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> I am a borderline exmuslim who is doubting.
Op be safe. What is the penalty for leaving Islam (Apostasy)? [Hint - it is not a firm handshake and a goodbye wishing you health and long life].
> Would you believe in Islam if there were no scientific errors in the Quran?
> In Islam there are no scientific errors and all have basically been worked around as misinterpretations.
First, no I still would not believe that Islam represented credible and supportable trueness concerning the existence of the God YHWH/Allah, nor the claims of Allah's interventions/revelations.
Why?
For the same reason you (and I) [probably] do not accept the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and His Noodly Appendages just because "The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" is shown to be scientifically accurate; or of the Most Holy of Holy's, The Scared Narratives of Harry Potter, are shown to be completely accurate in the science presented.
Secondly, there are scientific errors within the Qur'an, and even though these errors have been apologized to death, a critical assessment of these apologetics... in accordance with the claimed revelation from Allah in The Heavenly Qur'an:
"Produce your proof, if you should be truthful" (Surat Al-Baqarah 2:111) to me; just as Islam requires that the claims of Judaism and Christianity have to be proved, then the same reasoning requires that the claims of Islam must be proved as well. After all, "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason" (Surat Al-'Anfāl 8:22).
shows that the errors are actually errors and/or non-credible post-hoc reinterpretation of vague and non-precise ayat/ayah. To wit, an example and commentary:
Now here is an actual example of that would be considered scientific
foreknowledge in the Qur'an, if supportable - a candidate for an actual prophetic
miracle.
Al-Mu'minun 23:14 Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and
We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump,
bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into
another creation. So blessed is Allah, the best of creators.
So the bones came before the covering flash. Interesting. And not
supported by contemporary medical knowledge.
Without going into the scientific miracle of where the sperm are
produced (i.e., The Qur'an states sperm is made/stored in the small of
the back near the kidneys - and not the testicles), as I do not care to
argue the mental gymnastics required to apologize this "Truth" of the
Qur'an, the embryonic development of the bone first followed by flesh is
completely falsified. Again, in order to spare myself the crapfest of
apologetics to justify this "Prophecy" I will ask the question - Did
this information concerning embryonic growth already exist prior to the
claimed revelation via the Book of the Mother, via the messenger Angel
Gabriel (Jibra'il), via some form of supernatural to natural
communication to the Prophet Muhammad, via spoken voice to various
followers of the Prophet, from various followers spoken to scribes
years/decades after the death of Muhammad?
Why look at that, Aristotle, in the 4th century BCE described embryonic
development (Aristotle, De Generatione Animalium, Book II,
739b20-739b30, as per Jonathan Barnes \(ed.\), The Complete Works of
Aristotle, \(Princeton, 1985\), Vol 1, p.
1148.),
and his treatise also contains the same erroneous idea that the embryo
developed from a formless mass.
Damn, when the Prophet plagiarizes already "known" information, he still
got it wrong by plagiarizing that which was incorrect.
The post-hoc interpretation of Qur'anic ayat/verses using highly
selective imaginative interpretations of the meaning of the various
words to claim support for a scientific miracle represents highly flawed
apologetics.
It is interesting that the claim of miracle of the prophecies of
"scientific miracles" or "scientific foreknowledge" in the Qur'an are
all post hoc interpretations to their discovery by mere mortal humans.
It would be more convincing if the scientific knowledge was identifiable
as usable knowledge prior to human knowledge based development or
confirmation of this knowledge - rather than a post hoc interpretation
of a verse/narrative such that this knowledge is only, somehow, found
after it already becomes known.
Look at these claimed Qur'an miracles and the date that there were
recognized and the claims made - the overwhelming majority were made
after science laid the foundation for interpretation. Rephrased - All of
the claims of scientific miracles are made in hindsight (post hoc) -
all are made following the advancement of knowledge from other sources
and the verbiage within the Qur'an is then interpreted to show that this
knowledge was, somehow, there all along. As a source of scientific
knowledge, then, at best, the Qur'an has little worth.
If you wish to demonstrate that there is value in the scientific
knowledge claimed to be within the Qur'an, please present a scientific
postulation/hypothesis/theory derived from a verse, or from verses, from
the Qur'an that was developed prior to the development of this
knowledge from other sources. Or make prediction(s) of future scientific
knowledge based upon the Qur'an and develop a method of inquiry based
on this claimed scientific knowledge and gathering observable and
measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning and
experimentation and show that this predicted scientific knowledge to be
true to a high level of reliability and confidence. I am willing to wait
a lifetime for a beforehand/foresight version of scientific knowledge
from the Qur'an to be demonstrated in any meaningful way. Otherwise,
post hoc interpretations holds no credibility of the Qur'an as a source
of scientific claims/foreknowledge.
