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u/mrteapoon · 73 pointsr/sysadmin

Honestly, when you go in for "the big talk" just keep your value and importance to your company pinned on your chest. It's a lot harder to let go of someone when they know just how much will have to be done once you're gone.

Doesn't necessarily help after the fact, but you might get some use out of the 48 Laws of Power. Great book by Robert Greene that breaks down some crucial social/professional skills that often go overlooked. I read it for the first time when I was 16 and it really changed the way I approach work relationships as a whole. It's not some kind of self help guru silliness, but rather a collection of historical instances where a small shortcoming lead to the demise of empires, businesses, and even just individual people. Why not learn from the mistakes of generals, kings, moguls, etc? :)

Law 1: Never Outshine the Master
>Always make those above you feel comfortably superior. In your desire to please or impress them, do not go too far in displaying your talents or you might accomplish the opposite – inspire fear and insecurity. Make your masters appear more brilliant than they are and you will attain the heights of power.

u/Alephone1 · 34 pointsr/MGTOW

Dude, hate to break it, but high school never ends.

Wait 'till you get in the workplace.

But MGTOW gives you power.

Also read 48 Laws of Power. Lots of good advice.

u/theDaninDanger · 18 pointsr/programming

As someone with an MBA, I can tell you all the things that book mentions are first year, undergraduate business school material. Unfortunately, for those who have no desire to pursue analytical and empirical research techniques, the majority of an MBA is about office politics.

Your education primarily consists of learning how to best impress the professors without appearing as a sycophant to your colleagues. Albeit, that is exactly what one needs to get ahead in business.

I usually hate people recommending books, but if you want to know what an MBA is about, I wouldn't read "10 day MBA." I would read 48 Laws of Power. While your soul will die a little from reading it, this book will give you all the ammunition you need to move up in business.

Those of you considering an MBA, feel free to ask me any questions. I'd be happy to help if I am able!

u/ringingbells · 13 pointsr/AdviceAnimals

To further support Jonny1992, but in no way condoning this kind of evil behavior, a ton of big shots (50 Cent Co-wrote a book with the author) supposedly read and adhere to this book, 48 Rules of Power. Chapter 5: "Get others to do the Work for you, but Always Take the Credit."

BTW, I hate that people think they can just take credit and it's ok. It's not. You're evil. You're not just following a book of rules. You're an evil person.

u/ImaNarwhal · 11 pointsr/The_Donald

His book The 50th Law with Robert Greene, author of The 48 Laws of Power is packed full of knowledge.

u/Jek_Tano_Porkins · 10 pointsr/AskHR

Good book to read if you want to navigate the corporate ladder is a book called “48 Laws of Power”. Lots of tricks and methods used for effectively building relationships and dealing with adversaries. Other than that, top comment is correct in that you should just do your job the best you can (without burning yourself out).

Link for the book: The 48 Laws of Power

u/Geckel · 9 pointsr/IWantToLearn

This is my own interpretation, with a little added psychology. There are two big factors I'd consider in this and they both fall under the description of "environment".

  1. The Social Group. Everyone plays a role in their social group. Each person exhibits "expected" behaviours. It makes social gatherings easy and "predictable". We are a species of comfort. Find out what role you play and change it. This is hard because it surprises and makes a lot of your friends uncomfortable. We are afraid of change.

  2. The Drinking Setting. The drinking environment plays a huge role. When people choose to drink, they are often aware of the drinking setting. Most people drink in a setting where they are able to experience new emotions. They're getting drunk and being vulnerable, guarded, happy, sad, etc. Many people go to bar exactly for the unpredictable nature of meeting new people, feeling attractive, flirting, etc. This kind of environment creates a feedback loop for people to try out a different persona and not be, for the most part, shunned by their social community. This environment is hard to reproduce.

    Now here's the thing about people. We are pre-disposed to certain behaviours as cultivated by our genetics and our environment but we are incredibly malleable. If you decide to be happy, you will be happy. Same with sad, confident, timid, outgoing, shy etc. Gain experience with new behaviours and then reproduce them. After enough reproduction you will no longer have to "choose" to be the fun guy. It will be natural. This is what people often call being "on".

    As an aside, be wary of narcissistic tendencies, particularly dishonesty. As soon as you begin lying to yourself, you're going to be in for a world full of hurt and disillusionment.

    Also bear in mind that not everything lasts, learn and grow. Like everything else, there's time for friendly banter and the "fun guy" but I wouldn't invite that guy to too many funerals or business meetings.

    If you're interested in doing a little background homework that expands on the ideas discussed, don't hesitate to consult the rules.
u/acepincter · 8 pointsr/sysadmin

Sorry buddy. I really feel for you. I do. If I were in your position I would feel like I had been so completely betrayed. And, you have.

Get yourself a copy of Robert Greene's The 48 Laws of Power so you can see firsthand how he manipulated the powers that be in to a sleepy acceptance of safety over hard fact.

Then, decide just how much of this political game you wish to play. You've been outmaneuvered. But it's not checkmate for you, no, just a check. You've learned enough IT to handle a complex task, and now you need to learn how to handle the people who might try to maneuver you out so they can take the credit.

