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u/YourFairyGodmother · 190 pointsr/atheism

Don't buy them a Dawkins book, as /u/Rugger01 suggests. Make it The Case Against The Case For Christ: A New Testament Scholar Refutes the Reverend Lee Strobel in which Robert Price eviscerates Strobel.

>Leading New Testament scholar Robert M. Price has taken umbrage at the cavalier manner in which Rev. Lee Strobel has misrepresented the field of Bible scholarship in his book The Case for Christ. Price exposes and refutes Strobel's arguments chapter-by-chapter. In doing so he has occasion to wipe out the entire field of Christian apologetics as summarized by Strobel. This book is a must-read for anyone bewildered by the various books published by Rev. Strobel.

u/roambeans · 7 pointsr/atheism

This might be a good follow up book:

The Case Against The Case For Christ: A New Testament Scholar Refutes the Reverend Lee Strobel by Robert Price

https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Christ-Testament-Reverend/dp/1578840058

u/arachnophilia · 6 pointsr/AcademicBiblical

> Dr. Robert M. Price's book The Case Against The Case for Christ.

is this a bit like watching aquatic ape theorists argue against creationism?

u/Zomunieo · 5 pointsr/atheism

It's been done in book form, by Robert M Price, no less.

https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Christ-Testament-Reverend/dp/1578840058

u/dembones01 · 5 pointsr/atheism
u/geophagus · 3 pointsr/atheism
u/0r1g1na1 · 3 pointsr/Christianity

Out of interest, have you read The Case Against The Case For Christ?

Quite a scathing comment in the Amazon comments (not that I pay much attention to that without reading the book myself):

>You see when Lee Strobel wrote his book, "The Case for Christ" it was a feel good book that was short on facts and long on fluff. It was easy to digest because there wasn't much there for your brain to do. It was rather a lot like watching a Saturday morning cartoon.


My interest is piqued enough to have quick look at both books though.

I've always felt as though the evidence for the biblical Jesus isn't sufficient for me, but I've always been on the look out for new information that makes me change my mind.

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Edit - I've been reading the book. Had to get to page 28 before any testable claim was made:

>Acts ends apparently unfinished-Paul is a central figure of the book, and he's under house arrest in Rome. With that the book abruptly halts. What happens to Paul? We don't find out from Acts, probably because the book
was written before Paul was put to death." Blomberg was getting more wound up as he went. "That means Acts cannot be dated any later than A.D. 62. Having established that, we can then move backward from there. Since Acts is the second of a two-part work, we know the first part-the gospel of Luke-must have been written earlier than that. And since Luke incorporates parts of the gospel of Mark, that means Mark is even earlier. "If you allow maybe a year for each of those, you end up with Mark written no later than about A.D. 60, maybe even the late 50s. If Jesus was put to death in A.D. 30 or 33, we're talking about a maximum gap of thirty years or so." He sat back in his chair with an air of triumph. "Historically speaking, especially compared with Alexander the Great," he said, "that's like a news flash!" Indeed, that was impressive, closing the gap between the events of Jesus' life and the writing of the gospels to the point where it was negligible by historical standards.

The author is declaring "case closed" on the timeline of the early bible based on the fact that the book of Acts remains unfinished? An assumption about why the book remained unfinished is followed by assumption after assumption. Scrolling through the rest of the book, the logic is just as weak throughout.

He is not looking at this from an evidence-based perspective, he is writing a story about a journey from unbelief to belief while skipping over the many leaps of faith it required for him to get there.

I wanted this to be a good book, but I partly agree with the quote in the Amazon review, this is a feel-good book written for Christians who are already convinced and are merely wanting some apologetics to go with it.

Just putting my thoughts out there.

u/MyDogFanny · 3 pointsr/atheism

Dr. Robert M. Price is arguably the greatest New Testament scholar of our time.

What I admire most about Dr. Price is that he encourages everyone to read and study and think for themselves and come up with their own conclusions. When there is very little evidence for a solid conclusion, he often says something like, "It seems to me that this is the case, but I could be wrong."

