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27 Reddit comments about The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War:

u/TheUndiscoveredMeme · 18 pointsr/The_Donald

Lincoln was one of the worst presidents. He started a needless war costing the lives of hundreds of thousands. He imprisoned journalists who were against the war. He is largely responsible for the increase in the power of the federal government at the expense of the states. He started the income tax and the IRS. His greatness is one of the biggest historical lies ever told: https://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463/

sic semper tyrannis

u/Washbag · 6 pointsr/Libertarian

> We also fought a war (see the first point) to ensure the freedom of those restricted by this edict. The war turned-out to be just, though the suspension of habeus corpus was abominable.

My eyes bled reading this. I recommend you read some non-revisionist history of the Civil War, because it most certainly was not fought over slavery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl_-U1YA978

http://www.amazon.com/The-Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377375879&sr=8-1&keywords=the+real+lincoln

u/callmebaiken · 3 pointsr/conspiracy
u/seagoatpltn · 2 pointsr/WTF

How is this "WTF"? (Excluding the questionable statistical semantics.) Habeas corpus anyone? http://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290893644&sr=8-1

u/jedderbob · 2 pointsr/gtaonline

You are so wrong about all of this. I suggest you educated yourself.

The South had every right to secede, it's a right granted to all states by the constitution. The North fired the first shots, needlessly starting a war that killed more North Americans than any other in history.

The North was occupying Fort Sumter, a Confederate fortress. The South asked them to leave and then they got shot.

Also, to say that they seceded for slavery is blindly stupid. They seceded for a multitude of reasons, slavery being one of the smaller ones. The only people in Antebellum South who owned slaves were the equivalent to the modern 1%'ers.

The vast majority of southerners were fighting for self determination on a wide variety of issues. Not just for slavery.

Read the following: "The Real Lincoln"

"The Un-Civil War, Shattering Historical Myths"

Educate yourself before you start calling people racist, elitists or traitorous. Your right that the flag represents things deeper than you can currently comprehend. I've got a reading list a lot longer than that for ya buddy, that's just the start.

u/tgjj123 · 1 pointr/Libertarian

The Law - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1936594315/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1936594315

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Defending the Undefendable - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933550171/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1933550171

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The Real Lincoln - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761526463/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0761526463

The Road to Serfdom - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226320553/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0226320553

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Atlas Shrugged - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0452011876/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0452011876

The Myth of the Rational Voter - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0691138737/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thmariwi-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=0691138737

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There are of course more books, but this should last you a few years!

u/[deleted] · 1 pointr/TheBluePill

I'll try and re-find my references.

Do keep in mind that putting this stuff out there usually results in people going SLAVERY SLAVERY SLAVERY BLAH BLAH BLAH NOT LISTENING WE WERE THE GOOD GUYS YOU WERE THE BAD GUYS NOT LISTENING IF YOU ACTUALLY POINT OUT FACTS YOU MUST THINK SLAVERY WAS GOOD BLAH

I'd start here

http://www.amazon.com/The-Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377710334&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Real+Lincoln

Note: I usually piss off the other side by mentioning that the end game for the CSA was to enslave free poor and middle class whites.

u/zip99 · 1 pointr/reddit.com

That has been done. If you are really interested in citations then check the Bibliography of this book: http://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261460764&sr=8-1

u/Cataclysm · 1 pointr/The_Donald

He was absolutely the worst president in history. Read and learn.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0761526463/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_-tu8yb8G50N4R

u/Nheim · 1 pointr/politics

Right moron, play the leftist dribble "you weren't a slave". You weren't either darling. Nor was anyone "black" today. Plenty of whites were slaves too, no white today can claim they experienced it as well. Shocker!

But sure, since I spent years on the subject and wrote numerous college papers on it, I'll chalk it off as a mistake since you're saying so. Fuck the professors and historians who've put in more hours than you ever will to look at reconstruction and post reconstruction.

I never decided what was better for them, you ignorant twit. The civil war was a disgusting act by a fascist warmongering president that created, AND HISTORICALLY DOCUMENTED AND VERIFIED, a post war shit hole in the south and created severe hatred, racism and violence for decadents that followed for decades upon decades. Why was every other country able to get rid of it without a civil war? Hmm?

A war wasn't started because they thought slavery was so immoral and evil kiddo. It was to keep the union together. If it was about "slavery" only, then why did Lincoln promise the south they could retain slavery if they stayed in the Union? Why did Lincoln want to deport them to South America? Read his own writings and his own inaugural address. I'm sure you get all hot thinking about Lincoln suspending habeous corpus too. Oh you don't? You don't even know about that? Oh..ok.

