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u/lvl_5_laser_lotus · 6 pointsr/Buddhism

> you've got a real way with words :)

You take that back right now! It's not true at all.

(See, now that would be an example of the aggressive humility Frosh was speaking to.)

In my study, I'm actually trying to steer away from the Sanskrit and Pali terminology. I understand the concepts are most expressive in their original language, but it is not my original language. And I'm not really interested in learning another language; I'm very much interested in the concepts, though. So it is necessary to understand the original to a degree. One certainly shouldn't cling to the original out of some extreme nostalgia or deluded preference.

I might know the varied meanings and deep expression of the English word 'feelings', and even the Sanskrit/Pali 'Vedanā', but I also understand how difficult and off-putting the language could be to beginners (and even the more advanced.) So, I'm turning more and more to neuroscience and psychology to supplement my study. E.g. the book Feelings above was checked-out for the purpose of better understanding one of the skandhas.

I recommend Self Comes to Mind: Constructing the Conscious Brain for an excellent description of the concatenation of neural processes that result in a mind capable of self-consciousness.


Edit: On Suffering: I like the tripartite definition. There are 3 kinds of suffering that mark this world:

  1. The suffering of change. Even happiness is suffering because it must end.
  2. The suffering of suffering. Pain and sorrow, etc. are obviously forms of suffering.
  3. The suffering of the cycle of uncontrollable rebirth.

    a la Berzin
u/[deleted] · 1 pointr/atheism

This is a new book written by the Neuroscientist Antonio Damasio. He is currently trying to scientifically prove that consciousness is contained in the matter of the brain. This is what I am basing my speculation off of.

u/chefranden · 1 pointr/Christianity

>I'd argue that the idea that consciousness is non-material is our basic intuition.

And that is all you have to go on. Intuition is not a terribly reliable source of information about the nature of real reality. By intuition the sun rises in the east, travels across the heavens, and sets in the west while the earth remains stationary.

I pointed to books in links above that show the material basis for consciousness. I'm not going to be able to reproduce it here. But if you want to credit intuition there seems to be enough information about the universe being material and none about it being non-material to intuit that consciousness is also material.

Some Books:

I Am a Strange Loop; Godel, Escher, Bach; Philosophy in the Flesh; The Feeling of What Happens; Descartes' Error; Self Comes to Mind

>Holy shit, how many times do I have to say that I think that the physical brain plays a vital role in consciousness before you stop trying to argue as if I was asserting something to the contrary?

How many times do I have to say that physical brain is the only thing in evidence? If it is the physical brain and something, produce the "and something". I can produce the physical brain. So it seems my task is done and yours has yet to begin.

Do you have to demonstrate the non-material scientifically? Well of course you do. You say you can't, yet at the same time want it to be the controlling stuff. How can it do that with no connection? And if it has a connection to the material, then you should be able to study it scientifically.