Finally, let us not overlook the numerous scientific errors, with or
without claims of prophecy/scientific foreknowledge, that are present in
the Qur'an:
1
Astronomy
1.1 Geocentricism
1.2 Setting and Rising Place of the Sun
1.3 Stars are Missiles Shot at Devils
1.4 Moon is Further from the Earth than the Stars
1.5 Moon Emits Light
1.6 Moon was Split in Two
1.7 Seven Planets in the Universe
1.8 Seven Heavens
1.9 Earth Created in Six Days
1.10 Earth Created before Stars
1.11 Sun is a Flat Disk
1.12 Sky is a Tent/Dome
1.13 Sky Guards the Earth
1.14 Sky is Made of Solid Material
1.15 Sky can Fall Down on People
1.16 Ignorance of the North and South Poles
2 Biology
2.1 Evolution
2.1.1 Human Creation from Clay
2.1.2 First Humans: Adam and Eve
2.1.3 Humans Created in Paradise and then Brought to Earth
2.2 Embryology
2.2.1 Sperm Originates Between the Backbone and Ribs
2.2.2 Embryo is Formed from Male and Female Fluids
2.2.3 No Mention of Female Ovum
2.2.4 Humans Created from a Clot of Blood
2.2.5 Only Allah Knows the Gender of a Fetus
2.3 All Organisms are Created in Pairs
2.4 Womb has Three Layers
2.5 Bones are Formed before Flesh
2.6 Source and Purity of Milk
3 Geology and Meteorology
3.1 The Earth is Flat
3.1.1 Facing Toward Mecca
3.1.2 Earth is Spread Out and Flat
3.1.3 Earth is Like a Couch
3.1.4 Earth is Like a Carpet
3.1.5 Earth is a Wide Plain
3.1.6 Earth is Level
3.2 Earth has Seven Atmospheric Layers
3.3 The Earth does not Rotate
3.4 Permanent Barrier between Fresh and Salt Water
3.5 Mountains Prevent Earthquakes
3.6 Mountains Cast into the Earth
3.7 Chest Contracts with Altitude
3.8 Earthquakes are a Punishment from God
3.9 Hurricanes and Blizzards are a Punishment from God
3.10 Rainwater is Pure
3.11 No Evaporation in Water Cycle
3.12 Hail Comes from Mountains in the Sky
3.13 Thunder is an Angel
4 Zoology
4.1 Bees Eat Fruit
4.2 Ants Recognize Humans and Speak with Each Other
4.3 Horses Created as Transportation
4.4 Bird Flight is a Miracle
4.5 Classification of Creatures
4.6 Only Eight Types of Cattle
4.7 Birth Defects and Imperfections
4.8 Poisonous Sea Life is Edible
4.9 Birds Fight Elephants
4.10 Sinful Animals
5 History
5.1 Wall of Iron between Two Mountains
5.2 Christians Worship Mary as Part of the Trinity
5.3 Noah's Ark holds Every Species
5.4 Pharaoh or Pharaohs
5.5 Jews call Ezra the Son of God
5.6 Supernatural Destruction of Cities
5.7 Humans can Sleep for Three Hundred Years
5.8 Humans can Live for a Thousand Years
5.9 Non-Existent Mosque in Jerusalem
6 Sociology
6.1 Fasting and Prayer Requirements at the Poles
6.2 People are Protected in Mecca
6.3 Non-Muslims are Deaf, Dumb, and Blind
6.4 All Animals Live in Communities
6.5 Requirement to Learn in Arabic
7 Myths and Legendary Tales
7.1 Humans Transformed into Apes
7.2 Tribe Trapped Behind a Wall
7.3 Supernatural Food
7.4 A Stick Transforms into a Serpent
7.5 Solomon's Army of Genies and Birds
7.6 Jonah Performs Repentance inside a Fish
7.7 Muhammad Flies on a Winged Horse to Heaven
7.8 Body Parts Speak
7.9 The Ocean Split in Half
7.10 Solomon can Control the Wind
7.11 A Dead Man Testified against his Killer
7.12 Animals Speak to Humans
7.13 Mountains and Birds can Sing Songs
8 Others
8.1 Mathematical Error in Hereditary Laws
8.2 People use the Forehead to Lie
8.3 Space Flight is Impossible
The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, a book of Native American languages, Native American Sign Language and the Encyclopedia of Native American Tribes on an Android tablet with a solar charger.
