Reddit reviews The Butchering Art: Joseph Lister's Quest to Transform the Grisly World of Victorian Medicine

The Butchering Art by Lindsey Fitzharris covers this, and the rest of the messed up history of surgery from that era.

Thanks for sharing your take!

I also realize that the Earth is but a tiny part of the universe, and not separate from it, as goes with any part of Earth being part of the whole Earth and not separate from it, overall--I hope my phrasing makes sense. Love hearing your ideas on all of this--lots to ponder!

As for the conspiracies you mentioned, I will certainly be looking up that documentary and reading up on the others you mentioned! I've got passing familiarity with MKUltra but it'll be interesting to learn what I can.

I find history fascinating--my current book is The Butchering Art by Lindsey Fitzharris and it has been really interesting. Much of the information was gathered from letters of correspondence between surgeons in the U.K. and surrounding areas of the 19th century, and I'm often left thinking about how much information is forever lost to time, biased record keeping, and so on.

In any case, I'll definitely check out some stuff on false flag ops. If there are any particular books about these subjects you would recommend, let me know!