Personally, I don't like this part of our business at all, I wish it would go away, but that expectation would require all humans to be rational. You would be wise to learn your opponent's tactics so you can employ them while simultaneously providing a value to your employer.

Sucks, but it's the reality until we have some guaranteed safety net for displaced talented workers. I encourage you to support a basic income, so that technicians wouldn't have to feel so threatened that they need to engage in political maneuvering.

u/cxj · 8 pointsr/PurplePillDebate

TLDR: Your experience of musicians is shaped by their performance to you, which they know is necessary to get ahead. You are not truly an "insider" to their world, largely because its mostly a boys club. Rather, you are a resource who can only be utilized if musicians make you like them. This is why you are being told and shown the things you want to hear.

Having toured in many bands and occasionally rolled in some fairly high profile circles as well, this aligns a lot with my experiences. However, the key here is that I find your experience of these guys believable, but I am also aware there is a different reality you have not, will not, and are not supposed to experience. Touring music is largely a boys club, especially rock and hip hop. Even at the low level, musicians are performers, and part of that performance is appealing to the audience down to the micro level. That includes appealing to people like you, who would be appalled by a lot of the private conversations I'm sure the nice sweet alphas you meet have. The top musicians would not be where they are if they failed to follow one of the crucial 48 laws of Power: think as you like, but act like others. This book is massively popular within the hip hop community to the point where Roberte Greene even wrote a book about 50 cent. Greene's work, especially 48 laws, is the heart and soul of true redpill imo.

My point here is that a lot of what you are experiencing is a performance unto itself. As u/Atlas_B_Shruggin has said, artists and musicians are often "show ponies" lol.

>Again, this might be just my theory, but it seems like, if you don't HATE women, like TRP does, you don't feel threatened by feminity, you also don't mind women being independent and completely liberated.

No shit, who but a liberated, "independent" woman would fuck an unshowered, unshaven, broke ass dude who lives in a van 8 months out of the year, knowing full well this will only last one night because he is constantly on the road? Also, the feminism these dudes are often encountering is the "sex positive" kind that benefits them because like you said, they are attractive and cannot meaningfully offer commitment.

>All over the internet you read that "a rejection is not a rejection" and that you have to push a girl till she gives up.

Tons of band dudes have this mentality, but it doesn't mean pester an obviously uninterested girl or literally tear her clothes off. It means if you get a no, deescalate and build more comfort before trying again. Lost track of how many t imes I've had to explain this. It's really not a tough concept.

>I explained I'm not interested in sex outside of a relationship, it was met with a complete understanding (and it was one of the guys of the "smoking hot rock star" type too).

A) you got lucky, this could have gone much worse
B) this guy DGAF's because he knows there's other pussy out there, he may have even gotten laid that same day before or after you.

>Once you are really attractive, you don't have to use tricks to become a center of attention.

LOL performance is ALL tricks to become the center of attention. Great performers have simply internalized them one way or the other. You think a good puppeteer lets you see the strings?

>As for said partners, often they are really pretty girls, but - an interesting fact - some musicians pick girls/women who are by no means considered physically attractive, but have certain achievements in their (usually artistic) field.

This happens sometimes, but those girls are almost always getting cheated on with the type of girl you think they don't want for some mind blowing reason. Their gfs are often even aware of it and don't care. Some of them even have another sidepiece, often for weird reasons like not liking to have to sleep alone while their man is on the road, which he usually is. Musicians have unspoken "open" relationships sometimes, with the dude cheating for variety of ONS and the girl having one consistent back burner dude for emotional intimacy/companionship/sex while he's gone.

>I suppose once you have a confidence of a rock star, you don't feel the need to show off that you are able to get a super hot teen babe, huh?

Once again, I am truly mind blown about female projection here. Women simply cannot accept that the motivation for fucking/dating teen babes is almost purely physical pleasure and showing off is a secondary benefit if at all. Women date men to show off status, men date women to fuck a good looking body.

I've known all types of musicians. Ultimately, band dudes are the scum of the earth and should be avoided by women looking for long term commitment and a family. Yes there are exceptions, but chances are you are just enjoying the performance ;)

EDIT: One last example I'll add is the recent wave of outrage at Warped Tour pop punk bands over the last few years. A huge amount of their fan base comes from tumblr, which of course has the unspoken assumption of feminism being a part of their bands views, so of course the bands champion this cause. Then, inevitably, almost every band has a scandal of some girl leaking screen shots of some band member scamming on 15 year old smokin hot jailbait, and the scene goes berzerk as though this hasn't been par for the course on Warped Tour since its inception. The difference is the audience now has evidence of it that can spread in a viral manner, and are mad that their perception of the band was obviously inaccurate.

u/thirdfounder · 8 pointsr/TrueReddit

as a tool of power i think probably yes, actually, in a big way.

a lot of the Trump madness is perhaps in part a method articulated in several business/leadership/management books that owe quite a bit to Sun Tzu and Clausewitz. my favorite is Robert Greene's 48 Laws of Power. no one is going to read it -- here's a synopsis -- but if you did you'd see Trump apparently keeps this on his bedstand (if he reads; maybe audiobook?)

one of the primary principles is the use of confusion and deception, which often manifests as the appearance of ineptitude.

admittedly, if you assume Trump is a moron, accepting this requires a major reframe -- a lot of his pablum as purposeful and practiced cant, for example. and it isn't a perfect match all the way down. but read through the synopsis and see if you aren't convinced by the time you get to Law 7.

for the purposes of this comment, Law 17:

>Keep others in suspended terror, cultivate an air of unpredictability


u/dJe781 · 7 pointsr/everymanshouldknow

The 48 Laws of Power because everyone will, at some point, be involved in power-centered relationships, would it be personal or professional.

