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u/Dinkelbert · 20 pointsr/Games

The guy you answered to seems to disregard the newest events in historical research.

For an insightful read about the causes of WWI, I can only recommend Clark's book The Sleepwalkers.

I bet my post will classify me as a "wehraboo", as some others seem to call everyone who does not put the sole blame on Germany for WWI breaking out.

u/Prince_Kropotkin · 7 pointsr/neoliberal

> It's not going to happen

Famous last words

> He's not going to nuke anyone over anything or any reason

https://www.amazon.com/Sleepwalkers-How-Europe-Went-1914/dp/0061146668

you need to read this book too

u/Hankhank1 · 6 pointsr/history

Barbara Tuchman's prose is superb in The Guns of August, but her scholarship has been eclipsed in the past sixty years.

As to the outbreak and background to the war, you should consider reading Christopher Clark's The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914. It is the best one volume account out there on the market. Brilliant, profound book.

http://www.amazon.com/Sleepwalkers-How-Europe-Went-1914/dp/0061146668

I would recommend the work of Peter Hart and William Philpott on the fighting of the war itself. Both British writers, yes, and so their accounts are Anglo-centric, but they do a really good job of both close in study of the man in the trench and of the higher strategic picture.

In particular I recommend these works by Hart:
Fire and Movement: The British Expeditionary Force and the Campaign of 1914
http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Movement-British-Expeditionary-Campaign/dp/0199989273/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1462799265&sr=1-7&keywords=Peter+Hart

The Great War: A Combat History of the First World War

And this by Philpott:
War of Attrition: Fighting the First World War

http://www.amazon.com/War-Attrition-Fighting-First-World/dp/1468310992

These authors are what could be called revisionist historians, as they don't by into the old "Lions led by donkeys" myth that was so promulgated in the first seventy or so years of Great War historiography, nor do they think that a handful of British poets accurately describe the experience of a hundred million men.

If you're interested in more specific campaigns, like the Eastern Front, the Italian Front, Gallipoli and the Ottoman War, etc etc, I can give you some books to check out as well if you're interested.

u/Randy_Newman1502 · 3 pointsr/badeconomics

>The Great War (week-by-week history of WWI)

This is an awesome project that I have also been following. I love Indy Neidell.

It inspired me to go out and read this book which turned out to be one of the best books I have read this year.

Highly recommended if you are interested in the intricacies and the historical context of the July 1914 crisis. It really goes through the detailed histories and motivations of the full cast of characters from Serbian politicians, the Black hand to French diplomats, etc.

For example, Maurice Paléologue, French ambassador to Russia:

>Paléologue had a horror of the kind of detailed dispatches that were the bread and butter of workaday diplomacy, preferring to shape his impressions into lively scenes invigorated by dialogues in which catchy phrases replaced the long and often ambiguous verbal circumlocutions that were the day-to-day traffic of diplomats working in Russia...In order to achieve this he composed the account of his meeting before he had even left the embassy to see the Russian sovereign.

>De Robien and his colleagues got busy encoding the detailed narrative of a conversation that had never taken place. Amid all the faux-reportage, the count remembered one highly characteristic Paléologian phrase: ‘At this point, the interview reached a crucial turning point and the Emperor offered me a cigarette.’

It really is a fantastic book full of the type of details of diplomatic/political machinations that I was simply unaware of except in broad strokes (like how diplomats often planted stories in the press and how that turned into a complex game of signalling, etc.) Some of the character profiles, like that of the German Kaiser, are also hilarious. I had no idea how insufferable he was and how embarrassing his government found him.

Edit: Since fans of the Great War will have something of a fetish for Conrad von Hötzendorf, I must say that the book covers him and the politics around him in great detail.

Good to see someone following the Great War on YouTube. All of you should go watch it.

u/litttleowl · 2 pointsr/CasualConversation

That does! Thank you:) I think it is too! I know most people realy only focus on the Nazi part of it all, but there’s so much to German history! (Like the Barbaric Tribes).


