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u/tron423 · 101 pointsr/CFB

There was a whole chapter about them specifically under Kiffin's tenure in The System. It was... eye-opening.

u/MosiasH · 13 pointsr/exmormon

Anecdotal estimate on my part, I worked for the football stadium in 2004-2006 and I overheard one of the higher ups walking a guy through all the revenue streams. I seem to recall it was in the $4M-$5M range per game. So with 6 home games that's about $25M-$35M a season. BYU Basketball is probably 20% of that. TV deals and sponsorships are probably worth another $10M-$30M. So I could see the total revenue for school sports at around $75M. I could be way off and my data is 10 years old so it's probably over $100M. There is also money that comes from boosters etc because of the team, which is probably one of the main sources for the school.

Conference affiliation would be worth double that for the cougars at least. All that being said Jeff Benedict writes about this very topic in his book: The System and Scandal of Big Time College Football. The thing is, most programs run in the red. It's a pipe dream that too many try to live.

u/Mr_Wendal · 4 pointsr/CFB

This is discussed in to GREAT detail in "The System". The book was released last year right before my trip to Ohio State. It is a must read for any CFB fan. So many great stories covering many programs, coaches, players, and stories. It goes in to great depth on recruiting players and coaches, cheating, training, traveling, AD's - all aspects of the game. Over 300 taped interviews if I remember went in to that book.

There is a couple chapters throughout the book on Leach's move from TTU to WSU including the James debacle.

u/jusjerm · 4 pointsr/CFB

Meat Market


The System

Are cool reads on the subject

u/grimm22 · 3 pointsr/nfl

> Why are we being matched up against a glorified high school? CFB doesn't make sense to me either.

Because the larger schools pay smaller programs to play them for easy wins/big point spreads. Its shady as fuck because College Football is shady as fuck.

Schools have recruit programs where they essentially whore out Co-Eds to get students to commit, will do anything they can to cover up rape/sexual assault cases, and other awful shit. I recommend reading The System.

u/nemoran · 3 pointsr/CFB

Well I'll preface this by saying that 1) I don't have the exact figures (I doubt any people not involved with the NCAA do...), and 2) the term "student athletes" encompasses all manner of athletes from cross country runners to rowers to football players. If you sub-divide it out by sport affiliation, it probably skews different, and in that regard you'd probably see football and basketball players tend to be arrested more often than ordinary students. (At least if you're talking about the top-tier programs, which are typically attached to top-tier universities.) There are some stats to this end in Jeff Benedict's "The System," which /u/RobertNeyland's mentioned.

As for overall arrest rates, though, a report by the U.S. Dept. of Education states that 37,901, 37,299, 37,942 arrests occurred on 4-year college campuses in 2007, 2008, and 2009, respectively. Some issues I'm wondering: 1) I think those only count arrests made on college campuses (e.g. not at an off-campus tailgate or something), 2) I don't know the total number of college students at 4-year schools in the U.S. (though maybe this list is what we need).

Maybe someone with more time can track down arrest rates for all athletes, and we can cross-check rates against general student body rates.

u/Shambolicdefending · 2 pointsr/CFB

Not based on an individual team but well worth the read.

u/CarmeLos1stRing · 2 pointsr/nfl
u/PunkaTess · 1 pointr/news

I hear you. I remember reading this article when it first came out. It hurt my soul. I've known about a lot of corruption in the NCAA. My friend worked for the UT band for several years, and I have friends that work for various NFL teams. They've all told me real stories of various players being protected. I hate it. I LOVE college football. Just LOVE it. I obsess over it. I'm an Ohio State alum, and I spend my whole weekend watching games during the season. But the NCAA is so corrupt... I hate it. I do have trouble reconciling it at times. I keep hoping that it's going to get cleaned up, but I just don't know. I am happy that Ohio State has learned from their past mistakes, and are disciplining our players firmly. That's the best I can hope for. If they weren't, then I wouldn't be rooting for them so much. Urban Meyers did not do that at Florida. I was really afraid of how he'd handle players actions at Ohio State. He's changed. He's stepped up and he's holding them accountable. I'm happy about that. Have you read [The System] ( I want to, but I'm afraid I'll never be able to enjoy college football anymore. Sigh.

u/grizzfan · 1 pointr/CFB
  • "The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football." Best book on big time college football I've ever read. Goes inside/behind the lines, and gives you different angles and perspectives on scandals. There's four chapters dedicated to the story of Mike Leach ranging from TTU to WSU. One about how Nick Saban got to Bama, and others about sexual assault, paper classes, improper benefits, and all the other politics and behind the scenes damage control stuff we never see. It's also euphoric, because it gives the inside story of players' or coaches' experiences in big moments we all know of.

  • "Missoula, Rape and the Justice System in a College Town." The scope is college football at the University of Montana. This can be a difficult read, especially if you or anyone you care about has had an experience with rape or sexual assault (graphic and chilling), but it is really good, and is a harsh reality check that most don't really get from sports-prioritized media on the topic (Victim perspective and stories).

  • On the more X's and O's side, there is "Blood, Sweat, and Chalk." Ignore the wildcat chapter though. The history of that chapter is extremely weak and inaccurate.