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u/singlefinger · 5 pointsr/zen

Ever read Joshu or Huangbo?

I only suggest those because I'm reading Joshu again right now, and Huangbo is a BAD MOTHERFUCKER.

https://www.amazon.com/Zen-Teaching-Huang-Po-Transmission/dp/0802150926

https://www.amazon.com/Recorded-Sayings-Zen-Master-Joshu/dp/157062870X

u/ewk · 4 pointsr/zen

It depends on your mood:

https://www.reddit.com/r/zensangha/wiki/getstarted

I think generally find Green's translation of Zhaozhou, https://www.amazon.com/Recorded-Sayings-Zen-Master-Joshu/dp/157062870X/ to be one of the best introductions to Zen.

The problem with shopping brick and mortar is that limited selections tend to pander to pop culture... and Buddhist evangelists have nearly eliminated Zen from pop culture in the West.

u/3DimenZ · 3 pointsr/chan

Hmm yes, the comparison you made is between a collection of discourses from Master Huangbo and a collection of Koans and stories. I can recommend really any more discourse oriented Chan teachings ranging from Master Foyan's "Instant Zen" to the recorded sayings of Master Linji. The Recorded sayings of Master Linji also include some interactions and stories, but also some clear discourses from the Master... the same with the Recorded sayings of Master Zhaozhou, which is mostly interactions and some discourses. Another one that you might find interesting is "Ch’an Master Hui Hai- Zen Teaching of Instantaneous Awakening" or The Letters of Chan Master Dahui Pujue.... but really, reading those discourses and not doing the practice won't be very helpful... hence the 'clear discourses' are rather rare since you should penetrate it yourself directly and not have it chewed out by those old grandmothers

u/NegativeGPA · 2 pointsr/zen

Huangbo as an intro is LAME

Joshu is full of such lines as "Your mother is ugly", "The girl in pigtails is present", and "Get out of my fucking sunlight."

Don't believe me??

Ask the dishes! Read the sayings of Joshu to find out!

u/rockytimber · 2 pointsr/zen

I like the zen cases, and the "sayings of literature" for the zen characters where its available. There are the Sayings of Joshu, Sayings of Layman Pang, and Sayings of Dongshan.

Some translations are so horrible, and the preface/introduction parts so slanted it is hard to take, but if you have any immunity at all to religious rhetoric, you should be able to cope with texts like

https://www.amazon.com/Sayings-Layman-Pang-Classic-China/dp/1590306309

and

https://www.amazon.com/Recorded-Sayings-Zen-Master-Joshu/dp/157062870X/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=157062870X&pd_rd_r=ZD18X8D9RYN83KG1972P&pd_rd_w=xOAri&pd_rd_wg=U5T69&psc=1&refRID=ZD18X8D9RYN83KG1972P

and

https://www.amazon.com/Just-This-Dongshan-Practice-Suchness/dp/1611802288/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1519943814&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=Sayings+of++Dongshan

People get very particular, find their favorite editions and translations, go very deep into it, but for me, years ago, starting out, even this simple little book

https://www.amazon.com/Zen-Flesh-Bones-Collection-Writings/dp/B001Q745TS/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1519943904&sr=1-2&keywords=Paul+Reps+flesh+bones

or

https://www.amazon.com/Way-Zen-Alan-W-Watts/dp/0375705104/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1519943976&sr=1-1&keywords=alan+watts+the+way+of+zen

were real gifts that I could and did read over and over. The main thing is to pick up the scent and be able to avoid frauds that take you down a dead end or a different path than what the zen stories were pointing to.

If you don't mind u/ewk, just look at the texts he quotes in his posts: https://np.reddit.com/user/ewk/submitted/

there is a treasure right there, for free.

u/Escape-Ape · 1 pointr/askphilosophy

One of the best texts is the sayings of Joshu:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Recorded-Sayings-Master-Joshu/dp/157062870X

I have some of the sayings in a lecture here:

http://ericgerlach.com/asianphilosophy6/

u/zaddar1 · 1 pointr/zen


 

 


look, joshu spent is life working on zen, who are you with your ignorant jumped up opinions and suburban life!

 

wasting your time here reinforcing your idiocies

 

you need to read his life

 

you can't see the sense of what I am saying can you ! ? :o(