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u/dadtaxi · 7 pointsr/DebateReligion

Ok then. Its very simple. if you look here Rowe thinks it is probably false.

So . . . . . argue amongst yourself now. I'm done here

u/hammiesink · 5 pointsr/DebateReligion

Yes, I try to remain pretty neutral. If you get into religious philosophy, you'll be amazed at how the philosophers seem to be really interested in the truth, and not just supporting presupposed dogma. Atheists write books defending cosmological arguments, Christians write papers attacking Christianity, there are atheists that are dualists of the mind, and Christians that are materialists of the mind.

The dispassionate and rational evaluation that is supposed to be happening on sites like richarddawkins.net is to be found instead in academic philosophy. Honestly, when I look at Dawkins' site now, I can't tell the difference between it and these wackaloons.

u/Ibrey · 3 pointsr/DebateReligion

> I may not fully understand this argument, however it sounds like an argument from ignorance. You'll eventually arrive at a point where the contingent item's origin can't be easily explaned, therefore god must be the appropriate answer.

No, the argument is not an inference to the best explanation. Advocates of the argument like Leibniz explicitly make the point that even in an infinite universe where every contingent being is explained by another contingent being, there would need to be a necessary being to explain the whole.

> Also, does the argument stop at god? What created god?

Yes, the argument stops at the existence of a necessary being which contains the explanation for its existence within itself. By definition, such a being does not stand in need of explanation the way a contingent one does.

> Is there something more to this?

Yes, the "second stage" of a cosmological argument further analyses the concept of the being whose existence has been deduced to show that it has the attributes associated with God such as simplicity, immutability, omnipotence, will, etc.

Read William L. Rowe's The Cosmological Argument for an atheist philosopher's case that if the principle of sufficient reason is true, the argument from contingency successfully proves a necessary being's existence and possession of at least some of the divine attributes.

u/classicalecon · 0 pointsr/DebateReligion

See here. In that argument, if PSR is accepted, it's extremely difficult to avoid the conclusion.

As I said, the atheist philosopher of religion Williame Rowe made a similar claim in his book on the cosmological argument.