dodge the fact that you can't back up your ideas by attacking me. It's not working. In fact, it's the lowest rung on this old chart

All I asked was for you to back up your blanket assertion with a bit of evidence or at least logic. Instead you just exploded, which tells me that you don't have any. But I'll even skip the sarcasm and get to your points:

> Where is your vast wealth of evidence?

You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you.

However, there's a bunch of basic reading in our FAQ that back up myself and the others talking to you here. Greyskull LP is a popular beginner's program that has you curl twice a week and do chins in between those sessions. Many people here have seen good results from this program. Never heard of anyone overtraining.

There's also quite a few popular articles you can Google for, often titled something like "The Myth of Overtraining. The quality varies with the author, of course, but some of them are really good.

For fairly advanced stuff, people around here usually tell you to start off with this book.

>Tell me aside from the gym when was the last time you lifted something with your biceps, something heavy how often do you do that?

But we are talking about the gym. I never claimed I did isolation movements in "real-world" work. Why would I? What does that have to do with anything?

This was about someone training for the powerlifting strict curl in competition, anyway. They ARE training to lift heavy things with mostly just the elbow flexors (of which the biceps are only one). It may not be the best "real life" movement, but OP wants to train it for a comp, so it's valid enough.


>Have you ever even trained for strength? Because it doesn't sound like you know what is involved.

The irony of this statement is pretty heavy. As to your query: Yes I have. But this isn't about me. Again, you made the claim. You have to back it up if you want it to stand up to scrutiny.


>So you want a guy who like most people, does not use his biceps on a daily basis, and has little work capacity, to train for strength (block periodization, temporary over reaching, and heavy weight.) To train that way multiple times a week.

I don't want anything in particular of them, and I never said I did. I just wanted you to back up your assertion. The example idea that I gave for this debate was even a light beginner's linear program, starting with a light weight and moving up slowly (after which they'll have a better idea of their own capacity).

u/[deleted] · 6 pointsr/powerlifting
u/gzcl · 5 pointsr/powerlifting

>What are some of your favorite books?

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Sure, some of it may be "outdated" or whatever. But honestly, programming for strength is relatively easy versus programming for sport. The big things to control are training stress (essentially time under tension), general fatigue (from both training, work, life, etc.), and recovery (uh, sleep, food, sex?). From there... it gets a bit more complex, but honestly, it's not hard to learn.

u/asuwere · 5 pointsr/Fitness

From Science and Practice of Strength Training under the heading Exercise Selection for Beginners: "The so-called 3-year rule is popular among experienced coaches. According to this rule, an athlete should use strength-specific exercises and exercises with a barbell, such as barbell squats, only after 3 years of preliminary general preparation."

u/voyvf · 4 pointsr/Fitness

I'm rather partial to Science and Practice of Strength Training - V.M. Zatsiorsky

Also, this. (PDF warning.) Gotta get my macros.

u/real_guacman · 3 pointsr/weightlifting

One of my professors in college once told me that this would be the only book I'd ever need when it comes to programming.

Science and Practice of Strength Training

u/choplift · 2 pointsr/Fitness

If you want to learn about strength training theory read http://www.amazon.com/Science-Practice-Strength-Training-Edition/dp/0736056289/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375178142&sr=8-1


It covers most aspects of strength training. Programming short term and long term, exercise selection, injury prevention, goal specific training, intesity, volume, frequency etc etc. Olympic sports and powerlifting are usually referred to in the examples in the book so it's not specifically for powerlifting, but the principles can be used for all strength training.

u/stratjeff · 2 pointsr/Fitness
u/TheCrunchback · 2 pointsr/BarbellMedicine

This book is quite necessary if you aim to learn more about the ins and outs of periodization nutrition, etc. Another book I'd highly recommend is this book by the legend, Zatsiorsky, which is focused mainly on periodization and important principles on strength training.



