Reddit reviews Tenergy TN267 1-4 Cells Li-Po/Li-Fe Balance Charger for Airsoft & RC Car Battery Packs with 1S to 4S XH Type Balance Connector

First things first, see if there are any fields nearby that have rentals. Go out and play with a rental before dropping $500, last thing you'd want to is spend that much money on a loadout only to find you don't like playing airsoft.

Now that being said, $500 is actually a very reasonable starting budget. I'm already going to assume that you have a good pair of boots, if you don't then you def are going to want to add that as something to purchase. So I have a basic loadout, it's going to be 3 different stores because airsoft retailers are an awful place to buy lipo batteries. A lot of these items I've either owned or know people personally who do.

So let's start off with the basics.

• The G&G CM16 SRXL - It's a step up from their basic Combat Machine lineup, but still sub $250. It has a basic MOSFET from the factory that can be programmed to shoot either full auto or 3 round burst when set to auto. One negative about the MOSFET is I've heard reports of it burning out on 11.1v lipos, so stick to 7.4v ones for now. It is going to shoot just below 400, which makes it perfect for field play. It is a keymod rail, but the one downside is it's "airsoft spec" keymod so keep that in mind when buying keymod accessories. Overall it's a great gun for the price and very much a good starting gun.
  
  
• ALTERNATIVE ICS PAR MK3 - This gun is on sale right now, down from $340 to $214, so if you can get it while it's this cheap then it's a steal. ICS guns are tanks and they are very easy to work on down the line due to their split gearbox design. My first gun was an ICS CXP-16 and it is still running for the dude who bought it from me to this very day. You may need to drop a new spring in, but again due to the split gearbox that's super easy.
  
  
• G&P High RPS midcaps - Great mags for a great price. The will handle damn near any ammo and any rounds per second you can throw at it. They are a bit tight in some guns, you might have to give your mag a bit of a love tap to get it to lock in, but at the same time that means there is very little mag wobble. 5 mags is more than enough for your basic open play. If you're wanting to go to longer events down the road, you can just buy another set of 5 and you're golden.
  
  
• G&P CompM4 Replica - I use this red dot on my shorter M4. It's got a great build quality, comes with a kill flash to keep your scope protected, and takes AA batteries. That last bit about taking AA batteries is my favorite part, I am awful about forgetting to turn off my red dot and it's nice to know that it takes a very common battery.
  
  
• LBX Lock and Load Chest Rig in Project Honor - The LBX Lock and Load chest rig is one of the most underrated chest rigs on the market. It can hold damn near anything you'd need for a day of playing. It's very easy to take off and put on thanks to the large zipper up front. It has plenty of padding in all the right places to keep you comfortable throughout the day. It's overall just a great value. The Project Honor camo one being only $25 is an absolute steal, I personally picked one of these up when I saw that price and it's well worth it. It may not be the prettiest camo out there, but you can't even come close to that quality in the $25 price range.
  
  
• Krytac .25g BBs 4000 count - Great BBs, never had any issues with them feeding. It's one of the 4 brands of BBs I will use in my rifles.
  
  
• 6mmProShop 500 round speedloader - A nice, basic speedloader. Better than the smaller pistol mag sized ones since you don't have to fill it up after every freaking magazine. I had one of these for a while, only reason I don't still use it is because someone stole it at an open play. A step up would be the Odin Sidewinder but that puts your budget over $500.
  
  All of this with the Free3Day coupon code puts you at $410.
  
  Now we get to protection gear (and a charger)
  
  
• Pyramex I-Force Dual Pane Goggles - Great pair of budget priced goggles. I personally use these on longer games or days when I just don't feel like running my larger goggles. For anyone that doubts the quality of these Valken rebrandes them for their Zulu goggles and charges almost twice as much.
  
  
• OneTigris mesh lower facemask - Better than the full mesh ones because the cloth on the sides conforms to your face better. There is still plenty of padding on the cloth sides to protect your face and it gives you a better cheek weld on the rifle. Only complaint I have is they do tend to get a little hot if it is very hot outside, but that's the tradeoff for protection.
  
  
• Tenergy lipo charger - Nice, basic lipo charger. You'll need this for the batteries I'm linking later. I use this charger personally, haven't had any issues with it yet.
  
  If you have Amazon Prime, that put's this portion to a total of $53. Overall we're at $463.
  
  Now for the batteries. I always suggest HobbyKing for purchasing lipos, they have by far the best prices on lipos. These 1200 mAh 2s nunchuck lipos should work great for your gun. Lipos are going to give you a better trigger response than NiMH batteries. I'd order two of these, which are about $13 total. Shipping will cost you about $9.
  