World Wars are super interesting! Have tou ever read All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque? There’s “sequel” to that book called The Road Back. It looks at what happens to a (German) soldier after World War I ended. That’s supposed to be an accurate representation of soldier’s sentiments at the time. Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger is a (German) soldier’s experience during WWI. Holocaust by Bullets, Ordinary Men, Sleepwalkers, Europe’s Last Summer, and A Woman In Berlin are some pretty incredible books about these wars. Don’t know of you’ve heard of them or have read them, but thought I’d made the suggestion! Movie wise I’d say Generation War if you haven’t see it yet:) The Darkest Hour movie was great if you haven’t seen that! I’m planning to watch Babylon Berlin soon. Don’t know if you were looking for suggestions but I thought I’d make some!

u/Zee-Utterman · 2 pointsr/history

I loved this one

https://www.amazon.de/Sleepwalkers-How-Europe-Went-1914/dp/0061146668

but I have a favour for Clark.

u/paul_thomas84 · 2 pointsr/history

If you are interested in a guide to the outbreak of WW1, check out Christopher Clark's 'The Sleepwalkers'.

Rather than 'blaming' a side it analyses the series of events and argues that Europe 'Sleepwalked' into WW1 rather than a good guy, bad guy narrative (not suggesting that anyone here has presented such a narrative).

https://www.amazon.com/Sleepwalkers-How-Europe-Went-1914/dp/0061146668/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485700853&sr=8-1&keywords=sleepwalkers

u/Hematophagian · 1 pointr/todayilearned

Probably even better book for this:

https://amzn.com/0061146668

u/obasioli · 1 pointr/history

The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914 https://www.amazon.com/dp/0061146668/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_B8hqyb1X3M25H

u/empleadoEstatalBot · 1 pointr/notArgentina
	


	


	


> # Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing To Fight A War For Their Country
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> [Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing To Fight A War For Their Country](http://brilliantmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/fight-for-Europe.png)
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> _Map created by reddit user Spartharios_The map above shows the percentage of residents in various European countries who are willing to fight and go to war for their country.
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> Full results below:
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> From high to low, these are the percentages by country:
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> - 74% – Finland
> - 73% – Turkey
> - 62% – Ukraine
> - 59% – Russia
> - 58% – Kosovo
> - 55% – Bosnia and Herzegovina
> - 55% – Sweden
> - 54% – Greece
> - 47% – Poland
> - 46% – Serbia
> - 41% – Latvia
> - 39% – Switzerland
> - 38% – Ireland
> - 38% – Macedonia
> - 38% – Romania
> - 37% – Denmark
> - 29% – France
> - 28% – Portugal
> - 27% – United Kingdom
> - 26% – Iceland
> - 25% – Bulgaria
> - 23% – Czech Republic
> - 21% – Austria
> - 21% – Spain
> - 20% – Italy
> - 19% – Belgium
> - 18% – Germany
> - 15% – The Netherlands
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> The results are from a 2015 WIN/Gallup International global survey. The sample size and methodology was as follows:
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> > A total of 62,398 persons were interviewed globally. In each country a representative sample of around 1000 men and women was interviewed either face to face (30 countries; n=32258), via telephone (12 countries; n=9784) or online (22 countries; n=20356). Details are attached. The field work was conducted during September 2014 – December 2014. The margin of error for the survey is between 2.14 and 4.45 +3-5% at 95% confidence level.
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> Europe is the continent with the fewest people willing to fight a war for their country. Globally, an average of 61% of respondents in 64 countries said they would. Morocco (94%), Fiji (94%), Pakistan (89%), Vietnam (89%) and Bangladesh (86%) had the highest percentage willing to fight.
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> The country with the fewest people willing to go to war was Japan, with just 11% of respondents saying they would fight.
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> Since World War Two, Europe has been relatively peaceful with major exceptions of the Yugoslav Wars in the 1990s and various political suppressions during the Cold War. However, the 19th century was also a relatively peaceful time for Europe that ended with the start of World War I.
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> For more on European wars and conflict have a look at the following books:
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> - War in European History
> - The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914
> - Postwar: A History of Europe Since 1945
> - Savage Continent: Europe in the Aftermath of World War II
> - Europe: A History
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u/EurasianTroutFiesta · 1 pointr/pics

I think blaming a single nation is a fool's errand. It was a world war with global causes.