Getting both of these either new or in good condition via amazon is cheaper than what you'd pay for this RTS classroom thing, which is either 100 or 135 bucks per month, which is not worth it when there's cheaper literature by the folks who run the game.

u/bigcockjno · 1 pointr/Fitness

I'm reading from the Glossary on the "look inside!" Please tell me the context of this:


> 3-year rule -- The recommendation to use exercises with a heavy barbell (like barbell squats) only after 3 years of preliminary general preparation.

u/IAmA_Cloud_AMA · 1 pointr/videos

That very well could be. However, as far as force required to stop an adrenaline-filled person, I would expect a great deal of strength to be needed.

In the book Science and Practice of Strength Training, 2nd Edition Vladimir Zatsiorsky from Penn State University writes that the average human has three levels of strength that can be exerted:

  1. The Absolute Strength is the most that a body physically can do before muscles tear, bones break, veins burst, and organs give out.
  2. The Maximal Strength is the most that a person can consciously make his or her body do. This is usually somewhere around 60% of absolute strength, but for proficient world-class weightlifters it can get closer to 80%.
  3. The "Competitive Strength", for a lack of better term, is the middle ground between the two that is accessible under extreme pressure, panic, adrenaline, or anger. "Fight or Flight" mode can make a person who lifts 200 pounds suddenly lift 250. It made the athletes who reached ~80% of their absolute weight suddenly lift up to 92%. It's one reason why, Zatsiorsky argues, people always set records in the Olympics. There is no greater pressure or anxiety-producer.

    Could a normal grown security guard hold onto a 19 year old in a normal situation? Most likely. In a situation where she is panicking and becomes irrational and impulsive? I think it will be a lot more difficult.
u/silveraw · 1 pointr/Fitness

Well, one of the sources I linked was Jamie Lewis. He has far more certifications than Rippetoe does. And he has actually excelled in weight training, unlike Rippetoe or his trainees have done.

Edit: he says it on or around page 40 in practical programming. Take that fifty bucks and go buy yourself a copy Of the science and practice of strength training, my gift to you.

u/puedo_tener_chzbrgr · 1 pointr/Fitness

Like Optamix said, Starting Strength is a good foundation for learning about the basic barbell exercises. However, to gain any appreciable amount of knowledge you're going to have to delve a bit deeper by reading various texts. For example, Lon Kilgore's Anatomy without a Scalpel is a great book to get acquainted with basic human anatomy. I'd suggest you pick up an introductory book on human nutrition as well. The Science and Practice of Strength Training, although a little more on the advanced side, would also make an excellent addition to your library. As far as mobility and prehab/rehab texts go, Becoming a Supple Leopard is one that is often recommended around here. Oftentimes you can get used copies of these on Amazon in decent condition for a good price.

u/sessyargc_jp · 1 pointr/WellnessOver30

I started with SL5x5, then 5/3/1, read several programming books (Practical Programming for Strength Training, Science and Practice of Strenght Training) and classic programs (The Doug Hepburn Method, Beyond 5/3/1: Simple Training for
Extraordinary Results). I now use a modified 3x5/5x5 program that doesn't rely on linear progression (where I have to add weights every session). Intensity is 70-80% of my 1RM. Testing 1RM occurs whenever I feel good.

Add in a dash of bodyweight exercises (mainly pull-ups, push-ups, dips, L-sits), some bodybuilding-type exercises for hypertrophy (dumbbell centered exercises) that get's rotated in or out, other accessories (good mornings, overhead press, barbell rows, face pulls, farmer walks, some curls, grip training with CoC's).

I realized can't be doing any of the linear progression programs (like SL5x5) at the age of 40 (injuries heal slower, recovery is also slower given that I go to the gym 4days a week)! With that said, I'm almost 2X BW (@68kg) with my squats and deads after 6 months of training (and mostly pain/injury free).

u/smt1 · 0 pointsr/Fitness

Read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Science-Practice-Strength-Training-Second/dp/0736056289

It can answer that kind of question without the kind of broscience that is in SS (sacrilege!).