I work in a high-conflict-prone environment and this is the single most useful peace of literature that I own.

It's very easy to read, it's based on historical anecdotes (that always come in handy when you need to tell a story), and it's self-critical.

u/-Tyler_Durden- · 7 pointsr/asktrp

Read the 48 Laws of Power.

This is your work place; you shouldn't be looking for plates there. Think how you can use this guy to accomplish your goals. Ask him for favors you don't really need. Get him bogged down with your busy work. And whatever you do, don't get angry.

u/favours_of_the_moon · 7 pointsr/asktrp

48 Laws of Power. Or as I call it, "The Pedantic Sociopath." lol

Short version:

Full version:

I think this might be the full version in PDF, but I'm not sure:

u/Tangurena · 7 pointsr/AskReddit

There are a number of books that I think you ought to read to get a better understanding of office politics and how to cope/deal with them. All offices have politicking going on, and any company that claims otherwise is lying to you. Any time more than 2 people get together, there will be some sort of jostling for power and attention. When that happens at work, we call it "office politics".

Your library may have these, and if you get them, read them at home. Don't ever bring them into the office.

Corporate Confidential. HR is your enemy, not your friend. Gives a number of examples of what will destroy your career with companies, many of which you (and I) probably do without realizing the consequences.

The Passionate Programmer. The first edition of this book was called "my job went to India". While aimed at programmers, the points are to keep your mind and skills up to date as technology and business move too rapidly to let things get rusty.

To Be or Not to Be Intimidated.
Looking out for number one.
Million Dollar Habits. I feel that these 3 by Robert Ringer are very important. If you think his first book was about to intimidate others, you only read the press coverage. If you think his books are about real estate, then you only skimmed them. There are a lot of people in the world who will try to intimidate you into giving up what is yours, and he shows you what some of them are like, and what countermeasures you can use.

The Art of Deception. Bad title - it is about arguments, how to make them, win them and tell if you're hearing a bad one. Used to be called "rhetoric" when Plato and Aristotle taught the subject.

Snakes in Suits. There are some evil people out there. You'll work for some of them. You will be stabbed in the back by some of them.

Bullies, Tyrants, and Impossible People. One book on office politics and dealing with some of the worse sort.

The Gentle Art of Verbal Self-Defense at Work. Some folks are very good with verbal manipulation, this book and the others in the series, cover how to deal with such people.

Winning with People. Most of the books this author writes are about managers and leadership. This book is more about people skills. It will be focused more at managers, but I think it is a good one.

The 48 Laws of Power. They have it. You want some. Light read with anecdotes. I like his other books as well.

Games At Work. Office politics.

It's All Politics. Yes it is.

Moral Politics. Liberals and conservatives, why do they think that way? You'll work with some of the opposite persuasion some day, so understanding where they come from is a reasonable idea. Most books on this subject are insulting and degrading, but I think this one is pretty much judgement-free.

> When I walk by him going to the bathroom, he will stop talking until I walk by.

Do the same. When they come to your desk, always brush them aside with "I'm sorry, I can't talk now, I'm busy working".

u/Empiricist_or_not · 6 pointsr/HPMOR

Read the 48 laws of power and the Art of seduction

Long term take Harry's Advice about lying, but never make you motivations clear, and rember the rule of never doing anything for only one reason.

u/abintra · 6 pointsr/ZenHabits
u/Bennu2017 · 5 pointsr/TheRedPill

I really like your point about everything having to be about you. I'm almost half way through Rules for Radicals and I can't support it enough. I think OP may be having issues with preconceptions about certain words or ideas. A word from Alinsky.

> "Even the word politics itself, which Webster says is "the science and art of government," is generally viewed in a context of corruption. Ironically, the dictionary synonyms are "discreet; providing, diplomatic, wise."

> "The same discolorations attach to other words prevalent in the language of politics, words like power, self-interest, compromise, and conflict. They become twisted and warped, viewed as evil. Nowhere is the prevailing political illiteracy more clearly revealed than in these typical interpretations of words. "

He goes on to shed those words in a positive light and I can't recommend his book enough. I really like when OP said

> "Its all fucking fake."