  Overall total: $485

Okay, here's my recommended loadout for you: (using your $1k budget)

Gun: Tokyo Marui Recoil Shock M4 SOCOM $460 Test firing video of gun

And yes, despite all the Tokyo Marui stigma that all their electric guns are cheap plastic, the new ones (since 2009) are made of metal.

Mags x3-5 $75-$125

Battery and Charger

Most Tokyo Marui guns hold their values really well, and they perform well too. Most guns, when you open the box, they instantly lose 1/3 of their value from you just touching it. But Tokyo Marui guns have a reputation of being reliable and pretty rare outside of Japan, so they hold their values much better, usually at 80% of original, or sometimes if you find the right buyer it'll hold 100% of their value. Not to mention they perform very good and have superb accuracy right out of the box. The Socom M4 also has a unique bolt lock (like the Systema PTW) and a simulated recoil function that provides feedback when you shoot it. Downside to this gun is that you need to buy special magazines for the gun to feed, or buy an adapter. So if you somehow don't like Airsoft, then you can resell this gun for basically MSRP.

Shirt: Voodoo Tactical Combat shirt $30 Best combat shirt, very breathable, has zippers to vent armpits as well.

Plate Carrier: Shellback Tactical Banshee plate carrier $130 Pretty much a real steel plate carrier, one of the best you can buy, and is not that bulky for better mobility.

Dump pouch: Any dump pouch will do, $15

Mag pouches: I use a condor one $20 (because I'm cheap) but I've tried a HSGI Taco pouch $30 each and they're pretty good... But pretty expensive

Eye Protection: If you play outdoors and want goggles, I can't really give you a recommendation here, but I play indoors and I use a full facemask the dye i4. It fits really well to your face, is low profile, and never fogs.

I would use the remaining money on gun equipment to make to make it more "OPERATORZ"

G&P red dot sight Eotech 551 clone $60

Magpul PTS Handguards $20

Magpul MOE vertical Grip $20 will only work with the MOE hand guards above

Nothing wrong with either, but overpriced--the charger is $20 and an identical battery with Tenergy branding is $12.

Why won't they work with the QX7? My QX7 takes a balance lead.... so no, it won't use the barrel connector, but that shouldn't matter.

As far as the charger goes, I'm not sure what that has off hand. For the longest time I've used this:
https://smile.amazon.com/Tenergy-Balance-Charger-Airsoft-Connector/dp/B004FGWY54/ref=sr_1_4

It charges just via the balance plug. Very slow, but never ran into an issue with it charging anything up to 4s.

As mentioned above though, charging at least LiPos can be dangerous. Most people bunker them or just make sure to watch them while they're charging. Joshua Bardwell had a good video about chargers that helped me understand more about charge rates and such.

Good luck!

This one?

That works, though it is less than ideal. You can charge it whenever, it doesn't have to be discharged.

I have the Cm16 raider 2.0 just get this battery it works fine for me and for the charger get this one it also works fine

Here is a battery and a basic lipo charger

Well, you could get a 7.4 or 9.6 butterfly. Both would have about the same battery life, the 9.6 would have like 100 more MaH. But, as I'm sure other people will mention, the 7.4 will be cheaper if you order from the hobby king US warehouse. The only thing I noticed about that particular website is they ship their batteries with odd connectors sometimes. This one seems alright though. For a charger, I like to stick to very basic ones. I have this one and it works fine.

Edit: I dun goofed. Don't get the battery I linked. It's too big for a crane stock.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FGWY54/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Theres enough of the wire sticking out that I can bring the charger, to the battery.

Battery I use.

Charger I use.

Pick up 2 of the batteries ( if you have amazon prime it will be cheaper than evike). This should be more than enough to get you through a game day.

EDIT: your batteries will be fine as long as you dont leave them in direct sunlight for long periods. Ive never had a problem with heat..

Okay awesome. I just bought the Classic Army Skirmish EC-2 and it has a Deans / Small Tamiya connector.

A couple more things:

So does the 2S and 3S mean a larger battery with longer life? And will that fit in my stock?

What is a good and affordable balance charger that you would recommend? I'm just starting out so trying to ball on a budget. I'm an amazon guy so looking at this one

You're not really going to find a simple balance charger that will do 2 packs simultaneously.

Balance charging 1 pack at high current is a power hungry operation that requires a microcontroller, so invariably pretty much any charger that will do 2 packs at once is going to be fairly intensive and expensive.

When people buy lipo boxes from me, I generally recommend one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Balance-Airsoft-Battery-Charger/dp/B004FGWY54/

As long as the keep the slider switch on "LiPo", they're fairly impossible to screw up, and they're cheap. So you can buy two if you need to.

