Reddit reviews The Physics of Immortality: Modern Cosmology, God and the Resurrection of the Dead

Sounds a little like de Chardin's Omega Point. I think Frank Tipler used that as his thesis in the Physics of Immortality.

In many ways Frank Tipler's The Physics of Immortality is a bit of a daffy book, but it gives a good overview of the topic of your comment.

In a nutshell, you could have a subjectively infinite lifespan if you could perform an infinite amount of data processing before the heat death/big crunch/other universe-ending condition.

If. The whole rest of Tipler's book is precisely how to engineer just such a deus-ex-machina, but it's based on some assumptions since disproved. Can't win 'em all. STILL a good read, for its discussions of the idea of finite mental states and so on.

As for the OP's question re: information exchange, one could say that the real limit is reached when the mental states of the persons making the exchange have been completely modified, which is a quantifiable number. See also Bekenstein bound.

Or, suppose we add all the mental states of the parties to the communication. That would mean a new, larger Bekenstein bound, no longer containable in a human brain, though we might still perceive ourselves as having human brains in human bodies, as a convenience.

As a way of thinking about this, consider your computer. I assume it's not your first, and that it's much faster than your first one, with far more memory and so on. In fact it may be 100 times faster and so on... but you still use a keyboard and mouse and a visual display that's not much bigger than the old one.

Tipler is a Catholic. He wrote The Physics of Immortality a weird book about how cosmology together with chaos theory could make the Catholic theology become physically true.

However, that book has been thoroughly debunked by cosmologists, the cosmological model he uses has been proved wrong by recent discoveries.

also relevant revelation 6:15, isaiah 2:19


the atmospheric cataclysms will be so dangerous that humanity will colonize underground. this is why at Christ's return they call out for the mountains to fall on them (because they're under them)


if this is an area of interest for you I respect this dude and hope to purchase his book after I graduate. this business is also probably no unworthy your attention, at least compared to whatever's on TV

OP, you might be interested in The Physics of Immortality. I read a little bit about it in a 2004 essay, excerpted below:

>The final moments before universal annihilation would release an infinite amount of energy, Tipler reasoned, and that could drive an infinite amount of computation, which would produce an infinite number of thoughts—a subjective eternity. Everyone who ever existed would be "resurrected" in an orgy of virtual reality, which would correspond pretty neatly to what religious believers have in mind when they talk about heaven. Thus, while the physical cosmos would come to an abrupt end in the Big Crunch, the mental cosmos would go on forever.

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Thanks for it. I think he primarily attacks people like Tipler who tries to pass off a certain kind of metaphysics into Physics.https://www.amazon.com/Physics-Immortality-Modern-Cosmology-Resurrection/dp/0385467990

This is actually rather interesting if we think consciousness is the product of our physical constitution. Given chance and an infinite amount of time, couldn't the same atoms that constitute my body and create my consciousness eventually reassemble in exactly the same way? You might be interested in Tipler's The Physics of Immortality, but the reviews for that book weren't great.