He's slowly realize life's a game and most people don't even realize they're playing. We have the rules now just do it

u/wothy · 5 pointsr/consulting

Personally I've found there to be few helpful books which directly relate to management consulting / business strategy. The only one that I've found really helpful is:

  • Winning - an overall look on business strategies and philosophies used by Jack Welch (former CEO of GE)

    But here are some books that are very helpful in developing people / soft skills essential to effective consultants:

  • Getting to Yes - an incredible book on negotating skills.
  • How to Argue and Win Every Time - not as argumentative as it sounds, this is a great book which is hugely helpful on how to present your positions and how to get the best outcome for everyone in a situation.
  • Influence - brilliant book on the ways in which we are influenced to do things.
  • The 48 Laws of Power - a very Machiavellian put pragmatic look on the ways in which personal power is gained / lost.
  • Vital Lies, Simple Truths - how to recognise self deception that we're all prone to and how to overcome its limitations
  • The Blank Slate - a mindblowing book on human psychology and what we're naturally predisposed to be. Helps you to better understand people and their motivations in not just business but all aspects of life. Read from Part 2 onwards.
u/Supervisor194 · 5 pointsr/exjw

I felt exactly the same way and I think I even composed a post that read exactly like this one.

Now, 18 years out, I look at the whole world through this sort of lens. All religion is crazy in one way or another. Politics is crazy in the US mostly because of religious people.

If you haven't read them already, I have a couple of books to recommend. The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan and The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene. The former will help you be a healthy skeptic. The latter will help you not let the world take advantage of you.


u/too_clever_username · 5 pointsr/books

Starting Strength, 3rd Edition by Mark Rippetoe.

Drink, Play, F@#k

Mindfulness in Plain English

The 48 Laws of Power

u/Hooblar · 4 pointsr/everymanshouldknow

Really feel that 48 Laws of Power should be on here.

u/person_ergo · 3 pointsr/consulting

This book has been instrumental for me
Useful to understand scenarios where people acted differently than you would expect and position yourself well

u/Cdresden · 3 pointsr/suggestmeabook

The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene.

u/sun_tzuber · 3 pointsr/suggestmeabook

First and foremost, 48 Laws of Power. It will show you 100+ ways other people have tried and where they failed and succeeded. It's a great introduction. Get this first.

A lot for these are free on

Meditations - On being ethical and virtuous in a position of power.

33 strategies of war - A great companion to the 48 laws.

Art of war - Ancient Chinese text on war and power. All but covered in 48 laws.

Hagakure - Japanese text on war and power. All but covered in 48 laws.

On war - Military strategy from Napoleonic era. All but covered in 48 laws.

Rise of Theodore Roosevelt - Amazing book.

Seeking Wisdom from Darwin to Munger - Abstract thought models and logic patterns of highly successful people.

The Obstacle is the Way - Not labeled a book on power, more like thriving during struggle, which is important to a leader.

Machiavelli: The Prince - Pretty much the opposite of meditations. All but covered in 48 laws.

Also, here's a good TED talk on why power/civics is important to study:

If you've gone over these and want something more specialized, I can probably help.

Are you planning on taking us over with force or charm?

u/bbmc7gm6fm · 3 pointsr/TheRedPill

Frame is dynamic rather than static. You may enter as guest and still be comfortable, receive all the attention and people would want to follow you around.

The 48 Laws of Power is a great book about frame.

Sometimes you need to burn your own house down in order to maintain your frame!

u/aknalid · 3 pointsr/suggestmeabook

I am a few years older than you and I have been going hard with books lately. It's not amazing, but I am on track to finishing about ~400 books by the time I am 30. I am also going for quality more than quantity. As in, if I feel like I didn't digest a particular book, I will keep at it and put other books on hold.

In any case, here are my top 3 recommendations:

1.) The Essential Writings of Ralph Waldo Emerson

2.) The 48 Laws of Power

3.) The Autobiography of Malcolm X

Also, Influence by Robert Cialdini is excellent. One of my favorites.

A little cautionary warning about asking people for recommendations though: Be careful about following other people's lists because those book won't vibe with you the same way. Each of us had our own unique life experiences, so you should be ideally choosing your own books. Lists are good for clues/inspiration though. Frequently, books choose me, not the other way around.

Also, try to keep track of the books (and knowledge) you read. I keep a single page HTML page with all the books I read along with a short note in reverse chronological order. I also have the option of putting this list online in the future if I need to.

u/haydenn156 · 3 pointsr/CCW

It's a phenomenal book by Robert Greene on how those in positions of power/authority act to gain/keep power, and get others to do what you want.

Very interesting if nothing else, really enjoyed reading it.

Would definitely recommend.

u/Chump_No_More · 3 pointsr/askMRP

I'm going to give you an alternative perspective.

The 'Stay Plan' is the same as the 'Go Plan'. Regardless as whether you're with her or not, you must work on you. Having her as the 'sharpening stone' to hone your Frame and MPoO does add a measure of value to your path and your mission. This woman WILL continue to test your Frame, she's doing it now with all the strong emotion. Use her as the metric to your progress.

Contrary to the other voices, there's no urgency here and you have the better hand. Do what it takes to make your hand better. If that means going to another state for a brief, measured period to 'sweeten to pot', then do not lightly take that off the table.

Get your head on straight, retainer a lawyer, and build your plan.

Given your circumstances, the next book you should be reading is The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene. Like right now!

u/thisisbecomingabsurd · 3 pointsr/singularity

A lot of people consciously/subconsciously want an excuse to exploit other people, and the easiest way is often to think of them as objects not people.