The basic bitch one

Hasn't failed me in the 2 years I've owned it and X amount of charges.

Oh and I found a charger would this one work?

https://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Balance-Charger-Airsoft-Connector/dp/B004FGWY54/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

I agree with /u/1Davide here entirely. Do not blow off warnings about messing with unprotected Li-Ion cells.

I have seen them ignite nearby materials merely by having the terminals shorted by a split second contact with a screwdriver blade. If they end up igniting themselves (not hard to do btw), good luck putting out that fire with anything but a wheelbarrow full of sand.

Stick to protected, pre-built packs and chargers from non-shady distributors unless you know what you are doing (or care to learn the hard way).

If you are looking for a cheap but reliable charger for DIYing your own pack, though, I'd recommend this one:

• http://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Balance-Airsoft-Battery-Charger/dp/B004FGWY54/
  
  It's meant for airsoft batt packs but you can use the outputs to make it into your own balancing changer since the output connectors are just sets of pin headers.

This one is pretty good if you're just looking for a bare-bones charger, but it lacks a discharger feature which is useful for LiPOs:

https://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Balance-Charger-Airsoft-Connector/dp/B004FGWY54/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=lipo+balance+charger&qid=1567128039&s=gateway&sr=8-6

For a little more you can get this one with the discharge feature, but I have never owned this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Haisito-Battery-Balance-Charger-Discharger/dp/B07QRQT3LC/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=lipo+balance+charger&qid=1567128147&s=gateway&sr=8-4

With the battery and charger you have on there they don't match. you can't use a nimh charger on a lipo you'll blow it up.

If you're going to use a lipo battery I use this charger

https://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Cells-Li-PO-Balance-Charger/dp/B004FGWY54/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1510907253&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=airsoft+lipo+charger&psc=1

also with that battery it will only work if your gun is front wired (the plug for the battery is in your handguard) if its rear wired it wont work because you need the battery in the buffer tube.

as far as the gun sack you can pick up a hard rifle case at walmart for under 25$ and it will keep your rifle safe and you can lock it with padlocks if you'd like

I also really wouldn't recommend a paintball mask either cause they usually fog unless you get a really nice one like a dye i4/i5. they are also almost impossible to aim down sights with. I use arena flak jaks as I just pop out the vents and they never fog and you can get cheap replacement lens on ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Arena-Flakjak-Tactical-Eye-Protective-Goggles-Tan-Airsoft-Paintball-Tactical-New/253221912379?epid=1001535811&hash=item3af533bf3b:g:sNEAAOSwCmNZxI2I

others recommend the pyramix goggles as they are lower profile but I just find it easy for them to move off my eyes by just moving facial muscles

https://www.amazon.com/Pyramex-I-Force-Sporty-Anti-Fog-Goggle/dp/B006WPSDXS/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1510907577&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=pyramix+i+force

with those if you want lower face protection most people recommend the one tigris as it makes it easy to aim down your sights

https://www.amazon.com/OneTigris-Comfortable-Adjustable-Protective-Available/dp/B01MTS1611/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1510907635&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=one+tigris+mesh+mask&psc=1

bamf mags I've heard many different things on them so i guess it just depends on your gun if they fit they will be good if not kwa k120s, g&p skullfrog, and pts epm are all good mid caps and those go in order from least to most expensive

Charging multiple Li-ion cells is complicated; you need to balance the cells as you charge them.

But there are plenty of chargers out there, particularly by model car racers, for the job. You just need to hook up the endpoints and the balancing leads.

Most hobby Lithium polymer (Lipo) chargers will, if you dig into the specifications, also charge Lithium-ion cells (which want a slightly lower charge oltage, 4.1 vs. 4.2 V). For example, this $20 charger will charge Li-ion.

Check out the Krytac forum for technical discussions on Krytac products.

I've got my FDE Krytac LVOA-C on the way, but I did order two batteries from Hobby King:

2000mah 2S 15~25C LiPo (7.4V)

2000mah 3S 15~25C LiPo (11.1v)

Researching on the Krytac forum, if you have a US-market Krytac AEG, you should be fine using a 11.1v. However, if you are in Europe, you may have better results with the 7.4v. My friend received his US-market LVOA-C last week and the 11.1v worked great.

I'd also recommend this Tenergy charger: http://amzn.com/B004FGWY54
I've got a more involved LiPo fast charger, but the Tenergy is a simple balance charger that'll do the job just fine. Also, don't forget to get a Kevlar lipo bag for safety!

