Reddit reviews Stonewall: The Riots That Sparked the Gay Revolution

If this person thinks he's wrong, then it's them who don't know history. An excerpt from this book. I've never seen someone get so much flack for being right about a historical event, and no one in the gay media stands up to the queer mob to correct the record, even though it's unlikely every gay journo is ignorant of the scholarship produced on the riots (that book was widely reviewed in the gay press). More like, they're afraid to go against the grain and be vilified on Tumblr/Twitter as a white cis gay who's literally killing trans teens, or something like that.

Anyway, talk about trans POC female privilege - to lie about history like that, and have everyone (including the people you're erasing and vilifying - white cis gay men) meekly agree with you.

Who? None of the classic books or interviews say she started it or was there. If you look at the citations none of them have comtemporary or firsthand accounts, none of the older books from the 80s or 90s mention her. Remember stonewall inn was 98% gay men and very few drag queens and only a few lesbians were there. In the day, most lesbians and gays did not hang out at the same bars or venues like in smaller towns dotting the USA landscape. She was a pinoneer for lesbian rights, but I doubt she had anything to do with stonewall. https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/287729/transgendering-stonewall

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Contemporaneous press accounts and the most credible scholarship both confirm that the crowd which partook in the Stonewall uprising was primarily not trans, female, and of color, but gay, male, and white. “Hundreds of young men went on a rampage in Greenwich Village,”  the Times reported the day after the uprising began, using “young men” repeatedly to describe the rioters. A story in the next day’s paper again referred to “large crowds of young men” engaged in fisticuffs with police. The Village Voice reported that, of the 200 people ejected from the Stonewall Inn the first night of the riots, only five people dressed as women were arrested.

“My research for this history demonstrates that if we wish to name the group most responsible for the success of the riots, it is the young, homeless homosexuals, and, contrary to the usual characterizations of those on the rebellion’s front lines, most were Caucasian; few were Latino; almost none were transvestites or transsexuals,” concludes David Carter in Stonewall, the definitive account of the uprising, for which he conducted hundreds of interviews. Carter quotes one of the bar’s owners stating that its clientele was “98 percent male.” As for the presence of transgender people, the Stonewall was “not a generally welcoming place for drag queens,” Eric Marcus, editor of an oral history of the gay rights movement, wrote in 1999. “The majority of the hundreds of people who crowded onto Christopher Street and jammed Sheridan Square were young gay men.” In his 1996 book American Gay, the sociologist and anthropologist Stephen O. Murray writes that “men familiar with the milieu then insist that the Stonewall clientele was middle-class white men and that very few drag queens or dykes or nonwhites were ever allowed admittance.” Sylvia Rivera herself once told an interviewer that “The Stonewall wasn’t a bar for drag queens. … If you were a drag queen, you could get into the Stonewall if they knew you. And only a certain number of drag queens were allowed into the Stonewall at that time.”

I know in Carter's Stonewall history, he set up a contrast between Mattachine/DoB and the "street level" rioters at Stonewall. It's been a while since I read it.

https://www.amazon.com/Stonewall-Riots-That-Sparked-Revolution/dp/0312671938

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I found Stonewall: The Riots that Sparked the Gay Revolution to be a very informative book. I was honestly surprised by how much I learned from it. Also, despite only the word gay being in the title, it has a little bit of everyone present.