I would aim for the East Coast of North America where I would attempt to bring all of the tribes together as a weak federal Pastafarian Republic. I would unify the languages and write a strong, peaceful constitution with equal rights and literacy for all, to keep the tribes from fighting amongst themselves and would predict the arrival of whitey in 3,800 moons and draw pictures of their boats. It would be ingrained in each and every Native American that whitey's are savages and are only coming there to steal their gold, women and maize.
Once it was established, we would expand into South America and the Caribbean islands, Hispaniola first! I would instruct them to build a large, white cross on the coast of Hispaniola where Columbus will land. Once he lands, they will declare Columbus the Messiah and crucify him on the spot. That should get rid of the Europeans long enough for the Americas to be sovereign.
*Edit for explanation.
Some advice on the indoctrination stuff:
counter it with a copy of the Qur'an (in english) a copy of the Torah and just for kicks a copy of this http://www.amazon.com/The-Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568 .
When asked why, just reply that you're very happy to teach her about religions in equal parts. It will be her decision to choose which of them if any she wants to follow.
The Birth room:
No. In the US might be different, but over here in Australia its up to the mother who is in attendance. Oh and I would suggest that NO ONE gets to visit except the father until you're past the baby blues. (approx 4 days) This is what We did for both our children, and I think that quiet bonding and "coming to grips" time is really important Also it takes away any unneeded stress brought about by the sudden hormone influx you're going to get smashed with.
This is not just off the cuff advice, this is exactly how I have behaved and acted with our family. They wont like it, but they'll get over it... little babies are great for disarming cranky grandparents.
oh and Re: the breastfeeding.
F!#K her. She gets zero say in this (and most the rest). you do what you feel is right, incidentally if for whatever reason you can not breastfeed (it happens), don't feel she "won" and you failed, just own whatever decision you make.
She is a momentary blip in the life of your child, you're her mother and she'll always see you as #1 in her life.
It got bad reviews because it's supposedly a pretty crappy spin-off book from the original FSM book, which has multiple, positive reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568/ref=pd_sim_b_1
Human Rights Tribunal gets it wrong again.
Atheism is not a creed, it is the absence of a creed. Calling athiesm a creed is like calling "Off" a TV channel.
People should not be distributing religious materials in classrooms. It's a stupid idea and it should be stopped because:
The whole thing is foolish. The minute Islamic groups start taking the school up on this offer there is going to be a shit storm.
The problem is that Mr. Choinard chose a book that sounds reasonable. This FSM would have gotten the point across more clearly.
The Gospel CLEARLY states that global temperatures have risen as the global pirate population decreased. Therefore, climate change is anthropogenic but more economic than environmental.
R'Amen.
The one true word: https://smile.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568/
I have a friend who is a biology teacher and ordained Pastafarian. He plans on teaching it as an alternative to evolution.
That's hilarious but I think it's actually this one
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0812976568/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Wc9Wub1K72CTY
I prob need to read this.
Current read: https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568
repay the favor by giving them this next time:
https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568
the website http://www.venganza.org/
the bible http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1299369194&sr=8-2
Yes.
A few other books you might want to add which fit nicely with the Bible (in no particular order):
Yea, messenger is Bobby Henderson and book is The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. As it is known, FSM is quite a tricky god, he loves deceiving humans and causing confusion for his own amusement. That's where all other gods come from, it's Him playing with us.
https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568
Welcome!
are they also going to require Koran lessons as well? what about the Vedas? will there be daily readings from the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
It sounds like you want to learn more about the great, the wise, the merciful, FSM!
The FSM watches over us with is meaty eyes and every so often, when we are hungry, he touches us with his noodly tentacles.
I'd like to offer you a book that explains more about the FSM. Unfortunately this book isn't free, but you can order it from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568
> I have heard that Marks Gospel comes from Peters Testimony, so Mark is technically an account from St. Peter.
I have heard that the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was dictated to Bobby Henderson directly from the spirit of Edward Teach, in communion with the Messianic Manicotti, and so is technically an account from Blackbeard Himself.
You probably think this is ridiculous (and I agree) -- but keep in mind we know Edward Teach/Blackbeard and Bobby Henderson are/were real people. We have no such assurance with Peter or Mark.
Read the Gospel and the Loose Canon. Conversion ceremonies can be fun, and you can create your own. They should, of course, include pasta, pirate regalia, and grog.
Our holiday's include fridays, Holiday- a vague celebration around december- and ramendan, where we eat ramen in remembrance of all the college students who survive on it.
Keep the 8 I Really Rather You Didn'tsin mind, and have fun!
I guess you haven't read the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
This is so blasphemous to his Noodlyness.
It's almost like you've never read The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster..
We Have one already.