This is the charger I'm planning on getting. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004FGWY54/ref=ox_sc_act_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3IAN4VN1Q26HU

I have zip ties, wire, soldering irons, heat shrink and everything else.

I am also considering LiPos, would this be good or is the IMAX the best option

Battery

Charger

Loader

[Solder gun]
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006NGZK0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AMH4W1K8OCGMX)

BBs

Deans

Does everything look compatible before I pull the trigger on the order.

Sorry to bother you again but are these a good battery and charger https://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Balance-Charger-Airsoft-Connector/dp/B004FGWY54
https://www.evike.com/products/40190/b

Something like this, with a recharge socket: https://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Balance-Airsoft-Battery-Charger/dp/B004FGWY54

https://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Balance-Charger-Airsoft-Connector/dp/B004FGWY54/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=lipo+charger&qid=1568604470&sr=8-5

Will this charger and this battery work for the specna arms edge?

https://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Cells-Li-PO-Balance-Charger/dp/B004FGWY54
This is the charger I use, I highly recommend it.

Problem with looking up ''are Lipo safe'' online, you'll get dozens of horror stories, but of course, no mention of the tens of thousands of times LiPos were completely fine.

You can get balance chargers for pretty damn cheap. I've used this one for my airsoft LiPos for years without any issues. However investing in a higher quality universal one might benefit you in the long run, especially if you're scared of LiPos. (You shouldn't be. Careful, yes. Scared, no).

Lipo bags are overpriced and useless. Lots of people here say to charge it in an ammo can, it works, but even simpler is in a stainless steel pot with the lid propped open. Unless you make them fail, LiPos don't ''explode''; they catch fire more or less violently depending on the fault. All you need is something that's not flammable and non-airtight to charge it in.

As for taking care of them. Don't run them too hot, don't puncture or bend them and most important; never short a LiPo battery. That's it. I'd add don't overcharge, but if you're using a LiPo charger, that shouldn't happen anyway.

Also, the whole thing about balance charging; normal battery cells can be charged 'through' eachother, meaning that you can charge them all at once to the nominal voltage (say, a 9.6V NiMh battery) and they're going to be fine. Lithium cells needs to be charged independently to their nominal voltage (3.7V for LiPo cells) to make sure one cell is not overcharged and develops a fault, that's what 'balance-charging' means.
That's why LiPos batteries have a small, extra connector. This connector let's you monitor the voltage in each cell and that's what balance chargers use. The only thing you need to worry about is to make sure the charger you pick has the proper way of interfacing with the batteries you buy. If you buy a 2 cell (7.4V) or 3 cell (11.1V) just make sure to pick a charger that can balance that number of cells and has the proper connector (It's usually pretty obvious in the description). Unless it's a single cell, you will always have different ports for charging and discharging LiPos.

A pre-installed mosfet/etu is the best you're gonna get for trigger response at a lower price. All the aftermarket drop-in mosfet/etu system are quite expensive relative to the price of that g&g r8-l.

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I'm guessing the battery that it comes with is the 9.6v nimh? a 7.4v lipo will be far better for trigger response (at least as far as you can get with a small budget). Lipo batteries can be had for ~$10 each on hobbyking, and a basic smart charger will only cost you between $15-30, depending on what features you want.

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The "scope" that it comes with is just a cheap red dot sight. You can find plenty of affordable and reliable red dot sights on Amazon or ali-express (example).

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The bundle might be convenient, but it's definitely not the best route you should take.

The battery was in it but had no swells before hand. It was already in there and fired it for a test. Nothing. Went inside and thats where thisnpost started. Havent touched it since, so yeah.
I really do feel stupid now but i think these are a solution. https://www.amazon.com/Airsoft-Battery-1000mAh-Tamiya-Connector/dp/B0728B9T7K/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?keywords=7.4v+lipo+battery+airsoft&qid=1564437608&s=gateway&sprefix=7.4v+lipo+&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyS1YwWUw0RUJNWUJLJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDAyMTA0MTBHWFdPVkk0RkNVRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUExMDA5NjQxMkFTVlEzQ1NLVzc3MCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX3Bob25lX3NlYXJjaF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
https://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Balance-Charger-Airsoft-Connector/dp/B004FGWY54/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=lipo+smart+charger+airsoft&qid=1564437507&s=gateway&sprefix=lipo+smart+charger+airs&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExWksyS1NZVEExUkE0JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTY3OTY4MzRHMVZVNzNLUkJRQiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODU0MTYyMkI0VERRMEwyWk5GNCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX3Bob25lX3NlYXJjaF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

Tenergy 1-4 Cells Li-PO/Li-Fe... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004FGWY54?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share this one, he just said he had it set to LIPO, I think that was his problem