Reddit reviews The Book of Job: When Bad Things Happened to a Good Person (Jewish Encounters Series)

You know that is totally fair

The Big Yikes is the Wikipedia page on the Sampson Option:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

The Martin van Creveld quote is in the page, but here it is for effect:
We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[32]

If say the European powers actively joined in an Arab war against Israel I could understand nuking European cities as part of self defense against a planned genocide, but it sounds like certain parts of the Israeli government see Europeans are enemies not by virtue of active arms but past persecution, which does not go on today and not being pro-Zionist enough in the present.

And as much as this may sour things, if the Sampson Option goes down, and the Europeans are nuked while technically neutral, the world will band together to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth. Not in vengeance, but simply for survival. Because despite this supposed quote for Moshe Dayan, mad dogs don't EVER get left alone, they get PUT DOWN, it's simple public safety.

An to be fair if the US somehow suddenly took down China or Russian second strike capacities and nuked either of those two countries while not being at war or directly threatened by them, I would denounce my American identity and declare it is time for the American to end. We are now the enemies of all humanity. Using a nuclear weapon on a populated area is genocide. If Genocide needs to happen, it is a control measure, that the people there are so dangerous they cannot be allowed to live. Genocide as vengeance, genocide as retribution, these are concepts that will either leave humanity dead in short order, or the ethnic groups that practice them dead in short order.

As for God being put on trial:
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/wiesel-yes-we-really-did-put-god-on-trial-1.5056

Orthodox violent hostility to Jewish Christians:
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/israel/2019/june/jewish-protesters-assault-messianic-believers-christians-some-were-cut-in-the-face

Another Article wherein rabbis denounce Messianic Jews as not real Jews:
https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/jewish-groups-decry-messianic-jewish-rabbis-prayer-pence-rally

Article of Jewish Atheism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism

One of the more gentle arguments on Jewish forgiveness, by a Jewish woman:
https://forward.com/opinion/163365/we-dont-do-forgiveness-well/

Oh and this lovely article from a Holocaust Survivor:
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/1.5134117

And let's not mince words with this one. Hating he Nazis that committed these horrible deeds is justified, even proper. Refusing to make a distinction between the movement that was ideologically responsible for the horror-show (Nazism) and the ethnicity of the perpetrators (Germans) is a gross miscarriage of justice, and then to hold the grudge not to that generation of Germans but to three generations down the line?

Shit that sounds like Blood Curse doesn't it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_curse
And further it open up hatred and unforgiveness directed to Jews by survivors of Communist atrocities, because Ms. Epstein, makes no distinction between Germans and Nazis, then neither do victims of Communism need to make a distinction between Communists and the ethnic identities of the Communists.

Now you might argue that for this to hold you need hold ALL of the ethnicities of the Communists involved, in which case a Ukrainian peasant survivor of the Holodomor might be morally required to hate Russians, Georgians other Ukrainians AND Jews, but that still doesn't do much to decrease hatred of Jews in the world.

This line of thinking directly plays into the hands of both Nazis and Neo-Nazis. Why bother to empathize or try and build bridges with Jewish people when they will never forgive you of your grandparents sins?

Worst of all the utter self conceit and lack of empathy. Has this woman never thought in her long life, if I were in their position, told what they were told would I have done any different? If my grandchildren were in a similar situation as these Germans, could I count on them to act any differently, and if they didn't would I need to hate them?

If I were a German woman born after the war, how would I feel to know people hated me because of what I am rather than what I personally did, or could even have been around to be even tangentially been a part of? But these are questions she does not ask.

Now I know it is tacky to quote scripture at a non believer, but even if I thought Jesus was nothing more than charismatic clinically insane schizophrenic, I would take his words in Mathew to heart:
And you say,

‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!"

Those are not words just for the hoity toyty of his day, it is a reminder to all of those who would claim righteousness not to get a big head about ourselves.

On a personal, as an Evangelical I was raised to hate Gay people. I always considered Transgender issues to be something else, namely an issue of the soul versus a sexual proclivity. I was told if the gay people were not stopped and suppressed an angry God would rain fire and brimstone down on our cities, destroying our civilization as thoroughly as he did Sodom and Gomorrah.

I never committed an act of violence against a gay person, but that is by chance. I loved in America in the 1990s not say Iraq in the 2010s or Germany in the late 1930s and 40s.

I had to come to terms with my views on homosexuality when I had to transition. And when I found out how badly I was lied to, I wept bitterly without tears and to some degree I still do. Maybe I could have known better earlier, I don't know.

But if I were a Muslim man in ISIS territory I would have thrown gay people off the top of buildings too, convinced this was the morally right and the will of God. That is why I refuse to hate them, no matter how angry I am at them. Because I know I have no right at all to point the finger and hold the grudge.

I'm not especially singling out Jewish people for this behavior, because I see in every group I have ever heard of. But here, because it is in this article, I need to call it out.

As for the thing about Holocaust Theology, I may need to backtrack on that, maybe not. I know the terms don't technically apply to Jewish terminology but or less the more clerical (rabbinical) response seems to have been far less misotheist than I thought. The Jewish laity maybe more.

My chief source on this IIRC is Harold Kushner's commentary on the Book of Job, which is one of the most soulful and moving things I have eve read.
https://www.amazon.com/Book-Job-Things-Happened-Encounters/dp/0805242929

Oh and if you wanna check it out, get the audio book from the library, Rabbi Kushner read it himself and his voice is sonorous. It's a treat.

In any case I would be utterly hypocritical to being up Holocaust Theology without mentioning the similar movement in mainline Protestantism called Death of God theology. And this impiety has been amply rewarded with the wasting death of mainline Protestantism. Just to show I'm not completely unself-aware.

I can probably find more, but I think these sources cover things as I understand them and if you want to start educating me on where I am mistaken, my ears and heart are as open as I can make them.