For sex:

For power:

For conquest:

For meaning:

For varying personal reasons:

u/ste5ers · 3 pointsr/sysadmin

48 laws of power

spy the lie

Both have helped primarily in dealing with management and cutting through the bullshit.

u/Whiskeybuck · 3 pointsr/everymanshouldknow

I've spent half my life in enterprise and although all these comments have some validity, the truth is, it's important to know when to take shit and from whom. I didn't play the politics game at first and paid dearly. Long story short, when you enter your next job, it is entirely important to be needed and forget liked. That may or may not happen. And for the love of all things, read this:

It changed my career path.

u/Jesus_on_pcp · 3 pointsr/atheism

Sounds like you need to consult the atheist bible . I was in a similar situation until I decided to grab life by the balls.

u/zipiddydooda · 3 pointsr/Entrepreneur

48 Laws of Power would be a great starting point.

You may also find some value in the likes of The Game for learning charisma and attractiveness. There's also a [pretty incredible TV series]( about the same topic. This scene is/was full of douchebags of course, but there are lessons here to be learned.

What Every Body is Saying for mastery of body language. This WILL change the way you interact with others, as you start to read what they are doing as they do it and respond accordingly.

The granddaddy of persuasion is Influence. I am reading this for the third time right now and it is just packed with powerful tools you can use in business and in life.

Oh it should go without saying that How To Win Friends and Influence People is essential reading for any entrepreneur. I use lessons I learned from this book every time I deal with an unhappy client or contractor.

u/chanyourmind · 2 pointsr/seduction

Robert Greene has a good series of books that probably help you out. Art of seduction / Laws of Power / Mastery. You can always check out the always helpful How to Win Friends and Influence People.

u/TenserTensor · 2 pointsr/booksuggestions

I don't much appreciate self-improvement books. I kinda hate the preachy attitude.

That said, I would recommend Mastery. It's not your typical self-help book but I found it really motivating.

Also, this other book by the author seems interesting; though I haven't read it yet.

u/[deleted] · 2 pointsr/AskReddit

Yeah buddy ... if you want scary read this book. Its available online on torrents. It'll make you quiver as you read it and see parallels in modern history. Also, check out the first two chapters of Sociological Insight by Collins ... it does a good job of talking about how society and religion are rooted in each other.

u/-voteforPepe- · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

I'm a (now reformed) felon and I spent most of my criminal days trying to look like I wasn't up to anything. To not arouse suspicion. Most felons/"thugs" have a drug problem and only really attract women who also have a drug problem which carries a lack of commitment with it usually. I think you're misunderstanding some things. A man can (and should) demand respect through his demeanor, by being a "closed book," by making the right choices, by being assertive, etc. One of the 48 Laws of Power is to always obey the law. You cannot be a powerful individual and also a criminal because the rest of society automatically has power over you when you are breaking laws. Based on your posts I think you'd like to read that book, and mighty clarify the difference between a thug (who is alpha in his circle of convicts and trashy women) and a true Alpha Male who commands respect from everyone around him.

u/linkfoo · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

The point of this whole sequence of threads is to discuss The 48 Laws of Power.

u/Buddhamama42 · 2 pointsr/relationships

Do your job. You sound like someone who works hard and who tries hard.

At the risk of sounding cynical, your co-worker sounds completely uninterested in working in a team with you. He also sounds slack and sloppy.

Ignore him and his opinions, just do your job. Send that email, crack the whip and get people working, and if he doesn't like it, tough titties. He obviously feels being popular is more important than doing his job.

I also suggest reading The 48 Laws of Power - its an exercise in cynicism, but for someone in your position, it might be very valuable.

Last but not least, you've already been in a job in which you were well liked and got on with everyone. That tells you that its your current workplace arrangement which is the problem, not you. I've made myself ill doing jobs which stressed me out. I know the job market is tough, but give it another month, or two months or whatever, and if it hasn't improved, start applying for work elsewhere.


Sorry to shout, but you get the idea :)

u/threeliters · 2 pointsr/AskReddit

It seems to me that you are really looking to change how you are perceived by those around you. The one suggestion I would make is to read the following book. Follow it in everything you do.

u/jacksrdtt · 2 pointsr/everymanshouldknow

48 laws of power
By Robert Greene

I wouldn't be where I am today with out it. It teaches you how to deal with power and how it works. It's also an amazingly interesting read. I read it twice a a few years ago and I still flip through it once in a while. It's on sale now at Amazon I believe I bought it for 25$ back then.

u/pickup_sticks · 2 pointsr/PurplePillDebate

Eh, it goes beyond sexual strategy. You can use it to get better insight into how such imminent people as Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Barack Obama reached the commanding heights. They all did it differently, but some of the principles they used are universal. They chose to leverage their respective strengths differently.

Not just males either. Oprah Winfrey, Martha Stuart, Madonna - they all use various principles of persuasion to their advantage. The 48 Laws of Power is good exploration of these principles in a historical context.

u/MinervaDreaming · 2 pointsr/booksuggestions

The 48 Laws of Power

I greatly enjoyed the historical anecdotes.