You're an emotional, dimwitted buffoon who believes that you can ignore facts and experts because of "feelings" on a subject.

http://www.san.beck.org/LincolnCivilWar.html

http://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457996582&sr=8-1&keywords=the+real+lincoln

Here, I'll get you started. Have fun not reading it or any other historian and expert that had documented 1) the civil war errors and 2) Reconstruction failures

u/outtanutmeds · 1 pointr/conspiracy

The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463

u/reddelicious77 · 1 pointr/pics

According to several scholars, Lincoln was not the romanticized, liberty loving hero that history has tried to paint him... He sounded like trash, really.

http://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b

u/caferrell · 1 pointr/EndlessWar

If you would like to learn more about the real history of the Civil War, read Thomas di Lorenzo's The Real Lincoln

u/water4free · 1 pointr/GetMotivated

I didn't write it, Thomas DiLorenzo did. Do you presume to have a higher level of historical knowledge regarding Lincoln than he? Have you read the book?

u/prnandhomeless · 1 pointr/Libertarian

From what I can tell, seems like it's because of "The Real Lincoln" by Thomas DiLorenzo, an Austrian economist and fellow of the von Mises institute.

He's a libertarian that makes claims about Lincoln being tyrannical and paints him as a "paragon of wickedness, a man secretly intent on destroying states' rights and building a massive federal government."

The persecution complex of some libertarians plus DiLorenzo's call of destroying rights (even though the South was destroying the most fundamental right according to most libertarians - the right to one's self), makes it easy.

It's almost like when some liberals first read/hear things by Howard Zinn.

u/ancapistanos · 1 pointr/politics

>Lew Rockwell is one mendacious, historically selective piece of intellectual garbage.

Please, if you are going to insult someone, at least have the common decency to retort with objective, factual pieces of evidence. Lew Rockwell, and those who write on his website, have sources for their claims, thus they can back their claims up.
Also, there have been many books written about this topic such as this and this.

u/triadwarfare · 1 pointr/rickandmorty

This is the reason why Abradolf Lincler's confused...

Lincler's bad side: Abraham Lincoln's true bad side <-this is a book.

Abradolf's good side: Adolf Hitler - Just like what Morty said, at least, he cared about Germany and the Holocaust is what he thinks is right on getting revenge on the people who made them lose WW1, his mother, and killed Jesus. Just think of Hitler not as a tyrant but Doing the wrong things for the right reasons

Rick's experiment failed because of this. Too many shades of grey on each character.

u/GiveMe_TreeFiddy · 1 pointr/politics

Seriously, read this. You'll thank me. Living a lie based on information shoved down your throat by those who wish to control you is no life to live.

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463

u/xXMadewellXx · 0 pointsr/history

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463

Enjoyed my professor talking about this during my first year in college, it was a real eye opener.

u/omnipedia · 0 pointsr/pics

The man who took in those coming on boats, yearning to be free, and enslaved them into the military to conquer the rest of the nation, so that we may all be enslaved to the point where children are brought up with the myth that he "ended slavery".... and a poet.

Really, lincoln was america's stalin. That people revere him, shows how profoundly ignorant americans are.

Think I'm wrong? Check the citations in the definitive work:
http://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463

u/devnull5475 · -1 pointsr/USHistory

IMO, there are several old sets that are better than McPerson's books.

  • Bruce Catton
  • Douglas Southall Freeman
  • Shelby Foote

    Also, if you're not afraid to raise the librarian's (or other schoolmarms') eyebrows, try The Real Lincoln. It's imperfect (like most books), but full of interesting, thought-provoking ideas.
u/Ocarina_Autem_Tempus · -1 pointsr/BlackPeopleTwitter

Explain the several bills that would have ended slavery w/o causing civil war that Lincoln himself voted down during his time as senator.

I mean, there's elementary sugar-coating, then there's like, you know, facts.

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472790699&sr=8-1&keywords=the+real+lincoln

u/LogicalEmpiricist · -5 pointsr/pics

Not defending vandalism, but to be fair, Lincoln was a tyrant who caused the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans.

>Most Americans consider Abraham Lincoln to be the greatest president in history. His legend as the Great Emancipator has grown to mythic proportions as hundreds of books, a national holiday, and a monument in Washington, D.C., extol his heroism and martyrdom. But what if most everything you knew about Lincoln were false? What if, instead of an American hero who sought to free the slaves, Lincoln were in fact a calculating politician who waged the bloodiest war in american history in order to build an empire that rivaled Great Britain's? In The Real Lincoln, author Thomas J. DiLorenzo uncovers a side of Lincoln not told in many history books and overshadowed by the immense Lincoln legend.

I know you Americans love your mythical heroes, so let the downvotes commence...