He is ignored by Christian New Testament scholars because he finds no evidence for miracles and no evidence to believe in the "Super Man" Jesus.

He is mostly ignored by secular New Testament scholars because he finds very little evidence for the historical man Jesus, and therefore doubts that the "Clark Kent" Jesus ever existed. Paraphrase: "There could have been an historical Jesus and I could be wrong, but I just don't think the evidence is there to support a definite conclusion."

Not too long ago the movie 'The Case for Christ' was released. This was based loosely on Lee Stroble's book "The Case for Christ". In 2010 in a response to Lee Strobles' book, Dr. Price published his book "The Case Against the Case for Christ."

This is an excellent read for anyone interested in the subject.

The Case Against the Case for Christ

>Leading New Testament scholar Robert M. Price has taken umbrage at the cavalier manner in which Rev. Lee Strobel has misrepresented the field of Bible scholarship in his book The Case for Christ. Price exposes and refutes Strobel's arguments chapter-by-chapter. In doing so he has occasion to wipe out the entire field of Christian apologetics as summarized by Strobel. This book is a must-read for anyone bewildered by the various books published by Rev. Strobel.

edit: spelling, got the link correct

u/Iswitt · 2 pointsr/atheism

You could try this book that is refuting this book. Although I haven't read either.

u/NewbombTurk · 2 pointsr/agnostic

Honestly, that's a truly awful book. Even by apologetics standards. Here is a good book that takes Strobel's points chapter by chapter. Strobel, like most apologists, is speaking to an audience of believers, attempting to give them some reason to think their faith is rational.

BTW, have an upvote to cancel out the person who downvoted. I might not agree with you, but it seems you posted that in good faith.

u/extispicy · 2 pointsr/atheism

I can suggest two books that might be what you are looking for.

Lee Strobel's Case for Christ investigates the Jesus claims from an "impartial" viewpoint (ie he only interviews apologetic sources). He uses as proof, for example, that the gospel writers are eye-witnesses which, if you are reading Ehrman, you know to be bunk. (Amazon actually has quite a long 'look inside' preview for this book)


Robert Price refutes Strobel's claims in "The Case Against the Case for Christ". I haven't read the book myself, but considering Price is one who denies much of the historicity of Jesus, I'm guessing he didn't pull any punches.

u/eyenot · 2 pointsr/atheism

> She's asked me to read "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. I told her I would.

Be sure to follow it up with "The Case Against the Case for Christ".

u/FeChaff · 2 pointsr/exchristian

Since you know about Richard Carrier I would assume you already have read some of the well known Anti-religionists like Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, Dennet, Stenger, etc. If you are talking about secular biblical scholarship and historical analysis there isn't anyone who keeps me interested as much as Carrier, but I haven't read much in that subject. Some others include Robert Price and Bart Erhman.

There are several good essay compilations by John Loftus which are more generally directed at Christianity. They include essays by Carrier and Robert Price and a number of other secular thinkers. The Christian Delusion I think is the first in that series. Hitchens's The Portable Atheist is another good collection which includes older writing aimed at all religion. Bertrand Russell is a great, too.

u/EmanonNoname · 1 pointr/TrueChristian

"Contemporary sources" meaning people of the time period.

A modern-day theologian who bases his work off of other peoples testimony is not as valuable in the historical sense as a historian of the time period recording as close to first-hand testimony as we've gotten.

To me at least.

It was nice chatting with you. Have a nice day.

PS: [The Case Against The Case For Christ.] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1578840058/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/175-9664009-9240945)

I'm hunting up a torrent of both books right now…

u/PuyallupCoug · 1 pointr/atheism

OP, in case you need it, there is a book that refutes the claims made in a case for faith. Here's the link

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1578840058/ref=redir_mdp_mobile


Please report back after you and your wife finish your respective books and give us an update! :)

u/President_Martini · 1 pointr/exchristian

Strobel's a joke. I read The Case For Christ when I was in a phase of desperately trying to keep my faith. Every point he brought up was terribly disappointing and when the people he interviewed brought some reason for believing, his challenges (if challenged them at all) were mediocre. He was never a staunch atheist as he claims. At most, he was probably someone indifferent to Christianity looking for a reason to believe.