>"Amoral, cunning, ruthless, and instructive, this piercing work distills three thousand years of the history of power in to forty-eight well explicated laws. As attention-grabbing in its design as it is in its content, this bold volume outlines the laws of power in their unvarnished essence, synthesizing the philosophies of Machiavelli, Sun-tzu, Carl von Clausewitz, and other great thinkers.

>Some laws teach the need for prudence ("Law 1: Never Outshine the Master"), the virtue of stealth ("Law 3: Conceal Your Intentions"), and many demand the total absence of mercy ("Law 15: Crush Your Enemy Totally"), but like it or not, all have applications in real life.

>Illustrated through the tactics of Queen Elizabeth I, Henry Kissinger, P. T. Barnum, and other famous figures who have wielded--or been victimized by--power, these laws will fascinate any reader interested in gaining, observing, or defending against ultimate control."

u/double_snap · 2 pointsr/cscareerquestions

No, I mean if you have to apply that means that nobody knows you. The vice president of the division where I work was the first person that I spoke to, not somebody in HR. He put me through directly to the developers and I set up a technical interview. Had I gone through the regular application process with HR though I probably wouldn't have gotten an interview at all.

I got my offer letter and an application at the same time. They just needed to have one on file, but I already had the job.

Some of the best books that I read in college had nothing to do with data structures or Java or Machine Learning.

The 48 Laws of Power

How to Win Friends and Influence People

Purple Cow

Read them.

u/z2727 · 2 pointsr/intj
u/thesylo · 2 pointsr/jobs

48 Laws of Power may be worth a read. I feel like I handle the office politics better after reading it.

u/sternvern · 2 pointsr/news

Would also recommend the 48 Laws of Power. There are parallels with the Laws and how Trump operates:

  • LAW 2) Never put too much trust in friends, learn how to use enemies

  • LAW 3) Conceal your intentions

  • LAW 4) Always say less than necessary

  • LAW 6) Court attention at all cost

  • LAW 7) Get others to do the work for you, but always take the credit!

  • LAW 12) Use selective honesty and generosity to disarm your victim

  • LAW 15) Crush your enemy totally!

  • LAW 17) Keep others in suspended terror --- cultivate an air of unpredictability!

  • LAW 27) Play on people's need to believe, to create a cultlike following

  • LAW 28) Enter action with boldness

  • LAW 29) Plan all the way to the end

  • LAW 32) Play to people's fantasies

  • LAW 34) Be royal in your own fashion --- act like a king or queen to be treated like one!

  • LAW 36) Disdain things you cannot have --- ignoring them is the best revenge!

  • LAW 37) Create compelling spectacles

  • LAW 43) Work on the hearts and minds of others!

  • LAW 45) Preach the need for change, but never reform too much at once!

  • LAW 48) Assume formlessness!

u/TheEthicalEugenicist · 1 pointr/The48LawsOfPower

I picked up this book three years ago and recently found out it was released two years before I was born. I sometimes read the new reviews on Amazon or the comment section in this video to see peoples first reaction to what they learn.

It puts into perspective how limited my understanding of the world is.

Like what other things am I missing out on?

u/conspirobot · 1 pointr/conspiro

archonemis: ^^original ^^reddit ^^link

What you're dealing with:

>Without Conscience - Dr. Hare

>On Bullshit - H. Frankfurt

Their methods:

>48 Laws of Power - R. Greene

>The Art of War - the Sam B. Griffin translation is the best

u/archonemis · 1 pointr/conspiracy

What you're dealing with:

>Without Conscience - Dr. Hare

>On Bullshit - H. Frankfurt

Their methods:

>48 Laws of Power - R. Greene

>The Art of War - the Sam B. Griffin translation is the best

u/MangoTango54 · 1 pointr/Entrepreneur

10x Rule 10x

The E-Myth Revisited E myth

48 Laws Of Power 48 Laws Of Power

u/Asmul921 · 1 pointr/history

The 48 Laws of Power By Robert Greene is an entertaining read. He kinda sells it as a modern version of Sun-Tzu's "Art of War" but he illustrates each "law" with a handful of detailed historical stories.

For example law 20 is "Do Not Commit To Anyone" and he illustrates this by telling how Queen Elizabeth used her status as an unmarried monarch to manipulate suitors from other nations into doing favors for England, by telling how Isabella d'Este lead the Italian city state of Mantua through a complicated web of alliances by maintaining neutrality, and how Charles Maurice Talleyrand the French diplomat successfully served under Louis XVI, the revolutionary government, Napoleon, and Louis XVIII, without losing his head.

Each story is only a page or two at the most, and the book is filled with them. I like them much more for the historical anecdotes than as some kind of a modern Sun Tzu.

u/quiksilvernyc · 1 pointr/NoFap

Hey Jernest,

Whenever you get the time, you should buy this book from your local store and read it. Its a life changer.

u/csiscool · 1 pointr/UIUC

Edit: I would note that I definitely agree with the other posters' comments on hard work/merit of your work. That's a big element! I just thought I would address your question from another angle, since they already covered the other important elements. :)

Original comment:

Academia + research involves a fairly significant element of relationships and/or politics, which may seem insincere. You could look into books on navigating relationships and/or office politics. Many extroverted or popular people fake it until they make it. That is, treat everyone as if they are already your buddy, and soon they will be.

