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u/TheHairyManrilla · 4 pointsr/worldnews

>who will demographically over take them and change the nation


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u/steamwhistler · 2 pointsr/worldpolitics

[Continued from Part 1]

Chapter 3: Immigration & trans people

>At the end of the day muslims will pick a side and they will undoubtedly pick muslim. Their ideology is not compatible with the west.

So, not surprisingly, I disagree with everything you said about Muslims. It's too big of a subject for me to fact-check all your statements, but respectfully, you are misinformed on this issue. I'd encourage you to check out this book which has some really surprising research and statistics, such as the fact that men who become radicalized to terror are overwhelmingly from secular households. Statistically speaking, the more religious the family you were raised in is, the less likely you are to become a terrorist.

>Thier parents made a choice coming here illegally.

It is perfectly legal to seek asylum in the US. The reason the WH gets off on calling it "illegal" is because when the refugees do try to follow the rules, they get turned away, or are unable to enter for some other reason. With no options left, they cross a river or something when the government has clearly said, "please only use this road over here," and then blocked that road. The result? "Hey! You're crossing illegally!" So, just to be clear, this isn't a "law" that's being broken here, we're just talking about people not crossing in exactly the way the government asks.

Now, as for this

>My point is that I'm sure many of these kids didnt have am issue we being split up form their parents.

The American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Medical Association, and the Society for Research in Child Development, and others, disagree with you. Here's a report by several experts talking about the effect this could have on children.

>We will only be allowing women/trans people to die beucase they wont be suited for the work. Furthermore we will be putting the life of our men in danger too.

So, what you kind of just said here is that women shouldn't be in the military either. If what you're saying is, yes they can be, but they should have different jobs from men, then I think you're underestimating the military's interest, for both women and trans men, in making sure each solider is fit for their work. When women go to basic, they have to be able to do the same things as the men. Why would it be any different for men who used to be women? And as for having "identity issues," every soldier also has to be found psychologically competent, regardless of who they are, so you're fretting about checks and balances that already exist.

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Chapter 4: Political Correctness

>You and I will differ of the definition of that term most likely.

Yup.

>I dont want someone who panders to other becuase they dont want to look bad

Ok, but why? Serious question. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're a decent person. Why not support politicians who speak their minds, defend themselves when questioned, but who are not being total dicks to people in the first place? (By the way, want another lie? Trump later denied what you saw happen in that clip.) You know what other politicians are really blunt, and take a lot of criticism, and refuse to back down and apologize? Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Being honest and brave with unpopular opinions is possible without being an asshole.

Here is my position on political correctness: it's a term made up to politicize something that used to be a bipartisan value: it was called, regular politeness. Common decency. Good manners.

And you know what, man? Mocking the disabled isn't brave. Insulting Mexicans and Muslims isn't brave. Calling reporters things like "racist" and "stupid" and "rude" isn't brave. It's cowardly. He's a bully, man. Not a hero.

>You have said your choices about economics and decency. I disagree. What is a society that cant sustain its self? The USSR is an example. Nazi germany is an example.

Ok...what?? It sounds like you're saying the USSR and Nazi Germany failed because they focused too much on decency instead of economics? But that can't be what you're saying.

>In capitalism there will always be a disparity of wealth. There are laws will narrow that gap.

Well, so far all the GOP has done is widen that gap.

And yes, capitalism entails wealth disparity, but I don't believe there's another country in the world that has as much of a disparity as the US does. There's no mainstream or even niche voice in US politics advocating for full-on Communism where there's no disparity at all, but it doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. The US can be a better place to live for everyone by making some changes that would put it in line with other developed, wealthy countries.

>Your quote about hitler. My rebuttle is. Dont throw the baby out with the bath water.

I'm familiar with the expression, but I don't understand how it applies here. I was talking about things not having the proper moral weight. But I think we can move past that now, because I was basically trying to say to you, if we agree on the same set of truths, then what you're saying to me is preposterous. But obviously, we are working from a polarized set of beliefs, so the Hitler example I made doesn't really apply.

>You made an allusion to space. Are you familiar with Werner von Braun? If not look him up. Should be not tall about doing to the moon anymore? Should we not be proud of it.

Of course we should be proud of it. And I am grateful for progress, which is why I fight to keep it! Look, just because America has done good things, and just because a former Nazi contributed to the space program, doesn't muddy the waters on morality that's already well-understood. Yes, people are complicated. You can be both a nazi and a brilliant scientist. Trump probably has good qualities about him too. Nazis wanted everyone to have cars!

Ok, but so what? One thing doesn't cancel out the other. They just exist side by side as a testament to how complex human beings are.

>There is good and bad everywhere and sometimes it occupies the same place, it's our job to separate it properly.

Which is what I've been patiently trying to do throughout this response. I hope you get something out of it. I know I threw a lot of links at you, but I'd like to especially highlight the NYT piece on Trump's tax fraud, which is a pretty huge deal: it's settled the question of whether Trump's a criminal, but it doesn't sound like you're aware of it. And if you don't want to read the whole thing, especially after reading my ~3500 word reply to you, just google the keywords and you'll find dozens of summaries of that piece from other news orgs.

u/Etular · 1 pointr/singapore

As a European also myself, I'm waiting to see how long it would take before another European was to call you out on your nonsense, but it seems that's not going to happen.

For those who want a bit of context, the views held by /u/bjarkebjarke represent the nationalist segment of Europeans, in a continent where literal Neo-Nazi groups like Jobbik and Golden Dawn (before they got arrested) - whose active role is to march in groups and physically attack minority individual citizens who are simply living their daily life - are prevalent.

To give context, PEGIDA is one of these groups, stemming from a part of Germany known for its Neo-Nazi population, and found containing a large number of Neo-Nazis and football hooligans. This explains why the counter-demonstrators outnumbered the demonstrators - because no rationally-minded person wants violent groups legally condoned to attack people on the streets and create division.

This situation in Europe is exactly why Singapore, with its lack of violent mobs roaming the streets and stupid people preaching hate being given a voice, is a better country at the moment than European countries to reside in.

As for the anti-Muslim claims, almost all of which are false and/or misleading, have a vast amount of reputable academic literature - such as this - opposing such nonsense claims.