I recently read Price's The Case Against The Case For Christ and it was hilarious and fun to read. I recommend it.

u/Sovem · 1 pointr/AskHistory

Your post was painful to read.

Painful because I used to be an arrogant, know-it-all Bible apologist like your friend, and it's embarrassing to remember; and painful because I've since had debates with people like me/your friend after learning the truth, and these debates always go in circles and are so unbelievably fruitless and frustrating.

Listen--you cannot change your friend's mind with facts or logic. You can't change anyone's mind with debate; people have to want to learn and be willing to challenge their own assumptions. If this guy is truly your friend, and you want to be able to hang out with him, it would be far better to just say "I don't want to argue about it" whenever he wants to debate, and just go back to doing friend-stuff.

That said, if you are genuinely curious about his claims, there are plenty of resources out there. It's kinda funny, but biblical literalists don't have "facts", they have talking points, and they all use the exact same ones, over and over. Talk origins is the greatest single repository of every fundamentalist claim I've ever seen, and it includes sources for each claim and rebuttal. It's quite impressive.

I've read The Case for Christ, and it's not that good. It's an exercise in logical fallacies. But if you do read it and find yourself scratching your head at some of the claims, Robert M Price wrote A Case Against the Case for Christ and picks it apart with ease. (Price's other books are pretty informative, too, if you're curious about biblical history without the apologist bias.)

I hope this helps; just remember, these links and facts are only going to make your friend dig his heels in deeper. If you want to maintain any kind of friendship with him, I highly recommend changing the subject and agreeing to disagree.

u/dadamax · 1 pointr/atheism
u/cpqarray · 1 pointr/atheism

Send him a copy of the "The Case Against the Case for Christ" by Robert Price. http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-Against-For-Christ/dp/1578840058

u/MetalSeagull · 1 pointr/atheism

Just so you know, there's this book: The Case Against the Case For Christ.

If you don't want to read it alone, try listening to Steve Shrives' take on it as you go.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8B722E1FA8681B70

u/cubist137 · 1 pointr/atheism

The Case for Christ? Book of apologetics written by Lee Strobel? Yeah, no. That tome has been refuted six ways from Sunday.

u/GalacticCow · 1 pointr/atheism

especially since another person already did that: http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-Against-For-Christ/dp/1578840058

And the person who did that was another Christian, no less.

u/Feyle · 1 pointr/atheism

Instead of finding that video why not read The Case Against the Case for Christ?

u/[deleted] · 1 pointr/DebateAChristian

>Maybe someone else can recommend a book with an opposing view so you can study for yourself?

Happily. Here's 'The Case against the Case for Christ' and if you honestly used 'The Case for Christ' as one of the main reasons why you've come to your beliefs then you're sadly mistaken on so many different parts.

http://www.bidstrup.com/apologetics.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Christ-Testament-Reverend/dp/1578840058

That should clear things up for you.

u/Elron_de_Sade · 1 pointr/atheism

My thoughts are read it or watch the DVD, but do so as a joint project with family.
Next up: http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-Against-For-Christ/dp/1578840058 and be sure to make both family projects.

u/exeverythingguy · 1 pointr/atheism

I think The Case Against the Case for Christ might be a good one :)

u/Jeremazing · 1 pointr/atheism

while we are at it

u/sc0ttt · 1 pointr/atheism

This is actually an argument against a specific book's claims... but it'll cover most everything you're likely to see... and it's a lot more readable than similar books.

http://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Christ-Testament-Reverend/dp/1578840058

u/bdwilson1000 · 0 pointsr/ReasonableFaith

Yep..I read it years ago and found it quite full of holes. He basically presents only the apologist side of the case, completely ignoring major lines of evidence and the substantive arguments against Christian claims.

If you are interested in getting a broader perspective on his arguments, I recommend you read some of the responses to his book. Here is a pretty thorough review of the book from a skeptical perspective.

and there an entire book-length refutation here.

Remember, the truth has nothing to fear from scrutiny. Try reading both sides with an open mind and see if his case stands up.