The author of this article has clearly done no research on The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The works of His Noodliness are well documented in A Letter from Saint Bobby Henderson to the Kansas State Board of Education. The miracles described in this sacred Epistle include influencing the results of radiometric dating, the increase of global warming, and the decline of piracy. We have pictorial documentation of the moment of creation, created by Bobby after receiving a vision of His Noodliness creating a mountain, some trees, and a midget. More can be found in The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Finally, there are millions of Pastafarians willing to become martyrs for His Noodliness, but we're just so darned likeable that no one has wanted to martyr us.
Definetely Gospel of the flying spaghetti monster
They exist, actually :p
https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180375352&sr=8-1
Holy book
The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292348682&sr=8-1
Holy cow. A fellow Provo resident who happens to be a redditor AND an atheist? You've made my night.
If you well-meaning neighbor doesn't lay off, you could always dress up in full pirate regalia, visit her doorstep, and very politely offer her a copy of your own beloved gospel.
Wikipedia article on the subject
Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
So yes, there is a text, but really the entire FSM or Pastafarian movement is just to point out that if one religion is made special, then any other must be equally as special even if people deem it ridiculous. Also, strainers are stylish head wear.
Skeptics rejoice in his noodley appendage!
What about this piece of fiction?
Someone hasn't been studying their gospel.
The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the de facto holy text of FSMism.
http://www.amazon.ca/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1320472121&sr=1-1
Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
And if you want to more obscure but real religions:
And if you want to be very snarky:
Worshiping an omnipotent, omnipresent flying monster made entirely of spaghetti.
Geez, it's almost as if you've never read The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
> what book do atheist kill for?
Why The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster of course! Though his Noodlyness would really rather you didn't.
The word of the Prophet Bobby. It's more fun than the Bible to read.
http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180375352&sr=8-1
This one came via divine delivery using Amazon, link below.
http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1368502954&sr=1-1&keywords=flying+spaghetti+monster
That's exactly how I feel about religion as well.
Here are some links for you :)
http://www.venganza.org/
http://www.loose-canon.info/Loose-Canon-1st-Ed.pdf
http://www.amazon.com/The-Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568
There is a hell for people who don't believe Hogwarts is real ??!?
Let me google that for you. BTW - it's a hoot.
Reading some of your comments I have a question for you:
If you don't accept all of the bible (e.g. don't follow all of the rules in Leviticus etc etc) why not just ignore the rest as well? Doesn't it seem a little dishonest to select only the bits of a religion that you like but then claim to follow the religion? Surely you should follow it all to the letter?
http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180375352&sr=8-1
Ramen.
Someone should swear on this
> So, couldn't an Atheist convert to Giant Spaghettism and write a Speghetti inspired book detailing God and his/her creations?
The Pastafarians actually did.
For the Win
That's fine. Me & my Bible will be heading down their to enlighten those poor knowledge starved young minds.
I have the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster in my bookcase at home, as well as The Book of Bob. Both are great jumping off bases for a new religion.
why not start up the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster?!
>not every GL wants to be in the business of approving books
Without standards, you end up with this and comic books on your altar.
Congratulations! You have been made a tool.
This is why Florida made their changes. And good for them.
I'd like to recommend this book, but I'm too lazy to log into both Reddit AND Shelfari.
>The FSM was shot down earlier in another thread because he didn't have a book written about him
there is book. it is called: The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180375352&sr=8-1
I have read it and you're full of shit.
The Dead Sea Scrolls are the earliest known surviving manuscript collection of texts found in multiple caves near the Dead Sea. The name actually contributes to the common misconception that the scrolls were named after it's location discovery.
If one carefully examines the text(actual digital copies can be examined here), which are claimed to be of great historical, religious and linguistic significance, the context further contributes to the ideologies of the CFSP, see the Gospel of the FSM.
In summary, it's just a bunch of scrolls of multiple authors who write about a fictional novel about the death of the Sea.
Here's where you can buy it
The paperback is cheaper, but I definitely like the quality of the hardcover.
Here is the pdf version
It's free, but I always preferred a physical copy.
The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
I can tell from your comments: You are a close minded die hard atheist who demonizes religion, and you blindly hate the very idea of religion based on what you have heard from others.
Isn't that the something as someone who is dedicated to a church and demonizes the "heathen Atheists" based on what others have told them?
Just think about it. You claim all this bad things will come from Pastafarianism but just from your questions I can tell you have never even read a page of The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Reply if you wish but I have no desire to continue a conversation with a close minded individual like you currently are being, so I will no longer be replying to any of your comments. You have a good life and I honestly do hope you find inner peace.
The FSM bible is available on line. http://www.amazon.com/The-Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568