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u/Layin-Scunion · 50 pointsr/ShitWehraboosSay

> We once made a low-level attack near Eastbourne,' recalled a pilot called von Greim. 'When we got there, we saw a large mansion where they seemed to be having a ball or something; in any case we saw a lot of women in fancy-dress, and an orchestra. We turned round and flew towards it. The first time, we flew past, and then we approached again and machine-gunned them. It was great fun!'

This is one of thousands of German transcripts recorded during "Operation Eavesdrop" by the British.

A German man spend a decade compiling them and wrote a book:

Soldaten by Sönke Neitzel

He is legitimately the original guy to claim "the majority of the Wehrmacht was not honorable" and he made that judgement based off of the hundred thousand transcripts from German POWs he read through.

u/Gracchus__Babeuf · 30 pointsr/ShitWehraboosSay

Best book for these people to read is Soldaten. Because it shows the frank conversations the German POWs had when they thought no one was listening.

u/Ppppppaul · 5 pointsr/wwiipics

Check this book for example: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Soldaten-Fighting-Killing-Secret-Second/dp/1849839492

And if you think that Jews were only one victims of war so you're wrong.

u/DdCno1 · 1 pointr/HistoryPorn

No, actually the book "Soldaten" by Sönke Neitzel and Harald Welzer. It's based on secret British recordings of German POWs, who talked freely about the crimes they committed, including shockingly casual descriptions of sexual violence followed by murder.

The book has been translated into English:

https://www.amazon.com/Soldaten-Fighting-Killing-Sonke-Neitzel/dp/1849839492

The order to execute all captured female combatants was issued by General Günther von Kluge in June 1941, right at the start of Barbarossa. The reason for this was that the mere idea of armed women fighting alongside men was an affront to the Nazis' rigid concept of gender roles. They saw it as a direct attack on the "natural order" (a term used to give their absurd ideology a veneer of legitimacy).

u/daveirl · 0 pointsr/cringepics

I did watch it. It did underplay how vilified Jews were in Germany at the time. Do you think it was even remotely realistic that soldiers like Friedhelm and Wilhelm would be hanging out with their Jewish buddy in 1941 Berlin. Give me a break. If anything the series showed the Polish resistance to be more anti-semitic than the Wermacht which is patently absurd.

> Ah yeah that's right, every German was a jew killing nazi. That's right

No, they obviously weren't, but the series perpetuated the idea, popular among many Germans, that Nazi ideology wasn't massively popular across all of German society at the time. It was. It wasn't just specialist SS death squads doing the killing, plenty of ordinary Wermacht units were busily killing Jews on the Eastern front with glee. Take a read of Soldaten: On Fighting, Killing and Dying: The Secret Second World War Tapes of German POWs if you want to get a good insight into the typical mind of a German soldier at the time. I'll give you a hint they weren't like Wilhelm.