The investigation into the assassination of the archduke found that the leader of the conspiracy behind the murder was the head of the Serbian intelligence force, who was an ardent pan-Serbian nationalist and irredentist (and was also behind the assassination of the Serbian king years earlier). To give you an idea how fucked things were, this shithead used backchannels to instruct border stations to ignore orders from their nominal superiors, so even if the civilian government hadn't been too slow to send an order to close the border in anticipation of fuckery in Croatia, Princep et al still would have gotten through.

Meanwhile, the Serbian civilian government had actually tried to warn multiple nations, but hadn't been able to make themselves understood, and didn't dare straight-up admit they weren't sure they could control their own country. They had a tiger by the dick and knew it.

So basically a country that was economically working toward becoming a regional power yet was nonetheless coming apart at the seams found its surrounded by not one but three moribund empires run by nationalistic and irredentist goobers. It was all but guaranteed to turn into a shitstorm sooner or later. The archduke's death was just the first sufficiently large spark, but others would have come along. The specifics would have significantly altered the course of history, but not by avoiding a huge war entirely.

Edit: the specifics about the Serbian conspiracy and diplomatic failures came from this book.

u/OnePrarieOutpost · 1 pointr/battlefield_one

I wish I could point you in a successful direction but many books focus on one specific target. Try not to spend money on them - get stuff from your local library. You might try something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Sleepwalkers-How-Europe-Went-1914/dp/0061146668/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1480087531&sr=1-8&keywords=history+of+wwi+european+government for a get your feet wet and then you can see if you are interested enough to keep going.

u/RedWildPony · 1 pointr/TheBlacklistForum

The German economy is at the beginning of a recession. It's going to end badly soon and it's time to think about the future ...

Germany is in a big crisis! Flooding Germany with criminal ISIS fighters and the Climate Change Religion are turning people into hysterical extremists ...

Bloom of German Culture ✠ Preußens Gloria ✠

Prussia is always made bad and portrayed as evil in mainstream media.

But the Prussian constitution was the most modern and even transgender (hermaphrodits) could freely choose their gender !!!

The German Empire was the most modern and successful country and as always Russia, France, England and the US were jealous! 😉

Historians have long admitted that the German Empire was not solely responsible for the disaster of World War I ...

Sir Christopher Clark - The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914

https://www.amazon.com/Sleepwalkers-How-Europe-Went-1914/dp/0061146668/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=Christopher+Clark&qid=1569425271&s=gateway&sr=8-3

u/A2PAK7 · 1 pointr/booksuggestions
u/Dinaridox · 1 pointr/croatia

Za one koji žele više o ovome znati pročitajte ove knjige, toplo preporučujem. Da, mi svi na Balkanu smo bili sitni pioni u igri velikih.

https://www.amazon.com/Sleepwalkers-How-Europe-Went-1914/dp/0061146668

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_and_Hope?wprov=sfti1

u/olddoc · 1 pointr/worldnews

> examples of world-changing events that many thought might happen

The books aren't filled with examples of things that didn't happen, they contain examples of things that many thought might happen. For example, this great book is the history of what every European nation thought might happen in 1914. Austria-Hungary thought the Russians wouldn't care about Serbia. Germany thought the UK wouldn't get involved if they declared on France, and the British thought they had made themselves clear when they told the Germans they would probably get involved.

u/comput3rteam · 0 pointsr/worldnews

> and U.K. but I have read much about their past promises concerning other nations

France made promises to Russia in the early 1900s, and Britian made promises to France then too. They were super bad ideas, and neither of them should have done shit when Russia started the first world war over austro-hungary responding aggressively to subvert and overt Serbian Nationalist aggression in the Baltics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Serbia

Highly recommend this book:

https://www.amazon.ca/Sleepwalkers-How-Europe-Went-1914/dp/0061146668/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543507079&sr=8-1&keywords=the+sleepwalkers