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u/StraightTalkExpress · 7 pointsr/weightroom

> our refusal to even attempt to exercise the rudiments of reading comprehension is becoming uninteresting. Can you enlighten me on where you've cited peer-reviewed research supporting the validity of your particular methods?

This is such a weird comment thread / criticism.

I'd pick up a copy of this if you're confused.

Nothing that gzcl is doing or saying involves re-inventing concepts of strength training, and I don't think he's making that claim, so I think the onus is on you to point out why you think that this wouldn't work, not him to point out why it would...

u/Phantasm32 · 2 pointsr/strength_training

Sticking to books the only other one i could recommend that I’ve read is the sports gene . It talks about the 10,000 hour rule and basically how some people are just born to be better at sports.

The other two books i have that i need to read are periodization and supertraining .

Other books I’ve been thinking of reading are the louie simmons/westside barbell collection. Especially olympic weightlifting strength manual .
Or
weightlifting programming .
I’m a powerlifter but i enjoy the olympic lifts i’m just not strong with them (best lifts are snatching bodyweight and c&j 1.25 bodyweight).

u/attackoftheack · 0 pointsr/lifting

This was not intended to be a comprehensive scientific review of all possible literature.

There was a second study cited in the Instagram post. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed

There is also the literature in Supertraining by Yuri Verkhoshansky and Mel Siff that analyzed soviet research from the 1950's when the soviets were dominating Olympic weightlifting. https://www.amazon.com/Supertraining-Yuri-V-Verkhoshansky/dp/8890403810

Article on the Russian Conjugate system: https://www.elitefts.com/education/the-development-of-the-russian-conjugate-sequence-system/

Louie Simmons went on to find this literature and create his Conjugate model for Westside Barbell.

Dr Fred Hatfield aka Dr Squat, the first person to squat 1000lbs, also trained with, researched, and spoke of compensatory acceleration.

" Compensatory Acceleration Training (CAT), a training methodology made popular by Fred Hatfield. In his book, Supertraining, Mel Siff explains that "this method refers to the process of deliberately trying to accelerate the bar throughout the concentric phase of the movement, instead of allowing the load alone to determine how one should move." Therefore, not only will an increase in mass (more weight on the bar) cause an increase in muscle tension and resistance, but since force is the product of mass and acceleration (Newton's Second Law), an increase in acceleration will also increase muscle tension and resistance." https://www.elitefts.com/education/compensatory-acceleration-training-maximizing-each-rep-each-set/

This is simply the information that I can quickly think of off the top of my head. I am quite sure there are other studies that support these findings to one degree or another but I am not going to waste any more time here.

So is it set in stone that research can conclusively tell you exactly what speed to lift at is best? No, but that is an unfair and unreasonable level of confidence that simply does not exist for any training methodology. There is no singular best method for everyone. There are just general principles that work for the majority of people.


Yes in my evil genius, I am twisting scientific literature to make things that we already anecdotally knew to be true, to have at least some degree of scientific credibility to them or I am attempting to present a concept that can offer actionable training methods for lifters to try and determine themselves whether or not it works. You are doing the Lord's work by pointing out these undisputed facts.

I would say building the evidence since at least the 1950's was more than gradual enough. But that's just one guys unscientific opinion.

I am being snarky here because you are trying to pick apart a generally accepted training principle that anyone who has used has seen is effective. I never laid claim to being a scientific researcher and merely pointed out that a new study supports what we already know.