I’ll list a few books below that are solid regarding navigating relationships and politics... but I would also note that different environments have different politics. (academia has different politics than a corporation, for example)

And if you don't like politics or managing office relationships, you could start your own business. I don't know whether you are an introvert, but I think introverts benefit from owning a business, because there is no stress from trying to anticipate office politics.

Good luck!

Helpful books: (I recommend “How to Talk To Anyone” to start)

Introvert entrepreneur blog:

u/fuckyomama · 1 pointr/history

48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene

It's not exactly what you're looking for but it does give a bit of backstory and context to some of the most influential people in history.

Very Machiavellian in tone which can feel a bit cynical at times but nonetheless a fascinating read...

u/Robot_Embryo · 1 pointr/politics

You've never heard of The 48 Laws Of Power?

The 48 Laws of Power

u/bala-key · 1 pointr/PurplePillDebate

> Always hide your work. Women don't want to know how hard you work for anything.

Law 30: Make your accomplishments seem effortles

u/roughback · 1 pointr/Anger

I used to have much worse anger than I have now, here's some things I was living with that made me lash out.

  • My diet was horrible and I could polish off a case of mountain dew a week
  • I was "stuck" in a repetitive job that made me love that NiN song "every day is exactly the same"
  • I tried to do the /r/NoFap thing to improve my productivity and blah blah, without working things out with my gf first. Non regular sex + no beating off = anger
  • I was a beta pleaser to my girlfriend, who was stuck in this phase of writing covert contracts with others - basically I did nice things for people until it hurt, and wondered why they didn't reciprocate, and then got angry when they kept on taking. People will take if you are giving, that's just the nature of the world.
  • I let my health slip until I hated my body, which further fueled the anger.
  • I was a part time beta orbiter to a female friend who I never approached and resented as she rode the cock carousel - basically another "covert contract".

    Over the space of a year or two I cleaned up my diet, reached for better opportunities at work and began to try and show my eagerness for advancement (ie: instead of asking for a raise I asked to be part of projects that would get me noticed)

    I fapped when i wanted to, which took the stress off of times when my girlfriend wasn't in the mood and made things overall more light hearted when she was in the mood.

    I started to reward good behavior and ignore/punish the bad in every aspect of my dealings with other people. I stopped believing that the world owed me something, and instead realized that it's a dog eat dog world, and if you do good things for yourself, the rest of the world respects you more than if you do good things for them.

    Went to the doctor, he told me that I had to lose weight, and I did - dropped 40 pounds.

    I laid off on my friend who I was covertly coveting, and just let life go on it's own path for both of us. I stopped trying to be someone else, and just realized that real friends are friends naturally.

    I also read books like "the 48 laws of power" and checked out subreddits that are about men empowerment like /r/TheRedPill and /r/MGTOW

    tl;dr: self improvement made anger not necessary.
u/torchlit_Thompson · 1 pointr/AskReddit

The 48 Laws of Power

Enlightening as to just how degenerate most people really are...

u/hanus_man33 · 1 pointr/psychology

Kinda practical, not sure if it's quite what you're looking for-The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene

u/flduckhunter73 · 1 pointr/smallbusiness

I highly recommend reading two books asap:

  • How to win friends and influence people
  • 48 laws of power

    These two books have both shaped me tremendously in terms of how I interact with an treat people and making those changes has only changed my life for the better both in business and personally. The first one is a more positive restore your faith in humanity type and the second is a more ruthless Machiavellian type but they both take an insightful look at people and how they influence each other. They also can both help guide you in decision making in certain situations.

    Other than that, just relax, enjoy the ride, and do your best. Confidence is key.

    Bonus book (nerd alert)

  • The joy of game theory
u/vitalysh · 1 pointr/IAmA

hmmmm maybe 48 Laws of Power? Tried to find 50 Laws of power, and only results that came up are crappy 50 Cent tracks.

u/drawingroomgentleman · 1 pointr/TheRedPill
>Law 48: Assume formlessness
· By having a visible plan you open yourself to attack.
· Stay adaptable and on the move

Also consider reading the whole sidebar, include the references contained in the assorted links. There's a fair amount of good stuff, and it will shed light on much of the discussion.

u/AndersonCouncil · 1 pointr/history

Not an exact answer, but if youre interested in this you should check out "The 48 Laws of Power" by Robert Greene. One of the most interesting books I've ever read, even after reading it maybe 10 or 15 times. The title might seem like it doesnt suit your interests, but for every law there are 2-5 or 6 historical anecdotes that show mistakes and successes administered throughout history. I really couldn't possible "pimp" this book enough.

u/charlesbukowksi · 1 pointr/socialskills

There's a book written for people on this subject.

