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u/zossima · 3 pointsr/politics

You are arguing semantics when many, many people agree this is a thing that exists.

Here is an article about it in Erdogan's Turkey:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/03/12/the-deep-state

Here's a book about it:

https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Constitution-Shadow-Government/dp/0143109936

And a great article from The Atlantic about it:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/02/why-its-dangerous-to-talk-about-a-deep-state/517221/

Maybe it doesn't exist in the US, but it's ignorant to just stick your head in the sand about it because you don't like the concept.

u/sturmhauke · 3 pointsr/SelfAwarewolves

The thing that really galls me about the "deep state" concept is that the right wing took the original concept and subverted it. The term was coined by Mike Lofgren, and he said that people like the Kochs were the real power behind the GOP, and that the Democrats had become ineffective at a national scale. But then conservative pundits took the phrase and turned it around on the left.

https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Constitution-Shadow-Government/dp/0143109936

u/Ian56 · 2 pointsr/WikiLeaks

Read and learn

The Deep State: The Fall of the Constitution and the Rise of a Shadow Government by Former Congressional Staffer Mike Lofgren
https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Mike-Lofgren/dp/0143109936

u/treerat · 2 pointsr/politics

From Amazon:

>Mike Lofgren was the first to use the term Deep State, in an essay and exclusive interview on Moyers and Company, to refer to a web of entrenched interests in the US government and beyond (most notably Wall Street and Silicon Valley, which controls access to our every click and swipe) that dictate America’s defense decisions, trade policies and priorities with little regard for the actual interests or desires of the American people.

More simply put and updated, the "deep state" has now become all those career government employees working in the intel community to assist the FBI in uncovering the high crimes and misdemeanors of the Trump regime.

u/Tyrion_Baelish_Varys · 1 pointr/politics

> You do realize that Donald Trump now has access to all of these data, correct?

The "deep state" & IC would beg to differ.

Need to know, compartmentalization, etc.

Also, data & its analytics don't mean anything when you don't know what the fuck it actually it or its capabilities. The cronies around him can only imagine the tip of the iceberg, and even then it's highly distorted. The IC doesn't hand over their troves just because there's a "peaceful transition of power".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States

https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Constitution-Shadow-Government/dp/0143109936

Take it with a grain of salt though. The reality of the infrastructure is more nuanced than the conspiracy theory.

u/crystalhour · 1 pointr/conspiracy

>Why would the same cabal that is espousing homosexuality and transgender Etc. In the media want to preserve the masculine ones!?

I have been internally debating this for a long time. The deep state is completely money motivated, so it's essentially politically neutral. Mike Lofgren thinks it is neoconservative by alignment. The MSM has a liberal bent, but is pretty much owned by the deep state at this point. How do we disentangle this apparent contradiction? I think we can trace it to CIA director William Casey, who said "We’ll Know Our Disinformation Program Is Complete When Everything the American Public Believes Is False." If we take his statement literally, then the answer is obvious. You assume a certain cabal is in power because you've been convinced of the falsehood they've sold. This is especially true for intelligence contractors, since they can be misinformed from within, and they're financially motivated to be deceived.

There's no real rhyme or reason for the political factions at fault. All men and women are ultimately wicked, and money lust manifests it.

>Ever think that maybe higher testosterone leads to a longer life?

No, because women live longer than men.

u/GlobalPowerElite · -17 pointsr/China

Deep state doesn’t exist? An unelected, unaccountable, secret society government making decisions behind the scenes with a rotating roster of cronies doesn’t exist?
Please read. https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Constitution-Shadow-Government/dp/0143109936/