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u/CowardiceNSandwiches ยท 1 pointr/conspiracy

>Even orthodox historians no longer hold to the 6 million figure.

I would be very much interested to see some citation supporting this.

>Auschwitz was initially said to be 4 million, and was officially reduced to "1 - 1.5" million in 1989.

That estimate of 4,000,000 was Soviet propaganda, and only accepted by a minority of historians, even in the immediate post-war era.

>Oh wait, where did 2.9 million people go?

The 4,000,000 figure was never included in accepted estimates of overall deaths. Its refutation has been seized upon by deniers as evidence of some shady coverup, when in reality it was never part of the approximation of 6,000,000 dead. As such, there weren't "2.9 million people" to remove from the estimates.


Raul Hilberg (whom you mentioned) arrived at his number in 1961.

Another Holocaust scholar, Gerald Reitlinger published an estimate of 800,000-900,000 Jews murdered in Auschwitz in 1968.

Franciszek Piper, historian for the Auschwitz State Museum, himself in the 1980s estimated deaths at Auschwitz at just under 1,100,000. He arrived at this figure by examining records on the number of Jews deported to the camp, then subtracting out those who were transferred elsewhere, released, liberated, etc.

To be clear, Auschwitz was only the worst of the death camps, but hardly the only place (or method) where Jews and other hated ethnic groups were murdered en masse.

Some of the larger actual death camps were:

  • Majdanek (78,000 of whom 61,000 were Jews);
  • Chelmno (320,000);
  • Treblinka (762,000);
  • Sobibor (167,000), and
  • Belzec (434,000-500,000)

    That's between 2,761,000 and 3,327,000 in just those camps alone plus Auschwitz. Those figures don't count all the many thousands of smaller camps (not death camps per se, but many Jews were murdered through abuse, overwork and starvation nonetheless), actions by Einsatzgruppen (estimated at 1.5M), etc.