Read that book. Internalize that everyone is out for themselves. Even those who do things "for others" really are doing it for the satisfaction it gives them and they are no more responsible for their good deeds than they are for being born with their inclinations and tastes.

u/more_lemons · 1 pointr/Entrepreneur

Start With Why [Simon Sinek]

48 Laws of Power [Robert Greene] (33 Strategies of War, Art of Seduction)

The 50th Law [Curtis James Jackson]

Tipping Point:How Little Things Can Make a Difference and Outliers: The story of Succes [Malcolm Gladwell]

The Obstacle is the Way, Ego is the Enemy [Ryan Holiday] (stoicism)

[Tim Ferris] (actually haven't read any of his books, but seems to know a way to use social media, podcast, youtube)

Get an understanding to finance, economics, marketing, investing [Graham, Buffet], philosophy [Jordan Peterson]

I like to think us/you/business is about personal development, consciousness, observing recognizable patterns in human behavior and historical significance. It's an understanding of vast areas of subjects that connect and intertwine then returns back to the first book you’ve read (Start with Why) and learn what you've read past to present. Business is spectacular, so is golf.

To Add:

Irrationally Predictable:The Hidden Forces that Shape Our Decisions - [Dan Ariely] (marketing)

The Hard Things About Hard Things - [Ben Horowitz] (business management)

Black Privilege: Opportunity Comes to Those Who Create It - [Charlamagne Tha God] (motivation)

The Lean Startup: Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful Businesses - [Eric Ries]

Zero to One: Notes on Startups, How to Build the Future - [Peter Theil]

u/monkeyboy888 · 1 pointr/melbourne

The 48 minute abs of Power!

Just remember us little people when you stage your first coup...

u/octopus10 · 1 pointr/ChineseHistory

Yes! "Well-rounded" is a great way to put it. A leader who had a favorable ("favorable" is subjective, I know) balance between certain traits. Balance is key here.. Take a trait like ruthlessness for example:

Genghis Khan killed 40 million people in his campaigns across Eurasia, right? Massacring, torturing, executing, and enslaving the whole way.

Was all that necessary? I'm actually willing to admit the possibility that it was, as a matter of strategy. Chapter 15 (Law 15) of Robert Greene's book The 48 Laws of Power is called "Crush Your Enemies Totally" and discusses just this sort of thing. So I would not necessarily begrudge a leader taking a violent approach to securing their empire.

Now take, on the other hand, a leader like Timur aka. "Tamerlane", who was sort of Genghis' successor in a way. Tamerlane's death toll was only about half that of Genghis', but ~19 million deaths is still nothing to sneeze at. Timur's conquests were also run in the same sort of ruthless fashion as Genghis' (executing 100,000 captives in the 1398 Capture of Delhi, beheading 70,000 after the Isfahan revolt, etc).

Does this make Genghis Khan twice as ruthless as Timur? And if they happened to have racked up the same death toll, would that make them equally ruthless?

I believe the thing to consider is what else each leader brought to the table for their people and the world AND if, or to what degree those merits offset their ruthlessness. Again, this gets pretty subjective and philosophical (but I am asking for opinions, after all :-)).

So, for example:

One of Genghis Khan's main motivations for his campaigns (and I do think motivations behind actions are important) was to open up trade routes for the good of his people. In fact Genghis Khan is credited with bringing the Silk Road under one cohesive political environment, and this kind of environments may have had a positive impact on other civilizations as well who collaborated in trade using the same routes. Khan also replaced cronyism with meritocracy, which was a plus.

This was decidedly not the case for Tamerlane, who seems to have had much less noble motivations. By certain accounts "Unlike Genghis Khan, however, Timur conquered not to open trade routes and protect his flanks, but to loot and pillage." Besides being a military genius, positive light in Tamerlane's corner seems to be rather sparse.

Obviously this is a comparison between two historic leaders that I don't know if anyone would have as candidates for the very best leaders of all time but my point here is that there are certainly some solid metrics by which leaders can be praised or denigrated. Was there a boom in the economy when a leader rose to power? Was that a coincidence or because of some economic reform they enacted? Was there a dramatic fall in crime? Did their rise to power result in a fertile environment of innovation and literary/artistic/philosophical/scientific achievements? and so on. We can use historical data in context along with the same metrics that we could use to judge leaders today.

Thank you for the input.

u/Porkinscrash · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

Read, "The 48 Laws of Power". If you are a history buff and want insight on how to gain power, this book is for you! One of my personal favorites.

u/balancedben · 1 pointr/MGTOW

48 not 38. lol i need to read it. he's wrote other books that people rave about as well.

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u/s24569 · 0 pointsr/SocialEngineering

Here's a link to the The 48 laws of Power book on Amazon:

Hope that helps

u/jdrama83 · 0 pointsr/AskReddit

Robert Greene wrote The 48 Laws of Power, it's pretty close.

u/tragobp · -1 pointsr/cscareerquestions

I can't say that It changed my career as It's not that long yet but it gave me a good sense of what to expect from people and how to act in some situations for better result.

48 Laws of Power

u/MadroxKran · -5 pointsr/Christianity

Could I interest you in the 48 Laws of Power or the 33 Strategies of War? You can take advantage of people and have them love you for it. I wouldn't do this, because I'm a believer, but there's no reason not to if there's no such thing as good and evil or any higher purpose. If everything ends and humans are no more than stones rolling down a hill, then fuck it all, get yours.